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On today's episode of What's Wrong with the Cub Now, I decided that I would lengthen the right front axle so the front tire would follow the furrow. Not too hard a job, it's been out before so was only lightly stuck. However, this led me to look into the sloppy steering box... which wasn't a nearly as easy to fix as I thought it would be. It was greasy and nasty, and despite that everything was pretty stuck. But, a can of brake cleaner and a new cotter pin later the little fella steers like a new one. Took it on a test run to plow up and disk a new watermelon patch, and that worked out nicely as well. No photos, was too busy trying beat the much-needed rain!

Evening all, A couple on months ago I ran across a deal and decided to buy something that I really didn’t need, but it was too good of a price to pass up. It was a real nice 1980 Ford 4600. Real nice condition, looked well maintained, but I knew the clutch was going out. Or something was wrong with the clutch, you could step on the brakes and stop the tractor with out killing g the engine. I thought about it and made the deal that I was comfortable with. Fast forward 3 months, a mechanic friend had some shop space so it went over to him. He got it split yesterday. Here is what he said. Well I got it all apart today and here’s what I found: Appears someone was into it previously. I kinda suspected something due to a lot of missing bolts and wrong bolts in different locations. But it looks as if they put the clutch plate in backwards and the service manual shows 4 different clutches that are used on this tractor and the clutch I took out doesn’t appear to look like any of the 4 options? I’ll have to call New Holland and verify that we get the right clutch for it. So someone that didn’t know what they were doing nearly ruined a really nice tractor and I’m sure made the previous owner get rid of it for a discounted price. I’m still good on my end since there doesn’t appear to be any damage that can’t be fixed, but as the title said, some people’s child just shouldn’t be allowed to have tools. picture of tractor as I purchased it.

At least it was all spent wisely and only on necessities.

I will play devils advocate and say if you never do anything you can’t mess anything up either! I’ve made plenty of mistakes fixing over the years. Never forgot one of them. Looks like you got a nice tractor for a good price that you won’t have to worry about a clutch going out.

We do get attached to our pets. Seems they can always tell when we need cheering up or we do not feel good. Have buried several dogs here thru the years. Have markers for most of them. The last one we took a nice flat Fock from creek here on farm to tombstone company in town. They engraved the dogs name and year and did paw prints in the corner. Just finished building this cross for some people that lost their dog. Already had 2 of these for previous dogs and wanted a match. Sent me a picture to go by and just the width and height measurements. Rusty picture is what they sent and second picture is what I made. Told them I could not scroll the same size material as what they had (1/2 inch). I used 1/4 inch. They are pleased.

Yup, they sure remember what community and religion is all about. To think our culture used to be that way. Sad.

Its my neighbors turn to have church today, right across the road, we have always wondered especially during winter when all the animals are locked up where do they keep all those horses? And it sure looked cold this morning, some of the younger ones have the open buggies, about zero this morning, Also the clothes are the brightest white and black colors, And tonight after dark the younger ones will return for the sing along, and later in the night you will hear the gravel crunching, Singing is loud enough we can hear it sometimes,

Forgot to say that I'm overall still really happy with this purchase. The tach say 5xx hours, but I don't know if it has been replaced. I'd say sub 3000 hours is probably accurate. The 3 pt and drawbar have rarely or never been used. PTO shaft has also rarely been used if ever. Tires are 90+%. Engine starts up and idles well. Hydraulics feel strong and are relatively quick. The loader is tweaked a little to one side, but I didn't buy it for the loader. That will be off most of the year and will likely only be used for moving bales and occasionally snow although I have other better options for that. I would like to get a canopy for it as I think it will primarily be used for raking/tedding hay and It would be nice to be in the shade while doing that. Then it will be the utility tractor around the house (brush mower, grading the driveway, moving firewood, etc). If I do end up using the loader a fair amount I will look into a quick attach for the bucket end of the loader since I have attachments for SSQA. Bottom line, I feel this should be a nice smaller fuel efficient tractor to have around the farm that was way cheaper than any modern 50 HP tractor and likely heavier built also.

