Big Bud guy Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 2 hours ago, Cool1566 said: Wasn't the JD version made by Hesston? No Quote
Big Bud guy Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 Little history on JD stack wagons in the first picture. I have a 1981 hay brochure that only shows the 200 in the lineup. Sales must have fallen off pretty fast in just 6-7 years. Don't know when the last year for JD stack wagons was. 2nd picture is a feeding table for the stacks. I actually saw one in person at a local consignment auction once. Probably a collectors item by now or should be. Can't be too many around. Quote
cedar farm Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 A couple guys thought they would try them on corn stalks instead of round baling them. They just fell apart. Quote
dale560 Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 8 hours ago, cedar farm said: A couple guys thought they would try them on corn stalks instead of round baling them. They just fell apart. Yes corn stalk stacks needed to be hauled home inside machine. Quote
dale560 Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 One thing the stackers worked really good for was picking up these chaff piles in the fields. Years ago they used to pull these chaff wagons and blowers behind the combines to collect wheat and probably barley,oats chaff. They made little piles of chaff out in field and the stack wagon worked perfect to suck up 6x6 x3 foot tall piles they left. If you look closely at picture you will see F gleaner with the setup. They ran setups on both combines for a few years until dad got his 815. The chaff was high in protein plus had weed seeds in it and broken kernels so cows loved it. Quote
Lazy WP Posted September 7, 2025 Posted September 7, 2025 28 minutes ago, dale560 said: One thing the stackers worked really good for was picking up these chaff piles in the fields. Years ago they used to pull these chaff wagons and blowers behind the combines to collect wheat and probably barley,oats chaff. They made little piles of chaff out in field and the stack wagon worked perfect to suck up 6x6 x3 foot tall piles they left. If you look closely at picture you will see F gleaner with the setup. They ran setups on both combines for a few years until dad got his 815. The chaff was high in protein plus had weed seeds in it and broken kernels so cows loved it. We ran both the butcher and a Foster chaff wagon behind our 510 Massey for years, in corn. Also used a Stackhand on corn stalks. Put some molasses on top and that’s about all the cows lived on during the winter. Quote
hagan Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 On 9/5/2025 at 7:48 AM, Bermuda_Ken said: They quit them do to lack of sales. I was told by Hesston that they needed 100 retail orders placed for them, and THEN they would build them again. All of the tooling, jigs, ect to build them with still exists yet. they built the 60 B in 1990 or so the local Case IH dealer was selling them but they were a little crude. One salesman took a new one to a customer he sold one to and this guy took a tape measure and it was not square in the bed. He refused it and got another one. One guy had the wheel bearings go out on one wheel first day from not being packed, another guy his 60 B had very little paint on it and in 2 years it was rust color. No electric clutch just a belt tightning method. The big drive pully to the flail was a 2 piece pully like on a air compressor. I was running a Hesston 60B and had decided to go to the big baler or i would of purchased one. Quote
nate Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 21 hours ago, Big Bud guy said: Little history on JD stack wagons in the first picture. I have a 1981 hay brochure that only shows the 200 in the lineup. Sales must have fallen off pretty fast in just 6-7 years. Don't know when the last year for JD stack wagons was. 2nd picture is a feeding table for the stacks. I actually saw one in person at a local consignment auction once. Probably a collectors item by now or should be. Can't be too many around. Dad bought a JD stack wagon mover and and came with the flail feeding table. We never used it. I think it is still sitting in the junk pile or what is left of it. 20 hours ago, cedar farm said: A couple guys thought they would try them on corn stalks instead of round baling them. They just fell apart. We made tons of stacks. The only thing we used the stacker for was making corn stalk bedding. There was no problem with them falling apart if you knew how to unload them. We usually would wait until winter to move them home after they set up. We did a lot of jumping from stack to stack as kids. Dad still keeps the Hesston 30B around in case conditions are not ideal to make cornstalk round bales. Quote
