Oldironbestiron Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 Someone brought up running straight water a while back, and I finally got some pictures of what happens after a few years and before I hear about it, I gave $600 for it with brand new F&R 15.5-38 firestones, yall would have snagged it too waiting for me to put it back together, it had hairline crack in the water jacket I had to braze It already had water and a crack in it when I bought it, radiator was completely clogged, overheating fast 1 Quote
cobfly Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 I would keep the tires and use the rest as a boat anchor. Green anchors matter. Plus, if you lose your anchor, you don't care. You're not out much. 5 8 Quote
766 Man Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 I'm thinking that care was not taken to use clean water. Don't know what kind of issues are in pond water down in Texas but water around here unless receiving runoff or an underground spring should be fairly pure and pH neutral. A good warning as to using antifreeze with rust inhibitors even where it seldom freezes. 2 Quote
Oldironbestiron Posted December 31, 2025 Author Posted December 31, 2025 29 minutes ago, 766 Man said: I'm thinking that care was not taken to use clean water. Don't know what kind of issues are in pond water down in Texas but water around here unless receiving runoff or an underground spring should be fairly pure and pH neutral. A good warning as to using antifreeze with rust inhibitors even where it seldom freezes. The water from windmills here is fairly salty fyi the tractor came from a hay farm in Arteisa nm, old man who bled green had a barn full of em, from a LA to a 830 diesel he started that hay farm with those old 2 lungers, and his son had since upgraded through 4020s, to 4450s, as he said “that’s the last tractor JD made that’s worth a damn” great auction though, 1 Quote
766 Man Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 Salty water will do that and nothing is immune to it. Well water here can have issues with iron, calcium, and sulfur creating rust and corrosion. 2 Quote
Binderoid Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 That previous owner probably read Green Magazine.... they were big proponents of that. Mr.Thinker, and 'a variety of experts' once told an overheating MT owner to drain the anti freeze and run straight water. Since it was a letters section at the time, it is unknown whether this helped or not. 1 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 Be very careful with engines from areas that don't freeze. A lot of them have been running with straight water for years and likely have bad corrosion in the block and heads. Running straight water requires use of a rust inhibitor. 3 Quote
1480x3 Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 I always heard "pond water freezes, if you dont use antifreeze use water from the creek since it dont freeze, not the pond " 😁 2 4 Quote
Ihfan4life Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 25 minutes ago, 1480x3 said: I always heard "pond water freezes, if you dont use antifreeze use water from the creek since it dont freeze, not the pond " 😁 High school buddy got a job working at a farm. They were outside in the winter fixing a silo unloaded and he noticed his water was freezing and the bosses wasn’t. He took a swallow and promptly found out why the bosses water wasn’t freezing… it had enough alcohol to keep it liquid 😂 7 Quote
int 504 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Around here it was spring water. On the coast and islands they used salt water cause the ocean didn't freeze. Quote
Reichow7120 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 hours ago, cobfly said: I would keep the tires and use the rest as a boat anchor. Green anchors matter. Same. Keep the tires and sell the rest for scrap. Worth more by the pound. Lol 1 1 Quote
lotsaIHCs Posted January 1 Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Reichow7120 said: Same. Keep the tires and sell the rest for scrap. Worth more by the pound. Lol I would have kept the tires and sold the rest to a putt nut. I hate to see any old tractor go for scrap. I'm just not a popper guy. But I don't begrudge anyone who likes them. More power to em'! I just didn't care for the ones I have run. I grew up on a Farmall M so that's what I'm used to. When I worked for farmers in high school I ran JD 2 cyl, Massey 55, Farmall 656 and B, Versatile G125 etc. Worked on and drove AC D15 and others. But the Farmalls always just seemed to fit me better. 1 Quote
snoshoe Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I'm guessing model 70. I see 801 hitch, live hydraulics and power steering. Do not see live pto lever. Nor shift lever(s). Standard rubber on 60's was usually 11". 1 Quote
acem Posted January 1 Posted January 1 The very best coolant comes from the little ditch on the side of a muddy road!!! 1 Quote
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted January 1 Posted January 1 So don’t use dirty water or your engine will be toast in 70 years? 3 1 Quote
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 hour ago, snoshoe said: I'm guessing model 70. I see 801 hitch, live hydraulics and power steering. Do not see live pto lever. Nor shift lever(s). Standard rubber on 60's was usually 11". I don’t think it’s a 70. The frame looks straight all the way back. A 70 would be wider in the back where the cast front frame bolts on to the crankcase and narrower in the front. 2 Quote
Big Bud guy Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I'm guessing it's a 60 with factory power steering not after market add on like others. Looks too big for a 50 and DFP is right on the frame. 2 Quote
New Englander Posted January 1 Posted January 1 When I was a kid non-permanent or alcohol type anti freeze was still being used. Glycol permanent type was rapidly replacing it but alcohol was still cheaper. You could smell it in cars still using it. You could only use a 160 degree thermostat as it would boil off on anything hotter thus the heater didn't work anywhere as well. At the time it was still common to read the auto ads stating R&H or radio and heater. Southern cars often didn't have heaters. 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 11 hours ago, Reichow7120 said: Same. Keep the tires and sell the rest for scrap. Worth more by the pound. Lol That wouldn't be logical I have been schooled by the experts that those poppers are better than any IH made so it is worth saving. If it was a modern layout it could be repowered. 3 Quote
Powered by IH Posted January 1 Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, jeeper61 said: That wouldn't be logical I have been schooled by the experts that those poppers are better than any IH made so it is worth saving. If it was a modern layout it could be repowered. Not mine: https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=26365 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 32 minutes ago, Powered by IH said: Not mine: https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=26365 It wasn't easy and sure wasn't cheep Makes a Cummins repower on a IH look like a walk in the park. 1 Quote
jeeper61 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Apparently water like distilled which has no minerals will then dissolve them from the metal. IMO it is best just to run coolant which has all the correct additives to prevent corrosion and cavitation 3 1 Quote
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