anyone have a security team at church

[Driver1]

We are 1 mile from the edge of the county and 4 miles out of town,so we are a soft target.

[TroyDairy]

We have a list.  So 1 fella basically sits in back.  Hes armed.  Rest of list is printed and by sound guy so if he sees/thinks something is arye he can grab a guy.  The list is all normally armed individuals and 1st responders/LE.  I feel we should put the cameras main screen by sound guys so they can see anything coming in.  

 

Same deal mile from town.  300 350 people.

[Mark (EC,IN)]

I can't really add anything to this thread.

But it is beyond my 75 years on this planet that a thread like this is necessary.

I realize it is what we have become,  but it's sad.

[Drysleeves]

Yes

Layered security beginning with the parking lot and staged into the Sanctuary.

[Lazy WP]

We do. My wife is on it and one of the leaders of it. She always carries anyway. They do some SERIOUS training!!

We go to church in Salina and there’s 7 churches in a3 block area. 

[mader656]

Yes two plus well trained guys per service. With radio comms. Biggest church in our small town. One in the entry rest in service. 

[jass1660]

If you can’t feel safe in church why bother going? God listens no matter where you’re at.

[TroyDairy]

42 minutes ago, jass1660 said:

If you can’t feel safe in church why bother going? God listens no matter where you’re at.

Yep

But it is what it is.  And i like the meeting of the church family.  Whole week is off if we do not go b/c out of town

[jass1660]

I haven’t been to a church service in over 10 years. I’m spiritual but not religious. 

[vtfireman85]

I always carry, but I think the congregation here has some different views on the whole… a lot of Subaru and Prius in the parking lot.. if you catch my drift. It’s funny, I was just thinking about this, I walked into the FD dinner tonight and put my backup in the kitchen drawer, making sure a couple of the guys were aware of it, of course had my primary with me. I’ve never once been concerned about needing one at an FD function, but these days, you can’t be too careful. 

[bitty]

Very rural here . I'm fairly certain that we have an unofficial security team just by knowing who all is attending 

[Big Bud guy]

4 hours ago, Mark (EC,IN) said:

I can't really add anything to this thread.

But it is beyond my 75 years on this planet that a thread like this is necessary.

I realize it is what we have become,  but it's sad.

I agree.  It wouldn't surprise me to hear of needing security in inner city churches but to hear of churches with security that Redpowermagazine members attend is actually appalling to me.  Guess I have my head stuck in a hole in the ground,  

[Big Bud guy]

No we don't and I wouldn't want to live a place that needed security at a church

[nc1112]

2 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

No we don't and I wouldn't want to live a place that needed security at a church

I can understand your view, however I fall into the category of its better to have it and not need it than the other way around.  Our community is a small close knit rural one, however being the largest community for 60+ miles in any direction, it is still a target for someone wishing to do harm.  In all the years my family has lived here there hasn't been an issue but with some of the current events in the world it makes sense for us to do some risk management.  Do I wish we could go back to a time when you could leave your house and vehicle unlocked and people had a mutual respect for others? Absolutely.

[iowaboy1965]

Ours does and I believe the doors are locked after the service starts...county seat so not a small town but not large either.

[New Englander]

Synagogues seem to be the most at risk but it seems any denomination is fair game now. 

People suck. 

[Sledgehammer]

Yes, several members are armed and someone is in charge of being up and about every week.  

Churches are an easy target sadly. If you are a bad person and want to maximize damage in numbers no matter what the crazy reason is.....  Should it be that way? Absolutely not, but it's the age we live in. Just because we don't think that should be a problem in our small towns doesn't mean it won't be. It's no reason not to attend somewhere, just something to consider. 

[DHF]

i don't think we have security but doors are locked when service begins and our church has a preschool during the week and no one who is not authorized is allowed in when school going on.

sad state of affairs.

pete 

[cobfly]

God is great, beer is good, people are crazy.

[sandhiller]

17 hours ago, jass1660 said:

If you can’t feel safe in church why bother going? God listens no matter where you’re at.

To keep Satan from winning

Today, the battlefield is everywhere

If you come to my church or any place good people gather, with the intent on doing evil, you may or may not have time to look back on the bad choices you made that led you to this very uncomfortable position you now find yourself in

 

 

[Mudfly]

Our church is never locked.  24/7/365.  The office is locked, beyond that it’s open to whomever needs it.  
There are activities there nearly everyday so everyone had a key anyway, so why keep it locked.

i don’t understand the thought of “the doors are locked once service begins”.  I maybe naive, but I concur with others I will not go to a church that needs to be locked up.

[Lazy WP]

Churches would be such an easy target for a bad guy. Most people sit with their backs to the door, are welcoming, and most people are totally oblivious to people who come in. 
At our church, we lock the doors once the service starts. We are in the heart of Salina, yes the town is only 65,000, but if you’re making an impact on Satans world he doesn’t like it. I guess if you aren’t, you don’t have to worry about it. 
We have had strung out homeless people try to get in, yes they need the Lord too, but we will deal with them one by one. 
 

[766 Man]

  My church (Catholic) is unlocked during Mass.  People do come late and people have health issues requiring them to step outside to address.  An older lady just today was helped to the door where I presume paramedics diagnosed and transported her to the hospital in the next town west.  Outside of scheduled services the church is locked for the most part.  People do steal things such as copper tubing and wiring.  Vandalism does happen as well.

[Lazy WP]

6 minutes ago, 766 Man said:

My church (Catholic) is unlocked during Mass.  People do come late and people have health issues requiring them to step outside to address

Our doors are monitored. If you come late we let you in. If you show up unvetted, you probably won’t get past the front door. 

[Drysleeves]

Either you lock the doors during Mass or post guards. Those are the only choices and it’s currently Holy Week, so BOLO and up your game.