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  1. A couple of poor examples of a Nash. I took the photo of my future mother in-law, future wife, future father in-law back in the fall of 1959. Beyond their 1960 Ford Galaxy was Sharon's Nash. I forget the model. It wasn't the little Metropolitan, and it wasn't the big "Bath Tub" Nash either. The second photo was after I'd returned home From Fort Knox, Kentucky in the fall of 1962 sometime. The Pontiac Catalina with the 348 hp TriPower engine was one I drove out from the factory at Pontiac, Michigan. I'd traded in my older car while home on leave. They informed me when this car was ready to pick up. A couple of Montana Army buddies and I went after it in a friend's Ford Falcon. Anyway Sharon's Nash is somewhat visible on the other side of the Pontiac. Gary😉
  2. "Better Late Than Never?" I finally escaped the apartment and went to Silver Creek today! I'd made a note to take photos of the Prestolite torch of mine, or I probably would have forgotten, earlier when I was posting carbide and Prestolite posts. I'd mistakenly stated that I'd used a golf cart for it. It is NO golf cart. It was one of those little oxygen tank carts. Gary😉
  3. MacAR, you have as much right to be here as I do. I'm not the owner of the site, just an instigator. Gary😉
  4. Todd, I love that IH Tractor on an Illinois Farm photo! You and I have a way of collecting the same sorts of things! The entrenching tool at left is an early WWII. The folder at right came out later. I packed one of the folders for four years too. I found that digging a foxhole required some reconnaissance to find some easier digging. (And I never dug one under fire! Whew!) Somewhere I have one of those WWII military picks too. (That six-pack of Coke at left. That was the big cattle drive commemorative from 1989, when Montana Centennial Statehood came about. I still have that unopened six-pack.) Your antler mount is very tastefully done. Gary😉
  5. Boll weevils must be something like our "potato bugs" we raise here in Montana? If you plant potatoes, you have potato bugs. It sounds like if you plant cotton, you get boll weevils? Automatically? I think I have about 10 of those old DDT sprayers out at Silver Creek. I'm keeping a close eye on the cotton in my navel. If I see a boll weevil there I'll get one of those sprayers down and put some DDT in it and spray the heck out of them. I don't raise enough cotton to pay the Boll Weevil tax. Gary😉
  6. Edward, Thank you! It's always nice to know the real story behind photos. I got this from a Facebook site and it said none of the things you just said! Gary😉
  7. I thought I should check and see if this thread was still here? I don't know anything, but I'm feeling a bit better, but Sharon has it and I'm trying to take care of her, keep up the house a little bit, and learning to cook and launder more. I took her to Urgent Care at the hospital yesterday. I don't think I've been out to the shop for two weeks? That is the longest spell I think I've ever missed going out there? Just about anyway. I hope Anson is doing okay? He usually brings up some topic while I'm having a lull in thoughts. Maybe he has this "old age thing" going on like I'm having? I hope Wrangler is doing okay? I have a couple of horse photos for him. This first one of a lady in a buggy with single tree and a fly net on the horse. This is an old Texas Trail photo of a cowboy and cattle heading north. This is just planting cotton with a forward planter and a Farmall C. I know nothing about cotton strippers, as Anson already knows. But THIS might be them? A saloon and barber pole downstairs. The cotton is upstairs. On the balcony in this photo. I think this was years later when the local kids would do their Maypole on main street? I never did it, but maybe some old timers here have done it? The interior of a North Dakota "soddy" homestead shack. This is Ole Thorson's crew and I think this IHC tractor is a type A? Apparently they'd just finished a threshing set behind the barn? A little closer to Roger is this wooden wheel Stillwater return flue, built in Minnesota. Stillwater, Minnesota! It has the early internal tooth bull gearing, with a chain drive setup getting the pinion turning. Advance a few years and this is a grandson of the Stillwater engine pulling a bunch of engines at the Stillwater factory. This is a Northwest Thresher Company 51 hp steam engine showing off its muscle. An Advance steam engine is taking a break while the crew chopping corn poses for the camera. As a farm boy, I can relate to this picture. His dog and trike. Tools of his trade for a while. This John Deere A has suffered quite a bit, but on Facebook there were guys clamoring for it. And in worse shape is this IH Farmall H that was destroyed by a near 200mph tornado. I didn't get the location. An IH Farmall M is converted to wood gas in Osterangen, Sweden in 1942. I thought this was a cute advertisement for the IH Farmall Cub. I learned