farmall57 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Cool Graham Hoemes ad....there were many in eastern Colo....always wondered how it was pronounced....my dad always called it a "gray-m hay me", most everyone else had a different way to say it....not sure how or where my dad got his idea. Quote
Loadstar Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Cool Graham Hoemes ad....there were many in eastern Colo....always wondered how it was pronounced....my dad always called it a "gray-m hay me", most everyone else had a different way to say it....not sure how or where my dad got his idea. That is the same way we say it here. Although I don't expect a lot of people would recognize the name nowadays no matter how you pronounced it. Getting to the cool time of year here and I guess if you were going to work with the old Graham Hoeme you would want to have the "Heat Houser" on the tractor. Quote
Ron Cook Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Great ad, Ralph. The Heat Houser was the best. Always fit good and boy, was it a great thing to have!!! One year I even figured out how to get it on the tractor that had a mounted corn picker on it. I still have the remnants of one for a John Deere A. The canvas is about disappeared and what is left is really thin. Only part that is good is the frame. Ron Quote
Old Binder Guy Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 They are discussing old three wheeled tractors over on the IH tractors on Montana Farm thread so I dug up this Hyatts bearings ad from 1948. It features a tractor that was old even in 1948. A "Bull Pinion". Never heard of it. Ralph, I'm just catching up here. I started this morning with the Bull Pinion, which has to be similar to the Square Turn shown below, with my late friend, Walter F. Mehmke on his. Other ads of yours struck chords as well. Graham-Hoeme chisel plows were very popular in the Judith Basin when I was a kid. All of the good farmers had them.... however we didn't! They were the leaders in the chisel plow industry back then. Dad had a John Deere chisel plow after they came out with their's. Farmers discovered this was the tool they'd been needing. Before that we just had the old spring loaded shank type cultivators and the springs weren't strong enough to hold the shovels in the ground, in tough going. Gray-m - Hay-me was how many pronounced the names, how in the agricultural community there were those who just called them Graham -"Ho-me" too. I guess it just mattered how Germanic you were, as to how you pronounced the last name? Then the 'Heat Houser".... that made winter on a tractor bearable! I remember Dad having one on a Farmall M, he used for something in the winter, when I was a boy. It may have been to pull a bobsled with hay, after he'd gotten rid of the work hoses? Gary PS: And the Gaar-Scott Tiger thresher. I was never around a Gaar Scott threshing machine, however have ran their fine steam engines. But I've otherwise spent time around threshers, so needed to remark there. Quote
Delta Dirt Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Really great to see the Graham Hoeme chisel plow ad-------my dad had a couple that they pulled behind the crawlers. (mechanical lift levers) Gotta swipe that one to my photo file-----got a summer job from the "Graham-Hoeme"; -----Daddy had a friend from the Rio Grande Valley up here doing some landforming in the summer of 1960. The friend stopped by looking for a chisel plow to borrow-----I helped him get hitched to his pick up. And----he asked where he might find a tractor driver. I immediately told him he wuz looking at one of the best around!!!! He laughed and said that me and his son Jack should get along great-------which we did. Worked with Ruben and Jack for two summers------Case tractors and Reynolds dirt scrapers. Deal wuz: will pay you $1.25/hr plus room and board------you and Jack will have to buy your own beer!!!!! (good enuff for me) Thanks for re-kindling my faded brain to a great experience. Need to run Jack down-----haven't heard from him in years. DD Quote
Steve C. Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Farmall57, apparently your dad was right. Around here, it would probably be pronounced "Graham Haymee". This is a pretty much German area, and the "oe" is usually pronounced like a long "a". Quote
twostepn2001 Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Farmall57, apparently your dad was right. Around here, it would probably be pronounced "Graham Haymee". This is a pretty much German area, and the "oe" is usually pronounced like a long "a". "Haymee" was the way everybody here in west Texas said it. If I remember right, they were first develpped in western Okla. then once they got popular and established, they moved to Amarillo and started production there. And I think eventually a manufacturer in Arkansas bought the rights to the name "Graham-Hoeme". Like I say I'm not 100% sure about none of this...lol Quote
