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  1. Roger, Anson is going to have to order those high compression pistons. At my age, I'm stuck with a collapsed piston. Gary😉 PS: I thought the least this young lady could do is at least have an IH Farmall in her photos? We have to keep it IH Tractors here.
  2. You beat me to it, Ron Cook! That radiator ornament is a "Dodge Ram!" Gary
  3. I was out at son's shop today and took some more photos of Annie's quirks as an earlier 1939 Farmall H. This first picture shows part of that sheared steel plate Fred B mentioned. Also he earlier mentioned the straight strap brake locking "flipper." The early IHC ampere gauge and light switch. I think the "round ball" air cleaner screen was used quite a few years? The radiator water cap. The radiator cap removed. It's non pressurized. The radiator fill neck is larger in diameter and the knuckle is inward. The later pressurized radiator fill neck is smaller in diameter and and the knuckle is outward. This is a replacement aluminum "FARMALL" emblem. The original was stamped tin. I wish I'd kept it. When I repainted it in the early 1960's, I wanted a better looking emblem, and I was ignorant of the decal kit I got too. Annie loves to get outside and stretch her legs occasionally. OBG, 😉 Gary
  4. Anson, we've all stepped in a cow pie and forgot when walking on Mom's carpet. Nobody's going to be critical about you here, friend! I'll make sure of that. We're just one big coffee klatch here and we've all done things we later thought about and thought, "Maybe I shouldn't have....." Gary😉 PS: you leave a very empty chair at the coffee klatch table, so don't do that!
  5. Randy Sohn, I didn't realize there was two different sets of decals when I repainted Annie. The IH "man on the Farmall" emblem didn't come out until after WWII. Somewhere around 1948? And we never used distillate on our farm. Always gasoline. This was the sign over Bourke Motor & Implement Company when Annie was a newer tractor. A friend still owns the sign in Lewistown. I apologize for taking this thread on a "bunny trail." This is why that sign above is coveted by central Montanans. The signature of our local sign painter of the late 1920's and up into the early 1950's. Ed McGivern painted this sign exactly 2 weeks before I was born! I remember him painting gold leaf names on office doors (doctors and attorneys, etc.) in Lewistown when I was a boy. He was a "frumpy" little man. This was his sign shop office in a little "hole" on Main Street of Lewistown. If any of you are interested in firearms and history, Ed McGivern was the fastest gun alive at that time. He put out a book, "Fast & Fancy Revolver Shooting" on his shooting techniques. He was called back to Washington DC to train the FBI and multiple law enforcement agencies, in his accuracy techniques and fast drawing of firearms. This is a photo of him on September 4, 1931 at the Central Montana Fair in Lewistown. With a Smith & Wesson revolver (Automatics wouldn't function quickly enough for his needs). He's shooting five clay pigeons thrown in the air at once. They are visibly, each broken with bullets. Ed and his son travelled the fair circuit around Montana in the 1930's. My late father in-law worked with Ed's son at a Marshall-Wells store in Great Falls for a while. Ed's son's favorite trick of his dads was, he'd throw up a 3/4" flat washer (hole diameter) and Ed would shoot. His son would pick up the washer and announce, "See! It went through the hole!" Of course the rodeo announcers would play along with them. "Sure... It went through the washer..." Then Ed's son would take a postage stamp out of his pocket, lick it, and paste it on the washer. He'd throw that up and there'd be a bullet hole through the postage stamp!! Another was cutting a playing card in two, edgeways in the air. I'd encourage any of you with interest in handgun shooting to Google Ed McGivern and Fast & Fancy Revolver Shooting. He held the world's record for several decades in South Dakota. I don't remember exactly, but I think he shot five shots after drawing from a holster hitting a target the size of a man's hand in 2/5ths of a second, timed, at about 20 feet. Now back to Annie! This was a picture of her when a friend and I went back to central Montana and got her hauled to the Flathead Valley in northwest Montana, where we lived for nearly 30 years, and my retirement. Notice, as a working girl, she had lights, a Donaldson pre-cleaner, still had an IH part number muffler, the replaced seat was still like new, I'd replaced the steering wheel with a later one, and it still had that worn out old mowing machine on it. OBG Gary😉
  6. vtfireman85, I'm glad I could contribute something of interest for you. My earliest recollection of Farmalls on our farm were Regulars and F-20's. But then there was one brilliant "new lady," Annie! I wish I could answer your question about overhauls etc. She spent about 20 years on my uncle's farm about 40 miles away. Dad owned pasture with them and to help with the haying Annie was one thing Dad contributed to their feeding hay to his cows. I know Annie had a worn out mowing machine on it. When I got her back, in the late 1960's, I rebuilt the mower. I know they'd given her a valve job. I'm the one who last painted her and put the wrong decals on. I didn't realize there was a difference as a youngster. If she had to go back to work as a main tractor, I'd give her a valve job, but she's semi retired. I wouldn't know when those grip ring tires have fallen from use as OE? OBG
