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  1. I had a neighbor give me a bunch of brochures her husband collected over the years. They retired from farming but he died not too long afterwards so they just lease the place out now. But they finished their farming career with a pair of IH 1460s with consecutive serial numbers. Both were bought at different times and 200 miles apart. Kinda neat. Anyways one of the brochures she gave me was one for the IH 1400 AF series. I'm guessing post 1980 since it features the 1420 and electric over hydraulic controls. In the brochure he circled several "options" including the rock beater. His land isn't terribly rocky but it only takes one rock to ruin a combine. I wasn't aware of the stone retarder drum either. The few times I have run a combine with a corn header I caught the gathering chains bringing a rock right up into the auger. When we used to swath, picking windrows off the ground would bring in rocks too even if you have none. Also take note the brochure says Big Sky Equipment who was one of the dealers that chipped in to buy that 5 millionth tractor. Still exist today as a NH dealer.
  2. There are AFs around here with a front beater to function as a rock trap. Did everybody forget that. Even my old 715 has a front beater for a rock trap. Plus there has been more than one AF in the neighborhood blown apart by rocks that didn't have a rock trap including a few 8120s. Rocks destroying combines is not just a NH thing. We had a short crop this year and we were emptying our rock traps every day. Plus I think the grain quality is slightly over blown anyway on the beater. We grow pulse crops such as green peas, chickpeas, lentils, and yellow peas. These are food grade crops and cracking is a big deal and will result in discounts and rejection if really bad. It's to the point were most guys including us no matter what brand of combine, will stop and dump to just idle the unloading auger down. Only guys that can top that i'm guessing are the edible bean growers, certainly not the corn/wheat/soybean guys. These pulse crops can be high value. Sold our chickpeas last year for $20 a bushel and have them contracted this year for $18 a bushel. If the front beater was adversely effecting grain quality you think I would use JD combine on a crop like that??
  3. https://www.farm-equipment.com/blogs/6-opinions-columns/post/22190-the-difference-between-new-holland-and-case-ihs-new-combines Here is a video going over the NH CR 11. The link above has the video too but is also an article kinda explaining that the NH reps let the guys look underneath the hood but the Case guys at a different show had their copy roped off for some reason and wouldn't let the crew look up close. What are they hiding?? He also mentioned western Canada once which is my back yard. Sounds like a strong market for them.
  4. Nobody buys combines based on simplicity anymore because if they did we would all be running Gleaner and the Massey/White rotor would still be on the market. Both those combines were simpler than an AF.
  5. The rotors on the CTS were fixed speed. I’m guessing not having the ability to slow them down in beans/corn hampered them somewhat. That’s why I keep using the words “if JD further developed”
  6. The CTS weren't pushed too hard around here either. My dealer at the time sold a few of them. Up in Canada north of me is were they pushed harder and more popular. The JD dealership in Lethbridge was very aggressive with them and they had a head mechanic who was an expert on them that advised us on a few things. I know people on here won't believe me but the one remaining Case dealer we did business with just north of the border told us on more then one occasion those CTSs were causing them to loose sleep at night. They came in two versions. Rice and small grains. They work in other crops too and I know of guys using them in corn/beans and we did cut chickpeas and canola with ours. Right before buying ours, we talked to a couple of Australian farmers who had CTS combines. They told us, the ones exported to Australia had a higher 2nd gear range than the US models. I think they topped out at around 9 mph and that was to take advantage of the capacity of the combine in their low yielding crops. One of the things that held CTS back was a lot of guys/salesmen/dealers didn't know how to set them right. They would set the combine like a 9500 which really choked off the capacity. You were suppose, to set the cylinder open a 1/3 of the way to get more threashing/seperation to the rotors and open the pre cleaner up. And then price wise they cost as much as a 9600/9610 which I think held back sales. People couldn't get past the fact despite the CTS being a 9500 it had the capacity of the 9600 or 2X88. One feature the CTS had that I have never seen any other combine have is you can open up the back hood and roll out the rotors to work on them. The CTS wasn't perfect but if JD would have further developed it they could have had what Claas combines are today which much better backing and parts support. It was a combine let down by JD themselves really in an effort to just go after sales instead of quality.
  7. Neighbor of mine has a Magnum 7240 with a loader. Bought it new that way. Only things it has done is pull a rock picker and big bush hog.
  8. I’ve been to a couple 20 min presentations at crop seminars about this. They make it sound easy which is the scary part. Don’t know if anybody actually in these type of programs. I’d wager if the commodity prices stay here or tank further desperate people might sign up
  9. Long time ago I helped a guy I know for 3 days cutting 40 bu winter wheat with his TR 98. He had a 36ft honey bee on it. I asked about the right rotor getting more than the left rotor. He just shrugged his shoulders and said it still works fine and I left it at that. That was my first exposure to an TR up close and at the time we had our CTS. I was impressed and that combine gave up nothing to anything JD and Case had at the time. Only things I don’t care for was the cab was inferior to Case/JD and I didn’t like the swivel auger. I can see picking windrows would be a problem for a TR but the easy solution to that is to lay two windrows side by side. We started that when we got up to the 8820s. And with the size of today’s combines unless you are cutting 100+ bu wheat, you pretty much need twin swaths to justify the capacity. But other then picking swaths, I don’t think rotor overloading is any more of an issue then a JD or AF overloading the shoe on one side due to the single rotor. Gleaner guys love to point that out and I’ve even heard some guys say their shoe loss goes down when their combine tilts to one side.
  10. When I toured the combine factory back in 1997, they told us the CTS was taking up a fourth of their production. I don’t know the exact market share for JD but I’ve always heard it was around 50%. Assuming that, then the CTS at its peak had around 12% of the market. That would be more the all of Gleaner, all of Massey, guessing more then NH, and probably outsold every case combine except maybe the 2366. JD instead of playing the long game with in my opinion a superior design decided to hire Case combine engineers and make a green AF to sway red guys over to the green side.
  11. We’ve always had NH combines in my area despite dealers closing and opening back up. There were even a few of the pre TR conventionals around here. Go up to Canada which basically I farm right next to and I’ve been told they are alot more popular and challenge Case for market share. Here are a couple of old threads from NAT that are interesting. https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=207881&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1 https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=512738&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1 I’m keeping track of this thread because I have a feeling that after this new Case 11 hits the market, dealers start selling them, Case guys start running them, the Welkers of the world start posting videos, we will hear nothing but good things about the combine and twin rotor concept. Besides starting with the 8010, Flagship AFs are more or less NHs with only one rotor.
  12. I’m 100% sure they are the same or at least were it counts although the press releases make it out to be Case designed it. Kinda of laughable. I thought they were and maybe still are coming with a class 10 single rotor bigger then what they currently offer.
  13. I’ve always wondered as a result or because of the IH vs NH lawsuit over the TR, that IH wasn’t allowed to use the NH type rotor and had to make due with the elephant ears on the front of the rotor. It’s almost like those didn’t exist anymore after the AFX rotor came out.
  14. They are picking up steam here. I know at least 6 farms that have went from AF combines to NH in my neighborhood. My JD dealer has sold over 20 X9s and I suspect if the NH dealers get off their ass and sell, there will be more of the NH 11s sold.
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