to drive on Dad's 1947 Cub. Just when we were getting headed to the field, the banker had to stop and check on his investments. A Super WD-9 and a Super W-4, well restored tractors, it would appear. I don't often do "pulling tractors" very often, but I was amused how they put a turbocharger on this Farmall M. I have hundreds of hours on an IH 300 Utility. I thought this one was superb. Mike's 300 Utility is still an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. It is the power for "the jack of all trades" there. Ed Loe's machinery and Ford automobile dealership at Pekin, North Dakota in 1915. I thought this old 1930 Model A Ford Fordor made an excellent Dust Bowl Refugee's transportation at a tractor show. Self explanitory. I'm pretty sure this fire truck at left is an R-170? Maybe it is an R-180? 1953 or 54. Then a GMC. The old fire truck pumper engine at right must be an American-LaFrance? Fire Department at Oakes, North Dakota. Since Mike and Pam sell farm fresh eggs, I had to post this one too. I'm sure these two old boys are related somehow? They are selling farm fresh eggs too. Gary😉
  8. Todd, that is sure a beautiful setting you took your family to. I like your stove too. I can't check the date on mine, but it must be about a 1964 or 65? I think the original box is in a WWII foot locker Mike has of his Grandpa Simpson's. I bought it new and Mike has it at his cabin. This last one with the gallon can "heater" fastened I'll need to take off so it can look like a stove. I think they are so neat. I'm glad you got a partner for that fabulous lantern of yours. Some things just go together. Abbott & Costello, Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, etc. Gary😉 PS: I've been stuck at home with Bronchopneumonia. I'm getting better after spending 4 hours in the ER yesterday afternoon. Sadly I brought it home to Sharon too. I'm doing much better with the meds they sent me home with.
  9. Showing off a bit here. This ol' senile duffer took this photo of a Great Falls, Montana plumber's cargo today. I used my computer skills to draw a sloppy black arrow to the valve of this plumber's Prestolite gas cylinder valve in the back of his pickup on the left side, here in Helena. We were stopped at a stop light and he started to pull away, but this iPhone 13 took a pretty good picture, before I had to move. Gary😁
  10. That had to be quite a job converting the carbide lights in this house to electrification? Our neighbor's house used to have carbide lights. Dad got many of the outdoor parts from the system. There was what would normally be classified as a "Rivited Lap Seam 'Boiler'," that the carbon part fit into. Dad never did anything with the carbon part but he had the boiler in his shop with a coal stoker in it. Sadly that 40'X80' shop had no insulation and so many knots were out of the siding that it was like looking at the stars at night, seeing daylight out through all of those small holes. Consequently, that stoker couldn't keep up with the shop's heat demand. So consequently, when I got my new shop built in 1976, I moved it to this well insulated shop and put a rocking grate setup under it and burned wood in it. It did a fine job there. This shop also had an overhead propane heater. So I could warm the place up in winter and keep it warm. I Know I have photos of the stove I put in there, but I probably have them in an old misplaced photo album and haven't scanned them? Either that or I didn't do a great job of naming the photo in the computer and can't find it because of that? Gary😢😭
  11. jeeper61, thank you for the thoughts and prayers. I'm afraid I'm going to make it after all! I can't let you guys all have the fun without me here. Gary😁
  12. That's what I thought too. Eating an apple. It looks like an apple core in his hand. Gary😁
  13. I realize this is comparing oranges to apples. They're both from trees and round. But I would almost bet that the famed Prestolite (acetylene gas) tanks may have preceded the oxygen cylinders? I couldn't believe that I couldn't come up with a photo of my Prestolite tank on a converted golf bag cart with my Prestolite soldering torch. I guess I'm getting too old to be trusted here, Anson? I had one on the farm that sold at auction. But I made this setup about a dozen years ago. (So, after I get over this cold [my daughter in-law says "Covid,"]) I'll be sure to get a photo and put it on here after the fact. But to save my bacon from frying, here is a Prestolite soldering iron that I have! I've never seen another one. Before the advent of the Prestolite tanks, most automobile companies furnished their cars with messy carbide generators. This is Roger's 1911 Model T Ford Open Runabout, sporting the generator he rebuilt and restored for it. (This is the Model T Roger has put in his will for me!) These drip water down into the carbide pellets in the lower tank. That builds pressure and furnishes the gas for the carbide headlights. That "white mud" in the lower tank