Absolutely !!!!! I have to fight back the urge to send a tip every year when i mail my check in

At least the flywheel surface looks to be OK/resurfaceable.

The Amish here have church in their homes; they move from home to home each week. I took this picture a while back. I used to own the home in the picture, but sold it to an Amish family a few years ago; I kept the Morton building, the bins, buildings, and the farmyard. The Amish family has been great neighbors.

WHen we were young,prior to johnson nixon greenspan buying computers to keep up with govt $$$ books.Ie; 2nd phase of totally going off gold (insert plundered) '69-'71 incl nasa to the moon. We were told (then) from the time of Christ - 24/7/365 non stop ,it was impossible for 2 ppl to toss $100 bills away faster. Also that $.01 compounding and esp doubling down actuality worked 10x better than (not yet 401k etal) All changed in '79 And banks actually cared for the customer and (then) customers (not govt ) $$. Full CHINA sets, toasters etc were regularly given to customers. Also cars, Aunt at age 73 won a honda 90 street bike, but on $150 (fair govt)pension/ssi had to sell it to pay the low 25% tax. now the off books just fly-gift pallets of $100 to the "deed" doers.WHile we peasants are subject to ID and marker to use/have.

Yes, but will the person who installed this ever even know that they botched this one; probably not. Going around thinking that they ‘gott’r dun’. i have made plenty of mistakes. I learned from them also, but I don’t believe I’ve ever pooched anything this bad and not realized it before sending it down the road. Also there is no reason to have missing bolts or bolts in the wrong location. That’s just bad practice. ‘Hmm have a bunch of bolts leftover, oh well.”

I thought the top was two years ago,boy was I wrong.

Most of the discs these days (last several years) that I’ve seen, are actually labeled “Flywheel Side”. Now I know why

I'll give a perfect example of what might have happened. I have a kolher K321 that I took out if a jd140 to rebuild, took it completely apart to have it bored 10 thou over and the crank machined. Its been apart for over 5 years now and I have forgotten how to reassemble the darn thing. I have all the new parts to reassemble but no time. Whoever too yours apart may have had the same issue.

from fart sniffing to the Coliseum in Rome! That is quite a swing in subjects!!!! LOL

Lots of crazy stuff to see here.

When that reset (collapse) hits it will be back to square one....on a different level. 😉

To help put things in perspective because we get so desensitized by hearing millions, billions, trillions. 1 million seconds is 11.5 days, 1 billion seconds is 31.6 years, 1 trillion seconds is 31,600 years. Pretty eye opening. I think the national debt is past the point of no return.

The loader is probably why the clutch was out in the first place. That will be a great tractor for what you are wanting to do with it.

I put a clutch in one of those, seems like every year or two (3, for neighbors in the last two years) and I’d have said it was physically not possible to reverse the disc. Now I know. It had to have gone together, Really Hard.

It's nice to see Ford was consistent across it's lines in offering multiple different parts for the same thing. I thought that was just a feature of the trucks.

I have one very high quality putty knife that only gets used for gasket scrapping , and only the bad situations. It is very hard and very straight . I have a handful of regular putty knifes for every day. The edge bevel is crucial to be able to apply very heavy pressure and control depth of cut with the angle of the tool. Oil or solvent will soften it a bit. There are no easy ways sometimes, just ways!

Its one thing to fix it wrong. But it's another thing to leave it and not fix it right.

My money is on some stubborn old fool who decided he was going to do it himself after he found out shop rates have not been 20 dollars per hour since 1980. Probably too much beer was consumed in the process.

Never thought of earplug . Learn something new everyday.

Like others have said. A good scraper. I plug the push rod holes with rags and the lube ports. Ear plugs work good. Use a shop vac to suck debris as you scrape. Some of the stuff is really on there!

Center section and bolster is different between the two. Magnum pivots above the axle and 88 pivots through the axle I think. Cotton pickers had a serial number break they switched too. Knees out are all the same.