Loadstar Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Gary, that Square Turn tractor does resemble the Bull Pinion alright. Since there was some interest in the Graham Hoeme, here is some more tillage. I think this one is unique to Sask. as they were built not too many miles from me at Southey, Sask. Quite popular in the sixties and unique with that front wheel design. Their rock pickers were popular too. One shows up at farm auctions once in a while. Quote
Old Binder Guy Posted October 12, 2013 Posted October 12, 2013 Gary, that Square Turn tractor does resemble the Bull Pinion alright. Since there was some interest in the Graham Hoeme, here is some more tillage. I think this one is unique to Sask. as they were built not too many miles from me at Southey, Sask. Quite popular in the sixties and unique with that front wheel design. Their rock pickers were popular too. One shows up at farm auctions once in a while. Ralph, Those Anderson Rock Pickers were down here. I remember a demonstration of them in the late 1950s or early 1960s on uncle Audie's place AND.... Farmall Kid has one at Silver Creek! I know i have a picture "Somewhere" but I can't find it right now. Gary Quote
Loadstar Posted October 13, 2013 Posted October 13, 2013 Ralph, Those Anderson Rock Pickers were down here. I remember a demonstration of them in the late 1950s or early 1960s on uncle Audie's place AND.... Farmall Kid has one at Silver Creek! I know i have a picture "Somewhere" but I can't find it right now. Gary My uncle had a share in one with some neighbours back in the sixties. They were no Degelman but still not a bad old picker compared to hand picking. Here is a poor copy of an IH tractor ad from the late sixties. Quote
ray54 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 There were some Anderson rock pickers around here.My one friend doesn't care for them,running a ground drive model got a 100+ lbs rock stuck in the pickup.Beat it with a big hammer and a pry bar for over an hour to get it out.The boss drives up,and what are you doing?That rock cannot be to big for this machine,jumps on tractor and lines up to pick it up and it jammed it up again.Gets off tractor and say got to get to town,see you later. I have Schulte picker which looks like it is a copy of your Delelman, and have never plugged it that a reverse of the rake chain would not spit it out again. Ray Quote
Big Bud guy Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 There were a few of these Graham Hoemes sold around here. My uncle had one in the sixties. Hard to imagine they made them up to 45 feet wide. Not many tractors other than a crawler would handle that. Ours would have had the spring trip shanks too considering the rocks we have here. From a 1949 ad. About 1/4 from my house sits a GH plow that actually wings up. Only one I have seen. 90% of them around here were the small ones 10-18ft used behind the common wheatland tractors of the 50s. Those pics in the ad could have almost been taken on our farm back in the day. This spring we scrapped our 22ft lever lift Graham and 17ft hydraulic lift. The 22ft was used behind our IH TD 14A until we bought a 24ft JD 250F to go with our JD 5010 in 1964. Still have that plow. I don't know when we bought the 17ft but it was used behind a 4020, JD 830, and possibly IH 600 and WD9 depending on how old it was. And it didn't start out 17ft either as we added shanks as the tractor got bigger. The weakness of the Graham plow was the "I" beam frame. The frame tended to twist if pulled real hard breaking sod or alfalfa with spikes. Course the engineers probably didn't have that in mind when building these plows. Quote
Loadstar Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Ray54 I have not used the Anderson picker but did not think much of the idea of having to drive over the rocks with the tractor. Bigbudguy, the frame design I beam sounds similar to another obscure name plow. The Jeoffroy that a neighbour owned , probablly fifties vintage, had I beam frame and it had cracking problems too. I don't have an ad handy for that one. Here is an interesting 1951 ad for Massey Harris front end loaders with their snow plow attachment. They sold a loader named the "Super Six" earlier but I don't see that name mentioned on this one. Unfortunately the whole ad would not fit on my scanner. Quote