is very messy stuff. I remember walking through the "mud puddle" Uncle Audie left, after washing out our carbide acetylene generator on the farm when I was about two or three. Mom was pi....d; well, she was darn mad for what I'd done to my shoes. This is a fancy "automobile" type Prestolite tank. They were sometimes nickel plated and looked pretty on the running board. They also had a gauge on the bottom end to show the automobile owner how much (or little?) he still had, in case he really needed to know! The generic soldering tanks of today don't have this fancy stuff. This is a right hand drive automobile with a Prestolite tank on the running board for operating the headlights. This is a 1913 Model T Ford Bakery Van with a Prestolite tank on the left running board. I don't believe Henry Ford furnished Prestolite tanks on his automobiles? He may have? But his ignition keys for a couple of years had a square hole punched in the keys for opening that Prestolite tank valve. So I don't know what this had to do with oxygen tanks for acetylene welding torches, but it does show that the development of pressurized tanks was going strong early on. Gary😁
  14. Anson, That cap is ambidextrous. When he's cutting iron, it is a "cutter's cap." When he's operating his steam traction engine it is an "engineer's cap." As far back as I can remember our acetylene generator and cart always had one of these (shown) large green oxygen bottles. That doesn't tell you how far back those bottles went though. Sorry. Gary😁
  15. Todd, That is some "bike" you had and the paint job. As a former automobile painter, I understand the meter runs fast when you are getting THAT fancy. But I never painted anything near that amount. That's spectacular. I did have a two tone 1953 Harley-Davidson "74" Duo Glide. I sure wish I'd have kept it. I've dreamed a couple times over the years that I just thought I'd gotten rid of it, but actually hadn't. Then I woke up.😢 My uncle took this photo. He was trying to get our house and his 1957 Plymouth Fury in the picture and me in it riding past. He pushed the button on his Argus 35mm camera a split second too soon. My 1971 GMC Sierra Grande pickup cost $6,900 and I added chrome wheels and Allstate (Michelin) radial tires. I was afraid to mention to anyone that I paid that much for a pickup back then. In this photo we were headed up to the Little Belt Mountains with the kids camping. This is an earlier photo of me with my FIL's WWI army tent, his R-120 and I had Dad's IH Scout. I KNOW that Coleman stove of mine was inside the tent. I counted, and I have six Coleman gas irons. This is that Coleman Iron I'd mentioned that I bought in the box. And the stuff that came with it. Gary😁
  16. Todd, I love collecting Coleman things. I've never been accused of being normal, you know! I also still have the green Coleman two burner camp stove that many camping and hunting trip meals were cooked on. I also bought it with Gold Strike Stamps early in our marriage. I have another like it that has been converted to propane from 20# bottles. I bought a Coleman single burner stove probably 50 years ago. I used to use it for making coffee when ice fishing in my father in-law's ice fishing shack. Mike has it at his cabin. I bought another one a couple years ago that some fisherman had adapted a gallon can with the ends cut out for his ice fishing heater. I've yet not bothered to remove the can, but it is at the left. A couple of other green Coleman two mantle lanterns need a globe. You and I seem to have a few parallels with things that intrigue us? Gary😉
  17. Art from Coleman, I don't know anything about his shade tree? I think a young mechanic uses it to change engines in his old jalopies? And, it does appear there are "road apples" there at the saloon. Todd, I don't know what you paid for that lantern, but it is sure a dandy with all of those accessories and the boxes. I did buy one a few weeks ago at a junk shop on Fort Harrison. It has the Coleman globe, a flint striker and came with extra mantles. Did I over pay for it? They got $5 out of me. It is probably the newest Coleman lantern I have? I have several red single mantle Colemans that aren't in this photo, plus a couple of the green double mantles. I think five of these have the nickel gas tanks? A couple more things, A US Army Coleman lantern and a US Army white gas Coleman stove, with metal case. This first red single mantle Coleman, with the igniter, I paid for with Gold Strike Stamps when we were first married in 1963. It lit a lot of camping trips for us when the kids were growing up. Mike now has it at his cabin. I think I have about five of these Coleman gas irons. One (not pictured) is in the box with all of the accessories. (I didn't get it for $5 though!) A Coleman percolator for camping. I recently got this Coleman lantern case. I'm not sure what brand these gas stoves are? I'll have to check, I guess? Todd, I love that half cab CJ5 you had. That had to be a hard one to part with? I've had "Jeep ideas" pass through my head, but I'm too old and they are too expensive for me now. Gary😉