  7. Well this "IH submarine thread" was down on page 4. Before I forget... Troy Vetsch, thank you for posting about those boilers at the Mayo Clinic there in Rochester. I like how they have their hospital rooms set up too, Troy. This is a new one for me. This Farmall F-20 "Cane Special." I'm not from "cane country," however my wife walks with hers occasionally. I like this gray WD-40 McCormick-Deering diesel tractor. If I were 30 years younger, I'd have probably looked for one? Here is a Waterloo steam engine threshing. The work clothes tractor appears to be a MDTA? I am quite sure this is a W-4 and not a W-6 tractor turning this threshing machine? One of the IH tractor sites on Facebook apparently had some kind of contest going. I bumped into this photo of a Farmall Super H. And there was this picture. I thought it would have been a better photo if they'd have included an IH tractor, but to each his own? Last but not least is this photo of a 1468 IH Farmall with that signature V-8 diesel engine. I remember these brand new in the "bull pen" lot, when I worked at Bourke Motor & Implement Co. in Lewistown, Montana in the 1970's. Gary😀
  8. Hey guys. I'm no expert, but our 1939 Farmall H, number FBH 681 was on our farm, four years before I got there, and I'm no kid. Her name is "Annie." It was bought new by widow, Anna Stilson for her sons to hay with. Before it was a year old, she traded it back to Bourke Motor & Implement Company in Lewistown, Montana for a Farmall M. Bourke's immediately contacted Dad and his brothers (as was common with that dealership) to see if they were interested for this tractor in 1940. I think this photo may show Annie, the third one back, behind Bourke Motor's two Farmall M's in this 1939 parade on Lewistown's Main Street. Fred Bourke Sr. was driving the first Farmall M. All of them had an early style battery box, battery and starting system with generator. None of them had lighting systems. Back when I used Annie on a daily basis, I put a lighting system on it. But in semi retirement, I removed the lights, since they hadn't been original. Apparently skid ring Goodrich Silvertown tires were used on the 1939's? Apparently I will post photos I have and try to explain some things. This is the serial number boss on the engine. FBH 681. I don't have the original seat on Annie. I replaced the original back in the 1970's when I worked for Bourke Motor & Implement Co. as a parts man. I have an original. They had black leather riveted on. The leather was long gone, other than a couple little scraps. This also shows the seat frame. Please understand Annie has been repainted and has been a working tractor all along. She's in "semi retirement" now. It originally had shutters and the shield around the distillate or kerosene manifold. I don't have them anymore. This is a tiny glimpse from the IH Archives, of a black leather covered 1939 Farmall seat. When I put lighting on Annie, I did install this original light switch panel and ammeter. Annie has had the belly pump as long as I can remember. I don't know if it came on it originally, or whether Dad and his brothers added that? The seat frame from the rear, and the dip in the transmission cover. The 1939 steering wheel is like the replacement I installed on it. It was a "F-20 carryover." This photo also shows a replaced "choke cable" that is the magneto kill switch. Another view of the deck and belt pulley. This is the side of the hood and the early magneto with the cable kill switch. Another view of the magneto kill switch. The upper photo and this photo show the "bayonet twist nuts" that hold the grille onto the radiator frame. A wrench or screwdriver will twist the fasteners. This is the early style Power Takeoff. They were flat and had a smaller spline for the PTO, like the early Ford 9-N tractors have. I have an adapter so it can be used on "modern equipment," such as the McCormick PTO Binder. At right is a bolt with threads protruding out of the bolt head. There is a nut on it. The original PTO cover was like an older "juice can" with a tab that bolted to the outer bolt of that stud. Annie has 10-36 rear tires. They are held onto the rim with a separate ring. I couldn't tell you if the rims were originally red or the "cadmium plating" they appear to have. Maybe #681 is newer than the red rims? I know there are other things like a non pressurized radiator cap. I don't know what I did with the original gas cap, when I received the replacement baffle cap from CaseIH? I'd assume it is in our junk somewhere? The only last obvious thing I can think of is the two oil lever petcocks on the oil pan. They are brass and "L" shaped, not like the later diamond style. I hope I've helped. Annie does get a bath occasionally. Some of Annie's light duty "work." She pulls the water tank wagon when we thresh each August. She helps seed the oats. Annie on the buzz saw for steam engine firewood cutting. Before I forget, I'm posting this 1939 ad for new Farmall tractors. Everything is red; including the mufflers. I don't know if that is an artist's concept, or a fact that the wheel rims were also red? I don't know if those white looking stripes on the grille were accurate or not either? Remember... If it isn't a McCormick-Deering, it isn't a Farmall! I hope this posts okay, as I'm not as adept as I used to be here on Red Power. Old Binder Guy, OBG, Gary😉 PS: And, by the way, Annie is an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm too!
