ChrisNY Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 7 hours ago, Sask466 said: Yeah up here in the Canadian plains 600+hp quadtracks are almost becoming the norm. Same here in NY, 600hp and up 4wds and quadtracks are becoming the norm. 1 Quote
5088 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Racine County Fair? What's the lettering on the rear fender say? Quote
JaredT Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Lots of 550 to 640 machines here, 715 CaseIH and 830 Deere is just the next stepping stone. There are a few around here already, Deere dealer has three 830's coming in, all sold Quote
AKwelder Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 715 hp and climbing, whew. Makes me wonder how my great grandfather made a living with his big tractor being a Farmall 350 2 Quote
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 51 minutes ago, AKwelder said: 715 hp and climbing, whew. Makes me wonder how my great grandfather made a living with his big tractor being a Farmall 350 My grandfather was farming 240 acres with a 400, farmall H and a 600 series Ford utility. He spent time in the seat...... Quote
nepoweshiekfarmalls Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 19 hours ago, 1967806 said: Or even Steiger green woulda looked better than that color. A local contractor paints all his equipment a green similar to Steiger, even the pickups!! He has a 7140 Magnum MFD painted that green with the original black and silver on the hubs/rims/ frame/ trans. Looks kinda sharp!! 1 Quote
Big Bud guy Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 6 minutes ago, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: My grandfather was farming 240 acres with a 400, farmall H and a 600 series Ford utility. He spent time in the seat...... My great grandpa was farming over 650 acres with a W-9. That’s with 50/50 crop and fallow rotation. So he was cultivating the fallow at least 4 times every year in addition to the work it took to put the other half of the land in crop. He traded it off for a WD-9 in 1953 but he wore the W9 out at least once. 2 Quote
dale560 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Stole this picture off of Facebook. This is my brothers buddy in western central nd. This is where the big horsepower is effective pulling a big air seeder to get the crop in. 2 Quote
ChrisNY Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Big hydraulic requirements of those big air drills take a lot of HP Quote
CIHTECH Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 22 minutes ago, ChrisNY said: Big hydraulic requirements of those big air drills take a lot of HP Don't have any numbers quick but couple years ago I was showing the FFA class that very type of thing. Had tractor on dyno and recorded HP at pto speed, no other demands. Had flow and pressure tester in rear remotes, load tester for alternator, then AC. Amazing what each parasite draws from original HP reading. Hydraulics being the big one, AC an alternator both pull more than you would first think. 3 Quote
1967806 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 39 minutes ago, CIHTECH said: Don't have any numbers quick but couple years ago I was showing the FFA class that very type of thing. Had tractor on dyno and recorded HP at pto speed, no other demands. Had flow and pressure tester in rear remotes, load tester for alternator, then AC. Amazing what each parasite draws from original HP reading. Hydraulics being the big one, AC an alternator both pull more than you would first think. Had a guy tell me once they dynoed his 4440 with and without the A/C and figured it cost 5HP. Quote
Bermuda_Ken Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 Here's the 411 on the black quad on display at the Racine County Fair..........This is a 1 of 1 black paint job by CNH for a very good customer in the area. Their name is on the tractor fender. They have several other unique CIH tractors (black-red/gold paint ect) in their collection. This 715 was sold new by our dealership and it has never been in the field and (probably) never will. It was bought to be put away in their "museum".... 1 1 Quote
1967806 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 6 minutes ago, Bermuda_Ken said: Here's the 411 on the black quad on display at the Racine County Fair..........This is a 1 of 1 black paint job by CNH for a very good customer in the area. Their name is on the tractor fender. They have several other unique CIH tractors (black-red/gold paint ect) in their collection. This 715 was sold new by our dealership and it has never been in the field and (probably) never will. It was bought to be put away in their "museum".... They must have won the lottery or something. Would be nice to see their collection. Just think what some of them would be worth today of they would have started collecting new models in 1964 until present starting with the 06 series. Quote
5488ih Posted July 26, 2025 Author Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Bermuda_Ken said: Here's the 411 on the black quad on display at the Racine County Fair..........This is a 1 of 1 black paint job by CNH for a very good customer in the area. Their name is on the tractor fender. They have several other unique CIH tractors (black-red/gold paint ect) in their collection. This 715 was sold new by our dealership and it has never been in the field and (probably) never will. It was bought to be put away in their "museum".... Yes, just wanted to share the tractor. Wasn’t trying to share other people business. Ken… 🙄 1 Quote
dale560 Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Bermuda_Ken said: Here's the 411 on the black quad on display at the Racine County Fair..........This is a 1 of 1 black paint job by CNH for a very good customer in the area. Their name is on the tractor fender. They have several other unique CIH tractors (black-red/gold paint ect) in their collection. This 715 was sold new by our dealership and it has never been in the field and (probably) never will. It was bought to be put away in their "museum".... I think it looks pretty good. Quote
5088 Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 17 hours ago, Bermuda_Ken said: Here's the 411 on the black quad on display at the Racine County Fair..........This is a 1 of 1 black paint job by CNH for a very good customer in the area. Their name is on the tractor fender. They have several other unique CIH tractors (black-red/gold paint ect) in their collection. This 715 was sold new by our dealership and it has never been in the field and (probably) never will. It was bought to be put away in their "museum".... Called it right I guess. Pretty sure they used to buy their stuff at Olson's way back in the day. Had (have) some nice 66 series pullers in that family too. Quote
SDman Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 The 715 we sold last winter spent most of this spring hooked to an new John Deere air seeder...they put over 200 hrs on it with no problems. Big corn planters(36 row and more) take just as much hydraulic HP as air seeders do, if not more. Quote