  18. I don't know one darn thing. So I'm throwing some photos from Facebook on here. Anson, I don't think they are building a midway or a runway here with horses? It's likely a highway? They really didn't need a highway. The cars were negotiating it satisfactorily it appears? Long before the highway above, this was the trail westward, it appears? Before those travelers came along, this was a little girl on that road. It would sure appear her daddy was a darn good hunter, with all of those "elk ivories" laced to her dress. Long after the highway was completed, the railroad felt they needed to come through as well. This is a section gang. Railroads brought depots and elevators to some towns. This is the depot at Moore, Montana on the Jawbone Railroad. About this time the Milwaukee bought the Jawbone. That Model T Ford is one of the very first and is a rare "Tourster," a touring car without any doors. L.M. "Pappy" Dyer was the Moore Depot agent for many, many years. Moore, Montana had four elevators at one time. The Jawbone RR steam locomotive is stopped at the water tower tank, filling the tender. The Montana elevator at left was the first grain elevator in Montana's 100 mile diameter Judith Basin. This is Glengarry, Montana where I grew up. They had two elevators. For a little while, they had two elevators. But shrunk back to just one before my lifetime. Tiny little Moore, Montana had four grain elevators at one time. Otto Briese, left, ran the Greeley Elevator for years. Jim Mundy (R), son of my first two years band instructor, is Otto's hired man. There was much steam engine traffic on Lewistown, Montana's Main Street before it was paved. This is a building being moved ca 1910 near the Fergus County Courthouse. I believe that is a 15-30 Avery gas tractor, a 30 hp undermounted Avery steam engine and a ZZ Geiser Peerless pulling it. Paving Main Street in Lewistown, Montana began in 1912. I believe that is a steam powered concrete mixer? Even a pontoon bridge was used in this North Dakota Red River Crossing. It would even hold up Model T Ford sedans. Building modern concrete highways meant you needed to mount a Greco concrete dryer on your Fordson to dry that highway concrete faster. When I was a younger man, this is how they would have built that highway, using Cat DW21s All of that trail riding also brought breaking the prairie like this "honyocker" in eastern Montana. Some farmers wanted their sod broke faster than one bottom at a time. Some was broke with modern methods though. This Canadian engine was a straw burner, even plowing. I think this is an IHC tractor that got in on the action? It's likely pulling a Parlin & Orendoerff, now IHC plow? I don't know the horsepower of this Minneapolis gas tractor. I'll bet Roger knows though?!! The Model T Ford Touring Car is a 1916 though! Montana even went through the same growth (and in recent years demise [farms bought up by one corporation]) as North Dakota. After breaking the prairie, crops were produced and harvested. This is a 36 hp M. Rumely engine in central Montana. Barn threshing on an established farm with a 45 hp Case steam engine. IHC got in on the harvest too. That's a lot of "stack threshing" to do. A Gaar Scott steam engine is powering a double blower threshing machine. Farms growth brought towns. False front buildings too. Winter was an obstacle sometimes too for those settlers. The farmers figured out how to make winter work with them. The banks were never wooden, false front buildings though. Ready to help the farmers. Ready to loan money and collect interest were the tellers inside. Even little Buffalo, Montana's First State Bank was (is still) brick. This was in 1929, believe it or not. Dust Bowl Refugees heading to the West Coast for "work" but withdrawals were impossible with a locked bank. The First State Bank of Buffalo, Montana today. Town growth brought implement dealerships. The Judith Hardware in Lewistown, Montana also dealt in Flour City gas tractors. Town growth also brought dealerships like this IHC McCormick-Deering dealership with their 8-16 Moguls. And when farm equipment broke down, they needed the local blacksmith to repair it. Either permanently, or until parts could be telegraphed (sometimes even telephoned for) for and their arrival on the train. The same went for boiler repairs. They were generally done by a local who was willing to go into business and tackle repairing boilers. That engine is a Minneapolis return flue straw burner. This blacksmith shop is re-tubing or re-fluing a Minneapolis return flue steam engine. Tubes were the most frequent part of boiler equipment to stop a steam engine from working. Towns brought Saloons. This fancy one was at Jordan, Montana. This was Charlie Russell's hangout for a few years at Utica, Montana, the area where he became a cowboy. He may have even slept off a night or