Big Bud guy

Harvest usually starts around here in August when it’s still hot out. The saying’ goes you can swath and cut it 4 days later or just wait 4 days and cut it. A lot of barley was swathed around here because of shatter.

Swathing was very popular around here and throughout MT for awhile. Reasons we swathed was typically back then guys just didn't start seeding until May which meant harvest ran late on some years. Also another big reason why is some varieties of wheat would shell out when fully ripe and sawflies. We swathed consistently from the 50s up into the 90s. But its a practice you seldom see anymore because it adds more expense to the crop, we have better varieties that don't shell out and ripen sooner and we just have better farming practices. Plus there is always the risk of getting swaths rained on and ruining the crop. Also, the post WW II modern pull type combines never took hold here. Yet you go 10 miles north of me into Canada you start seeing pull type combines. I always thought it was a Canadian thing although I've heard they were popular in the Dakotas too.

The way I read it Ferguson was screwing Ford out of money on the 9n and 2ns and Henry Ford II returned the favor by creating the 8n without paying royalties.

I can do the same thing with a 10” load out auger and either a 10” auger or the Brandt grain belt. 10 hp electric motor on the bin auger and 28 hp on the grain belt. No screaming tractor or vac.

Couple years ago my cousin rented a grain vac just to see how they are. He lasted half a day before he took it back. I’ve never understood how lugging the hose around is any easier then following a decent sweep with a broom. A properly set up bin beats a grain vac any time. We went back and installed these in all our older bins that didn’t have load out augers. http://clewsmanagement.com/circle-king-products-2/ All bins we have put up in the last 30 years have had load out augers. Looking around the neighborhood, it just amazes me how many put up bins and think they are saving money by not installing a load out auger/sweep and just using a grain vac.

My neighbor cooked his 806 on a Brandt 5000. My 1256 came off of a grain vac and I wouldn't recommend anything less than that.

So you are basing all this off just that one example off of craigslist and you also only know one guy that owns a 6.7. The way you talked I thought you were a fleet mechanic or something. geeez

Got a 6.7 in the yard that says you are wrong. Plenty more around here that say you are wrong too. But whatever, there always has to be that 1 out 10 that goes against the other 9 in a poll.

An L Case with a Cummins?? Case did experiment with diesels in the L back in the 30s I think. Combines went through the same thing as tractors in the mid 50s to early 60s. JD for example went from the 30" cylinder 55 to the 50" cylinder 105 in just 4 years. IH went from SP 141 with a 32" cylinder to the 181 with a 46" in the same time frame. And the 12A combine which was JD's best selling combine ever going into the 50s was dropped from the lineup by 1961. Not enough "small" farmers around to buy them I guess.

You're joking right. 6.7s are all over the place around here and they have not been no where near the trouble the 6.0 and 6.4 was. I thought IH got sued over those engines. I can't think of any of those engines still around here. I think you have it backwards.

Sure looks to me like at least JD saw bigger tractors on the horizon. I could give you the production numbers of their rowcrop tractors that show the bigger ones increasing in sales and the smaller ones decreasing over time. Also, the average size farm in 1954 was 242 acres. .

We do to. We average 10-11 just putting around the farm. Out on the highway you can get them up to 12.5. Pulling any trailer then it’s half that on a good day.

That all might be true in your little part of the world but the 50s was the beginning of the horsepower race and IH screwed the pooch more or less by not developing high reliable horsepower. Just read tractor history from reputable authors and you will see farms were getting bigger and farmers were wanting bigger and bigger tractors as the 50s went on. Even Bill Koob from the Bash board who was I think a Case salesman had the same opinion as Dr. Evil. Case could have made more sales if they had installed the 6 cylinder engine used in the 500 into the 400 which only had a 4 cylinder engine. Heck my great grandpa who came to this country with nothing but his cloths, who went through 2 depressions and dry years that are common in MT but yet found the need to buy/upgrade his tractor 3 times during from 1953 to 1960 with each one being bigger.

Fun fact for everybody who thinks an N series doesn't belong in rowcrop country. They have the same clearance underneath the axles as a Farmall A. Just saying.

Makes sense for Kinze but who was the other guy. $61,000 is right around what we paid for a Versatile 950 back in 1980. Also bought a 4640 and that was around $45,000.