Old Binder Guy Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Gary, that Square Turn tractor does resemble the Bull Pinion alright. Since there was some interest in the Graham Hoeme, here is some more tillage. I think this one is unique to Sask. as they were built not too many miles from me at Southey, Sask. Quite popular in the sixties and unique with that front wheel design. Their rock pickers were popular too. One shows up at farm auctions once in a while. Ralph, Mike tells me the Anderson Rock Pickers were manufactured in Helena, Montana. I don't remember where the plant used to be, but he mentioned where it was. Helena has rocks a plenty, so it was an easy sale here. This is a picture of Mikes. He didn't want it, but wanted the disk that went together in the sale. You can see it hasn't been used this week. When we were discussing the Graham-Hoeme chisel plows, I'd mentioned the old coil spring cultivators we used when I was a kid, for summer fallow. This gives you an idea of the old junk that made the Graham-Hoeme look so good to farmers. This hasn't been used this week either. And after that we had these types of coil shank cultivators or chisel plows. They worked, but not like the later Grahams. It has been used in the past couple of weeks! That's the disk behind this cultivator, that went with the Anderson Rock Picker in Mike's purchase. Gary Quote
Loadstar Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Ralph, Mike tells me the Anderson Rock Pickers were manufactured in Helena, Montana. I don't remember where the plant used to be, but he mentioned where it was. Helena has rocks a plenty, so it was an easy sale here. This is a picture of Mikes. He didn't want it, but wanted the disk that went together in the sale. You can see it hasn't been used this week. Gary Gary, that's interesting to know that Anderson manufactured in Montana as well. Probably a smart move considering it is rocky ground. Anderson also made a pretty good bale stacker. Your cultivator looks like my dad used to call the "stiff tooth cultivator" and they were common here as well. Although not much of a machine compared to their replacements. I think I have posted this one on another thread here but it does show one of the IHC cultivators . From a 1913 IHC note book I have. Quote
wheatking Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 I scanned a bunch of these IH ads a few years ago and saved them to disk. Now I wish I had put the dates on them as it would be more interesting . When did the "new 706, 806 " series become available? would be 1962 or 63 I believe they made the last one in 1967 Quote
Ron Cook Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Gary, that Square Turn tractor does resemble the Bull Pinion alright. Since there was some interest in the Graham Hoeme, here is some more tillage. I think this one is unique to Sask. as they were built not too many miles from me at Southey, Sask. Quite popular in the sixties and unique with that front wheel design. Their rock pickers were popular too. One shows up at farm auctions once in a while. Ralph, Mike tells me the Anderson Rock Pickers were manufactured in Helena, Montana. I don't remember where the plant used to be, but he mentioned where it was. Helena has rocks a plenty, so it was an easy sale here. This is a picture of Mikes. He didn't want it, but wanted the disk that went together in the sale. You can see it hasn't been used this week. Anderson Rock Picker right red_edited-1.jpg When we were discussing the Graham-Hoeme chisel plows, I'd mentioned the old coil spring cultivators we used when I was a kid, for summer fallow. This gives you an idea of the old junk that made the Graham-Hoeme look so good to farmers. This hasn't been used this week either. Cultivator coil spring red_edited-1.jpg And after that we had these types of coil shank cultivators or chisel plows. They worked, but not like the later Grahams. It has been used in the past couple of weeks! That's the disk behind this cultivator, that went with the Anderson Rock Picker in Mike's purchase. Gary coil shank chisel plow, 3-point disk harrow red_edited-1.jpg Gary, No rock pickers need where I live on the Missouri River bottom. But I sure could use a 3-point disc like that one. Has to be real handy for small patch work. Ron Quote