two in the Judith Hotel? The interior of the Elkhorn Saloon in Lewistown, Montana. The Hamilton-Clingan Saloon at Kendall, Montana. GR Hamilton was my great uncle. He had the saloon operating around the clock, as the two large gold mines in Kendall ran three shifts. So a miner could get off work in the middle of the night, stop in and have a cold one. Upstairs held another business operated by ladies. That was available 24 hours as well. Towns also brought coffee shops too. This one is also a grocery store as well. Men would likely really love shopping in this hardware store. The women probably would NOT? While the men shopped above, the ladies would likely go to this hardware instead? Or in later years, this hardware for the ladies? The Montana Hardware company in Lewistown, Montana opened in 1892. Grandpa Yaeger's former employer, steamboat magnate TC Power, was a principle owner. An interior shot inside the Montana Hardware in Lewistown. The ladies would surely want to go next door to this Montana Hardware to the Dry Goods store next door, the Lewistown Commercial Co.? Since they sell firearms, the men will stop over to get their wife. And maybe a new Winchester 1886 in 40-82 caliber? After all, it is a new necked down "wildcat" caliber made off of the 45-90 brass. Even little ol' Moore, Montana where I graduated high school and found my "going on 60 year" wife had a hardware store. Andy Matthews sold IHC McCormick Deering engines too. Andy Matthews also built the Office Bar. A prideful thing that area ranchers and city folks could say, "I'm going to the office." Andy Matthews (R) even sold buggies and harness at Moore. Some towns even got a church! This was in Glengarry, Montana in my younger years. The church was also used for School programs. This was me there at age 11, playing my squeezebox. A McCormick-Deering 15-30 (or could be a 22-36?) has replaced the steam engine on this farm, likely. McCormick-Deering put a lot of farms on steel wheels and removed the horseshoes (that stayed on the horse's feet) from the fields. I would often find old horseshoes when summer fallowing on the farm. Sometimes I'd even get a "ringer" on a chisel plow or rod weeder shank! This woman is so tickled her man got a 10-20 McCormick-Deering that she can't wipe the smile off of her face! This couple are proving how stout the tin hoods were on their 10-20. Roger, is that an "under seat" cylindrical Model T Ford gas tank mounted on top? Automobile dealerships sprung up too. The Fergus Motor Company, Lewistown, Montana. A new Ford Model (TT) Ton Truck could replace the team and wagon on the farm for hauling grain. (Plus you can always tell when a Model T Ford is getting lubrication! Check underneath the engine's oil pan...) Then after buying the new Ford Model TT Ton Truck, have a cabinet builder make you a cab and a box for it. This was the "last" Model T Ford built, the 15,000,000th. A well established farm has moved up to a McCormick-Deering Farmall Regular! Towns became modern. Automobiles, pickups, electricity, brick stores, cafes, telephones, you name it. This farm family is making a big splash with this Maytag dealership. They're trading off their two cycle, gasoline powered washing machine for a brand new Maytag electric wringer washer. What a day this was! Thi This is a farm still threshing in 1945. I can't make out the steel wheel tractor from that exhaust pipe and steering wheel? This is a more modern Jeep shown, but after WWII, the Jeep was not only promoted as a vehicle that would "go anywhere" AND do light farming. I wish I had a dollar for every hour I spent getting cows, shooting gophers and climbing hills with Dad's 1947 half cab jeep. The only "rollover" I've ever been in was that Jeep. Brother Bill was a 6th grader driving us to the Glengarry one room school in 1950. It was icy, we were climbing the hill out of Beaver Creek valley that curved to the bench between Cottonwood and Beaver creeks. The rear wheels broke traction on the ice in that curve and it spun around, then the wheels "grabbed gravel" and we went straight into the ditch and it climbed an embankment then rolled back down. This is the only picture I have of Dad's 1947 half cab Jeep. The cab is sticking out of the snow drift between the two buildings. Not our Jeep nor our year, but I remember the Cottonwood and Beaver Creek bench road looking just like this in the 1949-50 School year. This was the Glengarry one room school house (and teacherage) I attended for eight years. This was my first grade year at the school. Brother Bill second from left and I'm in the black and white plaid shirt at right, with my mouth making an "O"! Regardless of the brand of tractors (IH were definitely more exciting!) it was always a happy time when a tractor was delivered to the farm. This one is an Oliver. I just loved this barn! And so I don't lose track of this thread as IH Tractor on a Montana Farm, I'm posting this one from several years ago at Mike's Silver Creek place. Gary😉