Do any of them wear crocs?

Most likely it's copper based. Most aluminum radiators have plastic tanks.

I was just looking this stuff up. I know it was on here before. Jim ( sd man) had posted these things from caseIh. I know the later dt466 c used in trucks had roller cams and timing cover mounted power steering pump. I have one I bought cheap. But looking over the changes. The dt 466 c came out in 1983 and at that time was just the Bosch in-line pump. Maybe the wider bearings also. The roller cam was only in trucks later on.

Tungsten edge scraper.... Order from Super Scraper . com I have one I've used for quite a long time, still working on the first side, Have to flip it over to unused side once an awhile to remove a flaw or burr.

There could easily be a correction, but we don’t even know if we’re at the top yet.

My friend sent me this and when I tell you my coffee exited both my mouth and nose at the same time I'm not kidding!!! 🤣😭😭

My oldest daughter works on a dairy farm that does just that. They even buy feeders above what they produce.

I Googled it up but can't find the one I'm looking for. Another Arkie was converting his but I found several other good old threads. The S may be easier than a loafstar.

The IH is a 1979 S-1924 with the MV-446 engine. The Power Stroke engine is in a 2000 F-250 pickup. Rust has put both vehicles down but they run very well.

I don’t know if they will or not. There is roller lifters available aftermarket for the bigger lifter bores. Presumably for pulling motors.

Stairs up and elevator down, that`s beef prices.

I'd like to find one of those myself. They're a neat little implement. I'd also like to find a lift type disk, but neither are common around here. For that matter, Cub implements in general are hard to find in these parts.

They were used down to the HD-16. A farm around here still uses a pair of them to farm with. They are only 160 hp but pull 59ft plows with them and that takes 400-450 hp in modern day 4 wheel drive tractors

It was the Big Al engine I believe:

I am not a expert but I wouldn't be using a screwdriver,hammer or chisel. I haven't done too many but I never had to go to those lengths to clean the block deck.I am in the process of replacing a headgasket now on Perkins.I just use brake clean and a light scraper.I then use a synthetic fiber buffing wheels in a cordless drill.Works real well.You can buy them anywhere and all sizes.It looks like a lot of Copper Coat on your block.I had that on mine,brake clean and fiber wheels worked great.Shinded it right up.I personally stay away from a wire wheel or brush because you will have pieces of wire all through your motor.Make sure you take a small pen magnet and go through any oil or coolant journals to get any metal debris out.

OAT is acid based - red and some yellow IAT is basic based - old green (or yellow) ethylene glycol HOAT is a step child that wants to be both so, oat and iat are at opposite ends of the Ph scale and will counteract each other Yeah have seen some of the claims -- only for temp use at best, not long term Because the protection scheme if totally opposite Pink used to be alcohol based -- not sure if that is still the case with the new stuff Blue was propylene glycol which is a different thing altogether

A coworker ran a plow cat in the 80’s - a TD25 with an 817. He spoke highly of it. The 2 speed steering was a huge benefit for plowing I am told. They Western Star in the pic has a 525hp KT Cummins.

Spent a little time working on the Cub yesterday. I've had it since 2019 and it's never ran "right". Oh, it would cultivate the garden and run the little hammer mill, but it never had enough power to plow or disk. So I decided to try and fix it yesterday. New Amazon carb, new points/condenser/rotor, and a fluid change. But that really didn't help... until I started messing with the timing. After a bit of tinkering, I got it running better than ever, and decided to start on this year's garden spot- I used the 152 disk plow, and it handled it well in 2nd gear, though I forgot to move the axle out. Then used the little 23A disk to smooth it all down. I've got another spot to work on after church, so more pictures to come. I'm extremely pleased that I got the little guy running better, having something that won't do as intended is frustrating and my next step was selling the darn thing and buying a Super A!

Carefully Or with AI. Obviously..the wt for 2 animals is unworkable alone

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