Big Bud guy Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Loadstar, on 13 Oct 2013 - 11:12 PM, said: Ray54 I have not used the Anderson picker but did not think much of the idea of having to drive over the rocks with the tractor. Bigbudguy, the frame design I beam sounds similar to another obscure name plow. The Jeoffroy that a neighbour owned , probablly fifties vintage, had I beam frame and it had cracking problems too. I don't have an ad handy for that one. Here is an interesting 1951 ad for Massey Harris front end loaders with their snow plow attachment. They sold a loader named the "Super Six" earlier but I don't see that name mentioned on this one. Unfortunately the whole ad would not fit on my scanner. Yes there were a few Jeoffroys around here too. Were those the one with the single spring on the shank? We also have an IH plow from the 50s. I don't know the model number but the frame is 3" by 3". It worked okay behind our tractors of the time but it is a little light for a chisel plow. It was also 17ft but I took it down to 13ft so I could pull it in front of a JD 14ft LZ drill. The JD 100 series with their 4"x4" frame built from the late 50s into the 60s was probably the best small plow back then. They still today bring $100 per foot at auctions were as $100 total is what a Graham or similar plow brings. Have a relative that pulled three 12 footers behind a D7 cat. Quote
Loadstar Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Yes there were a few Jeoffroys around here too. Were those the one with the single spring on the shank? We also have an IH plow from the 50s. I don't know the model number but the frame is 3" by 3". It worked okay behind our tractors of the time but it is a little light for a chisel plow. It was also 17ft but I took it down to 13ft so I could pull it in front of a JD 14ft LZ drill. The JD 100 series with their 4"x4" frame built from the late 50s into the 60s was probably the best small plow back then. They still today bring $100 per foot at auctions were as $100 total is what a Graham or similar plow brings. Have a relative that pulled three 12 footers behind a D7 cat. I can't recall but the Jeoffroy might have been a single spring trip. We also have a couple of JD 100s that my uncle owned. They had a weakness for wearing out shank pivot pins and just recently , a broken rockshaft. The green paint might hold it's value but having used both, I'd give preference to the Cockshutt 247. They wore well, had a good high lift for trash clearance and I have not broken one yet. Here is a little AC from 1952 . Not the type we ever saw much of around here. Quote
Old Binder Guy Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Ron, That is a neat little disk. It's just right in Mike's soil for his 300 Utility. Ralph, I was really amazed by the Allis Chalmers "Rumely" ad, showing "modern" tractors, but still including that old name. Gary Quote
Loadstar Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Ron, That is a neat little disk. It's just right in Mike's soil for his 300 Utility. Ralph, I was really amazed by the Allis Chalmers "Rumely" ad, showing "modern" tractors, but still including that old name. Gary It is interesting how long Allis Chalmers hung onto the Rumely name. Again in this 1950 tractor ad. Quote
A554 Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Yes there were a few Jeoffroys around here too. Were those the one with the single spring on the shank? We also have an IH plow from the 50s. I don't know the model number but the frame is 3" by 3". It worked okay behind our tractors of the time but it is a little light for a chisel plow. It was also 17ft but I took it down to 13ft so I could pull it in front of a JD 14ft LZ drill. The JD 100 series with their 4"x4" frame built from the late 50s into the 60s was probably the best small plow back then. They still today bring $100 per foot at auctions were as $100 total is what a Graham or similar plow brings. Have a relative that pulled three 12 footers behind a D7 cat. I can't recall but the Jeoffroy might have been a single spring trip. We also have a couple of JD 100s that my uncle owned. They had a weakness for wearing out shank pivot pins and just recently , a broken rockshaft. The green paint might hold it's value but having used both, I'd give preference to the Cockshutt 247. They wore well, had a good high lift for trash clearance and I have not broken one yet. Here is a little AC from 1952 . Not the type we ever saw much of around here. Loadstar, here is an ad for AC D272 tractor from the same era. i wonder if it is the same as in your ad. Quote
Loadstar Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Loadstar, here is an ad for AC D272 tractor from the same era. i wonder if it is the same as in your ad. It is possible. No specifications are listed in my ad other than that it is a model "CA" tractor. I am throwing out this ad for a really old stiff tooth cultivator. The Sylvester from 1906, along with their gasoline engine. . Quote
M Diesel Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 The D272 is listed as a 1957 -1960 machine, so likely a few years later. The CA is listed as 1950 to 1958. Quote
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