  19. Already, there was someone saying, "The World's Most Expensive Tractor?" The 150 hp Case cost 1.5 million dollars. Are we going to have to get a CPA to go over the books of Kory's? $1.5M sounds like an awfully "round" figure to me? I don't care which Case is the most expensive. It's a new benchmark. I remember when Dennis bought this Case 30-60 above for a half mil around 20 years ago, and I wondered after he died if his wife could get that much back out of it? That's out the window! Roger, Gerald Parker mentioned that these 30-60 Case engines were built in a factory in Minneapolis. Have you heard anything like that? I'm just wondering, as I'd never heard that. Gary😙
  20. This is NOT an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. Roger, I'm assuming this was Dennis' 30-60 Case gas tractor? Gary
  21. jeeper61, I finally remembered to put most of the rest of the Tyler crawler tractors here. Of the Allis Chalmers crawlers, this LO is the scarce one. It was a Hesselman(sp?) gasoline-diesel engine and used a long electrode spark plug to fire the gasoline, and I'm NOT sure if it had something to go with the diesel fuel as well? Max Tyler gave me one of the LO A-C's spark plug for my spark plug collection. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tooting my own horn here. Sorry, but my Spark Plug Collection. Roger Byrne even gave me two IHC Titan spark plugs for this board my son made me. I collected my first two spark plugs when I was 6. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A 35 Allis Chalmers with steering wheel. I'm not sure what this later AC was? And I don't know what the Monarch crawler is at left? I know Max had one of these Cleveland Tractors similar to this. I don't have a photo, I guess? I'm not sure what the Cletrac crawlers are on the far side of this W-30 McCormick-Deering. And this McCormick-Deering is also an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. This is the late Max Tyler trying out an early Cletrac 35 crawler beside his Quonset shop. Max had this John Deere-Lindeman crawler. They had two Fordson conversions. This is the standard Trackson conversion I've seen the most of. This is a more uncommon conversion of a Fordson. Mike Tyler is on it at a Lewistown, Central Flywheeler's show a few years back. I don't think I've missed too many of their crawlers. Especially if I had a photo of them. Gary😁
  22. Art From Coleman sent me this book of Floyd Clymer's so graciously. These books were one of the very first steam traction engine books available when the "hobby" began in the late 1940s into the early 1950s. I remember looking at my old friend and mentor, Charlie Tyler's book in 1954. Thank you for your generosity and thinking of Old Binder Guy like this Art! Thank You, your generosity is greatly appreciated. Gary😁
  23. This flue roller doesn't appear to have angled rollers. A lot of the real old ones weren't angled. I have the straight roller and angled rollers. The angled ones are nice that they walk the tapered pin in. The straight ones you have to turn them a couple rounds, then tap the tapered pin in some more, then roll some more. Boiler tubes or flues are seamless, unlike pipe. And a two inch flue will fit inside of a two inch pipe, since tubes are measured outside diameter. Pipe sizes are the inside diameter. Tube walls come in different thickness too. The thinner ones transmit heat to the water better than thick tubes. Sometimes the thought is that thicker ones will outlast the thinner ones. That's not necessarily so. They can, but they don't always. The water used in the boiler makes a lot of difference too. Some (alkali, for instance) will eat out tubes (and boilers too) faster than a soft water. This is my angled flue roller. I use a half inch, reversible electric drill. I made the tapered center pin. The other tool is a pneumatic beading tool. The "ladies slipper" is rotated around the portion of the tube that is necessary to be left about 3/16" to 1/4" protruding out beyond the tube sheet. It violently vibrates and "hammers, bends and beads" the end of the tube. That is considered as part of the end to end strength in holding the tube sheets parallel against the steam pressure. After rolling a 2" tube in this Case boiler. Inside the firebox end of a Reeves boiler. I've spent days inside of this end of the boiler. I'm too old anymore, and hurt too soon when getting inside. AND, since Covid, I doubt I'll fit through the firebox opening anymore? Maybe slathering with lard and using a shoe horn, I might be able to? OBG, Old Binder Guy, Gary😁
  24. ray54, I remember how proud Max Tyler was that he'd gotten one of the originals that were were ordered by the US Forest Service. I don't remember if it came from Montana or west of here? I can sure understand how building counterfeits would sure be an easy build, other than the tinwork with the D5 on the sides of the radiator. Gary😉
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