Nebraska’s “FARMER “. Governor

[lorenzo]

[Gabriella Cook]

nice

[lorenzo]

Just now, Gabriella Cook said:

nice

Read that closely,  once that red dye is in there its there a long long time.

[Gabriella Cook]

1 minute ago, lorenzo said:

Read that closely,  once that red dye is in there its there a long long time.

so other states can fine you when you leave?

[Farmall1066]

I can’t remember how many gallons of clear diesel it takes to dilute out 1 gallon of dyed fuel, but it’s quite a bit 

[twostepn2001]

l think the Texas governor did the same thing. Kinda funny though. The only time l've ever heard of the DOT checking vehicle tanks for red diesel is at farm auctions. At one farm sale last year not too far from here, they pulled a surprise inspection on all the diesel pickups there. Something like 65% was running red diesel. They were fined pretty heavy l heard. 

[Gabriella Cook]

huh, perty heavy fines, do they very state to state

[Gearclash]

30 minutes ago, lorenzo said:

Read that closely,  once that red dye is in there its there a long long time.

Not really.  Just have to pay attention that the dyed fuel gets run as low as possible before switching back to clear. 
 

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[Lazy WP]

I got checked many years ago in my pickup. I had run out of clear fuel at home and had 15 big cows on headed to the sale barn in Burwell. Got stopped in Taylor, and I was honest with him. He tried dipping my tanks and couldn’t get any fuel. I told him that he could check my fuel filter, and he told me that if I had guts enough to have that many cows in the trailer with that little of fuel, I probably wasn’t gonna violate the fuel tax law very much. 
I have been checked at the sale barn in Lajunta Colorado but those are the only two times. 

[Lazy WP]

His executive order also allows for overweight, sorta. 

[cjf711]

50 minutes ago, twostepn2001 said:

l think the Texas governor did the same thing. Kinda funny though. The only time l've ever heard of the DOT checking vehicle tanks for red diesel is at farm auctions. At one farm sale last year not too far from here, they pulled a surprise inspection on all the diesel pickups there. Something like 65% was running red diesel. They were fined pretty heavy l heard. 

dad got pulled over with our F450.  Single cab with 11' bed,  not loaded.   for passing a weigh station in illinois,   they sampled the fuel tank.

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[Ihfan4life]

1 hour ago, twostepn2001 said:

l think the Texas governor did the same thing. Kinda funny though. The only time l've ever heard of the DOT checking vehicle tanks for red diesel is at farm auctions. At one farm sale last year not too far from here, they pulled a surprise inspection on all the diesel pickups there. Something like 65% was running red diesel. They were fined pretty heavy l heard. 

I had them check my tanks! In NH.

[Ihfan4life]

1 hour ago, Gabriella Cook said:

huh, perty heavy fines, do they very state to state

Most likely… I would expect that a governor’s executive order would carry into border states, but wouldn’t think it would be valid if you’re a state and a half away. I think it would be a gray area until it’s tested by the law agencies and courts if it came to that…. 

[Drysleeves]

1 hour ago, Farmall1066 said:

I can’t remember how many gallons of clear diesel it takes to dilute out 1 gallon of dyed fuel, but it’s quite a bit 

Good thing it's all about saving the planet and not all about the money.

Oh wait, it is all about the money because the fuel is all the same except for color games after we got here via Marxist installment subterfuge. Now it's all dish water until you pay extra for additives to restore some cetane and lubricity that used to be in the fuel from the refinery. We pay extra to have it removed because of an unaccountable agency and then pay again to have it restored to avoid engine damage.

In a related matter, the original "road fuel" was red and "off road" was clear. It took the incompetent slime at least a year to figure out that was contrary to their goal of eventual "enforcement".

[whweldit]

Alabama governor just did the same.   Strange thing is there is 50 cents road tax on regular diesel but off road is only 10 cents or so cheaper than on road   DOT here is known for checking tanks at livestock sales or farm auctions. 

[int 504]

 

I've heard the real problem with the red fuel use on road is an audit by the IRS.

[lotsaIHCs]

In ND it always used to be 45.4 cents cheaper for off road because road tax was 45.4 cents. I don't know if that's still true but that's how it was 25 years ago.

[Alan Dinan]

A guy here in southern Illinois got nailed in his field. Pickup, tandem and semi. DOT pulled into his field and pulled samples. All 3 had dyed in them. $30,000 fine. He tried fighting it saying that they were trespassing on private property. They blew it off and said they would have just sat on the road and waited for him to leave. That was about 25 years ago 

[acem]

In Arkansas you can run off road fuel in cotton module hauling trucks and litter spreader trucks.  Both are special purpose trucks that cannot be used for much else.  They threw us a bone. 

Of course, my litter spreader truck burns gas but right now I'd rather burn gas than off road diesel...

[jass1660]

Only eliminates state taxes, federal still have to be paid.

[Alan Dinan]

2 hours ago, acem said:

In Arkansas you can run off road fuel in cotton module hauling trucks and litter spreader trucks.  Both are special purpose trucks that cannot be used for much else.  They threw us a bone. 

Of course, my litter spreader truck burns gas but right now I'd rather burn gas than off road diesel...

In Illinois, you can get away with a lime spreader truck that doesn’t go to the quarry to load the lime. As long as you just drive it from farm to farm, you don’t need license plates on it. So I’m assuming that you can run dyed diesel in it too.

[1256pickett]

1 hour ago, jass1660 said:

Only eliminates state taxes, federal still have to be paid.

That was my first thought. I heard many years ago IRS guys were the ones dipping tanks. Don’t know if it was correct or not but rumor was you do not want to get caught by them, their fines would bankrupt you? 

[lorenzo]

6 hours ago, Lazy WP said:

His executive order also allows for overweight, sorta. 

I get the overweight permit every year however treat it like  a safety blanket really.  By that i mean we don’t tend to run overloaded unless its just from the field near home on a gravel road.   My philosophy is that if we get into some sort of an accident, even if it’s not our fault, they will blame it on us if we are overweight.

[Lazy WP]

8 minutes ago, lorenzo said:

I get the overweight permit every year however treat it like  a safety blanket really.  By that i mean we don’t tend to run overloaded unless its just from the field near home on a gravel road.   My philosophy is that if we get into some sort of an accident, even if it’s not our fault, they will blame it on us if we are overweight.

I used it the day he signed it. I was 81700 pounds and headed down I-80. 10ft wide and legal, evidently. I got pulled into the scale in North Platte and never got a ticket. 

[MTB98]

The IRS enforces the federal side of fuel tax evasion. The fines are $1,000 minimum or $10 per gallon, whichever is greater, for first time offenders. It’s generally a civil penalty but violators can be criminally charged. 
Each state also has its own regulatory agency responsible for collecting fines on top of the Fed.