dale560 Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, nate said: Dad bought a JD stack wagon mover and and came with the flail feeding table. We never used it. I think it is still sitting in the junk pile or what is left of it. We made tons of stacks. The only thing we used the stacker for was making corn stalk bedding. There was no problem with them falling apart if you knew how to unload them. We usually would wait until winter to move them home after they set up. We did a lot of jumping from stack to stack as kids. Dad still keeps the Hesston 30B around in case conditions are not ideal to make cornstalk round bales. hesston and John Deere offered powered tailgates. We never had one but unloading chains on tailgates would have probably helped . Quote
iowaboy1965 Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 On 9/6/2025 at 11:02 PM, Big Bud guy said: Little history on JD stack wagons in the first picture. I have a 1981 hay brochure that only shows the 200 in the lineup. Sales must have fallen off pretty fast in just 6-7 years. Don't know when the last year for JD stack wagons was. 2nd picture is a feeding table for the stacks. I actually saw one in person at a local consignment auction once. Probably a collectors item by now or should be. Can't be too many around. Interesting. I did not know DesMoines works ever made any hay equipment. Always thought all hay equipment was made in the Ottumwa plant. Has been for many years any way. Now it's gone I believe. Quote
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 3 hours ago, iowaboy1965 said: Now it's gone I believe. Des Moine Works in Ankeny? It’s still there. Quote
iowaboy1965 Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 3 hours ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said: Des Moine Works in Ankeny? It’s still there. Ottumwa Quote
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 16 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said: Ottumwa I know they’ve had some layoffs and some temporary shut downs, but as far as I know it’s not permanently closing. You are a lot closer to there than me though. Quote
Big Bud guy Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 7 hours ago, iowaboy1965 said: Interesting. I did not know DesMoines works ever made any hay equipment. Always thought all hay equipment was made in the Ottumwa plant. Has been for many years any way. Now it's gone I believe. I’m just guessing maybe they built the stackers there because they also built the cotton pickers and strippers there and maybe they had better tooling to making the baskets????? 1 Quote
iowaboy1965 Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said: I know they’ve had some layoffs and some temporary shut downs, but as far as I know it’s not permanently closing. You are a lot closer to there than me though. I may be mistaken. 🤷♂️ Quote
iowaboy1965 Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Big Bud guy said: I’m just guessing maybe they built the stackers there because they also built the cotton pickers and strippers there and maybe they had better tooling to making the baskets????? More than likely it came down to available floor space. But who knows at this date in time. Quote
acem Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 3 hours ago, Big Bud guy said: I’m just guessing maybe they built the stackers there because they also built the cotton pickers and strippers there and maybe they had better tooling to making the baskets????? I always thought cotton module builders were inspired by hay stackers. https://www.cottoninc.com/cotton-production/ag-resources/harvest-systems/seed-cotton-handling-storage/a-brief-history-of-cotton-modules/ 1 Quote
U-C Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 On 9/5/2025 at 12:45 PM, bitty said: Are the European countries using something similar with the direct cut silage wagons? I've never seen either of these machines Well they have a Pickup and a rotor with knives that cuts the grass to length, those silage wagons got developed from the standard hay and grass self loading wagons that came on the market in 1960 first shown at the DLG in Hannover a year or so before. Switzerland had two Companies making the pulltype Bucher and Agar and well a small company that only made a few Zemp, Aebi and Luond made those for the mountain truck carriers. 1 Quote
U-C Posted September 9, 2025 Posted September 9, 2025 9 minutes ago, acem said: Is that for silage or direct feeding? well that models are mostly for hay and green feed but can be used for silage too but it will be a bit longer than with the real silage wagons that are known today Quote
ray54 Posted September 10, 2025 Posted September 10, 2025 21 hours ago, acem said: I always thought cotton module builders were inspired by hay stackers. https://www.cottoninc.com/cotton-production/ag-resources/harvest-systems/seed-cotton-handling-storage/a-brief-history-of-cotton-modules/ Ace your putting ideas in my head. That module maker could make one heck of a bale of hay. And they were selling for scrape price last I knew. Now tell me how to take it apart to feed. 1 Quote
Jacka Posted September 10, 2025 Posted September 10, 2025 I need to get out west and see some of the country.What a lot of you guys do and talk about is so interesting to me.I am just a east coast born and raised farmer. 1 Quote
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