  9. Todd, I'm always pleased anytime Troy Vetch jumps on this "moving train." Even for just a short time. I've always believed in helping young, interested (kids) people with the old iron hobby I enjoy. Troy, I wasn't aware that you worked at this Mayo Clinic plant. That looks like an interesting place to work. It's unbelievable (I believe you!) the amount of pressure those water tube boilers operate under. I remember when Abe Bronson, an old Great Northern Railway retired conductor I used to coffee with, told of a steam turbine locomotive that came through Whitefish, Montana (where we lived at that time) after WWII. It was pulling a troop train, delivering troops home. I believe it was 1946? Abe said the boiler carried 700 PSI working pressure. After the locomotive stopped, the fireman got out with a "corn broom." Lifting it up and down as he slowly walked around the locomotive, he was checking for steam leaks. Abe said at 700 psi, the steam vapor was invisible and it would cut a man wide open if he walked into that leak. So I've had lots of respect for high pressure steam. The highest steam pressure I've ever worked with is 175 psi. But I'm an old guy, working with old iron! Troy Vetsch is no newcomer to steam operations though. This is him on the late Bud Budinski's Advance steam engine. The guy in the choo choo cap behind is none other than our Roger Byrne! Roger has been a phenomenal mentor to Troy, I know from just observing. Troy was a very willing candidate though! At least Troy is not "Texting and driving" that Advance! Troy has McCormick Deering tractors to play with too. He and his grandfather have gathered some nice toys. These two are a McCormick T-20 TracTracTor and a 15-30. Here Troy is driving Roger's 1912 "melon hauling" IHC AutoWagon at a show. There's that "cap" again... Troy, I couldn't tell if you were texting or digging out a sliver? That's not a bad thing. When Roger took me there, he took this photo of me on the 20 hp Port Huron simple, talking to my wife in Montana. Don't wait too long to come back here with us old guys, Troy! Gary😀
  10. 12_Guy, you are very correct about a differential. It is on the countershaft (upper) and the right set of gearing that has the inner plates that cover the bevel pinions inside the bevel plates. You can see a hole in the engine mounting frame where the steering wheel shaft would go down to the steering gear. That Gear at the right. Gary😉
  11. Roger, I know so little about Wood Bros. equipment. But I had a down side I was going to let lie. The peanut threshing machine, I've learned with the rest of "us" that it is a Wood Bros. While checking my files for "Wood Bros." I came up with this ad that I saved to my computer sometime in the past. I've only been on one Wood Bros. steam engine in my life. This one was driven from Helena, over McDonald Pass of the Continental Divide, and down to near Avon, Montana. Austin Monk knew about it, so on the way home from Belgrade one year, we came through Helena and went to look at this engine. It was in a shed that it barely fit in. The old man (and a remote brother) wanted a new Dodge diesel pickup for it. The grouters were all worn off. He wouldn't allow anyone to remove a hand hole to see inside the boiler. You had to almost assume from the grouters, it was a shot boiler too? Well after the old men (he and his brother) died, this man's daughter sold it to a man in Iowa for $12,000. I talked to him on the phone. I asked him what shape the boiler was in. He said, "It's like new!" If we'd known that, something may have transpired and it stayed in Montana? But it belongs in Iowa, since it was built there. Now back to my "question" about Wood Bros. steam engines and your comment "a very stout, heavy built engine." I agree the run of the mill Woods Bros. engines are heavy built and stout. However.... My cousin married a daughter of Olaf Reppe at Winifred, Montana. Olaf and his brother Oren Reppe owned a 30 hp "Double Geared" Woods Bros. engine. I never saw it. My brother found it from the air in his early days of flying solo in a J-3 Piper Cub. I understand there are now two of those 30 hp double geared Wood Bros. steam engines extant. The literature would make one think they are the strongest engines ever built. I will say that Wood Bros. built the ONLY TRUE "double geared" steam engine, this 30 hp. All other "double geared" steam engines (including Reeves, JI Case and Minneapolis, plus the rest of them) drove from one "Master Pinion" on the crankshaft. Wood Bros. 30 hp had a master pinion on both sides of the crankshaft and each drove its own set of gearing to each driver wheel. The concept is astounding! I I thought maybe I had photos of both Wood Bros. 30 hp engines? I don't. The two photos I have are of the same one. My late Iowa friend Bob Jacoby gave me this black & White of the engine of John Lane's. This color photo is from Jim Evans, another Iowan friend of Roger's and mine. What I would have bet was one of the stoutest plowing engines on earth, the double geared (single cylinder) Wood Bros. 30 hp was at Mt. Pleasant, Iowa some years ago. It hasn't been run since. The reason? They broke multiple gears in it. I'm not sure of the status of the other engine and I don't know which one had its parts from the Reppe Brother's Woods Bros. 30 hp double geared engine on it? Gary😉
  12. Thanks Fred! I'd say you nailed it alright. I'm just not familiar with peanut farming, other than I quit farming when a peanut farmer was putting me out of business in 1990. Gary😢
  13. Roger, this one is all yours. It is different than a normal grain threshing machine, with those long tubes on each side. I have no idea who built it and I live a long ways away from peanut country. I don't have Jimmy Carter's phone number so I'll just have to go along with Twostepn2001, wondering too. Gary
  14. None of this stuff is from Facebook! An 83 year old coffee buddy of mine and I drove to Great Falls to the annual Toy Show at the fairgrounds. I bought a few miniscule things in the tool line, but I did get some neat photos, even if I do say so myself. I was really taken by this 1927 IHC S-Model truck. The wood was well rotted in the cab and the box, but the young man who bought it did about what I did when I bought our 1925 Model TT Truck back in 1954. He put in water, gas, changed the oil, aired up the tires, put a battery in it, started it and drove it away! A front view. A rear view. An interior view. . And a view under the hood of the Lycoming six cylinder flathead engine. Now this is a John Deere Tractor on a Pennsylvania Farm. The man who owns it moved to Montana and brought this tractor from his father's collection. A JD 60 Orchard! A view inside the Orchard cockpit. Toy Show organizer, Gary Larson always brings several tractors. This one is a Farmall H Demonstrator. This is Gary's standard IH Farmall H. Just another IH Tractor on a Montana Farm, I guess? I think Gary Larson owns something like 30+ IH tractors and crawlers. I'm pretty sure this is also his IH Farmall 200. A full view. I don't know who invited the politician to the Toy Show, but "he" was there. Gary😀
  15. I even sent Anson an email, but haven't heard anything back. I sure hope he reconsiders his former decision. I've never seen him or shaken his hand, but I sure consider him a friend. "...... Shane....... Come Back!!!" (You have to be a little older to recognize that line.) A few things I found on Facebook. What is this IH Truck? I was thinking it has to be a KB-10 single axle? I sure don't know. Somebody will know!! This is how I remember truckers as a kid. I remember going to Eddies Corner (near Moore, Montana!) and watching the Freightways drivers and their Freightliners, and other brands I can't remember. The guys wore these caps, some wore uniforms, and drank coffee there before heading on down the road. I had a good friend who worked in the EC service station. And my (now) wife worked in the restaurant as a waitress (for .50 cents an hour!). These guys are driving IH Trucks. I think this is a Farmall M? It's in belgium and I forget what they said it was hauling. It has fenders, belt pulley and wide front axle. I can usually tell an M from an H, but this one is puzzling to my old mind. This is a Farmall M that somebody here in Montana restored and is using it as their site photo. It looks better and cleaner than the Farmall's I'm used to! Gary😉 PS: It could even live on a farm? That would make it an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm.
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