Big Bud guy Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 9 minutes ago, SDman said: The 715 we sold last winter spent most of this spring hooked to a new John Deere air seeder...they put over 200 hrs on it with no problems. Big corn planters(36 row and more) take just as much hydraulic HP as air seeders do, if not more. How much def does one of those burn in a day? Quote
SDman Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 11 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said: How much def does one of those burn in a day? About the same as a 620/645. 715 goes by TierIVa emissions, not Tier IVb. That's one more reason for more HP in the newer 4wds/combines....emissions rules. Anything above 750 has less stringent emissions to deal with. Since the 715 is advertised as 787HP maximum, it can follow emissions for over 750HP. 1 Quote
dale560 Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, SDman said: The 715 we sold last winter spent most of this spring hooked to a new John Deere air seeder...they put over 200 hrs on it with no problems. Big corn planters(36 row and more) take just as much hydraulic HP as air seeders do, if not more. That is the setup our neighbors run. 60 ft jd seeder like that. The seeder was used with a new 620 last year and they were down to 3 mph in hills or less. They ordered a new 715 for this spring. They use all dry urea so the cart is full most of the time. I think their brother has the same setup this year also. They went from two 43 ft outfits to one bigger one and a big planter for soybeans. The jd disc drill isn’t the holy grail even though they are all over up here. The para link hoe opener or small knife like seed hawk , seed master and bourgualt and the jd para hoe are better drills. 1 Quote
SDman Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, dale560 said: That is the setup our neighbors run. 60 ft jd seeder like that. The seeder was used with a new 620 last year and they were down to 3 mph in hills or less. They ordered a new 715 for this spring. They use all dry urea so the cart is full most of the time. I think their brother has the same setup this year also. They went from two 43 ft outfits to one bigger one and a big planter for soybeans. The jd disc drill isn’t the holy grail even though they are all over up here. The para link hoe opener or small knife like seed hawk , seed master and bourgualt and the jd para hoe are better drills. In all honesty, around here the trend seems to be going away from air seeders in general with many preferring a corn planter instead. Less seed costs, fewer row units, more accurate depth control, and wind erosion concerns are just a few of the reasons why more farmers seem to be preferring planters over air seeders for planting soybeans. There's an outfit an hour northwest of me that has made quite a business of going around and buying older John Deere DB90 planters that were originally 36-row 30" planters and converting them over to 54-row 20" planters for soybeans. About the only real advantage of an air seeder is the convenience of filling up a cart with several hundred bushels at once and not having to stop for several hours. 2 Quote
Big Bud guy Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 3 hours ago, dale560 said: That is the setup our neighbors run. 60 ft jd seeder like that. The seeder was used with a new 620 last year and they were down to 3 mph in hills or less. They ordered a new 715 for this spring. They use all dry urea so the cart is full most of the time. I think their brother has the same setup this year also. They went from two 43 ft outfits to one bigger one and a big planter for soybeans. The jd disc drill isn’t the holy grail even though they are all over up here. The para link hoe opener or small knife like seed hawk , seed master and bourgualt and the jd para hoe are better drills. Just to be clear I don’t think any drill is Holy Grailish. My neighbor I mentioned earlier with the 84’ Bourgalt was talking with my salesman late this spring about JD disc drills because we seeded right next to each other same crop which was chickpeas and within a week of each other and I had the better stand with my JD disc drill. Couple years earlier on 1,500 acres of barley he had every hilltop either not come up or just barely. Another neighbor of mine has a Bourgault and his on certain areas of the plow buries the front row and those emerge a week later. I think which drill performs better is 90% on the operator and their farming practices. A para link hoe drill is in our future. Which one I’m not sure but I’m leaning toward Seedmaster. We run two disc drills and one regular hoe drill. Most of the time you can’t tell the difference between the two types of drills after emergence and in the combine. And when I mean most of the time I close to 100%. We will always have a disc drill because they work better in certain crops/conditions like seeding grass and hay fields. The two shank design of Seedhawk and the JD Conserva does not work very well in some of our hard gumbo soils. They leave a rough seed bed trench that the packer wheel has trouble packing down. That’s why I like the single shank Bourgault design because it leaves one V trench and the MBs can be lifted up when not in use. Problem is my CIH dealer sells them and I’m not a fan of their cart or specifically the sectional control. That leaves me with Seedmaster because my JD dealer sells them and they can be hooked to a JD cart. Quote
JaredT Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 On 7/26/2025 at 11:18 AM, nepoweshiekfarmalls said: A local contractor paints all his equipment a green similar to Steiger, even the pickups!! He has a 7140 Magnum MFD painted that green with the original black and silver on the hubs/rims/ frame/ trans. Looks kinda sharp!! Pics please Quote
SDman Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 Just curious....but how old is the "Black Knight" Steiger? The reason I ask is that it doesn't look like it has the new independent suspension track system that came out as an option on Quadtracs this spring. We sold a couple with it...definitely makes for a much smoother ride. I guess if its just going to be displayed somewhere you probably don't care about ride quality. Quote
Dirt_Floor_Poor Posted July 28, 2025 Posted July 28, 2025 9 hours ago, SDman said: In all honesty, around here the trend seems to be going away from air seeders in general with many preferring a corn planter instead. Less seed costs, fewer row units, more accurate depth control, and wind erosion concerns are just a few of the reasons why more farmers seem to be preferring planters over air seeders for planting soybeans. There's an outfit an hour northwest of me that has made quite a business of going around and buying older John Deere DB90 planters that were originally 36-row 30" planters and converting them over to 54-row 20" planters for soybeans. About the only real advantage of an air seeder is the convenience of filling up a cart with several hundred bushels at once and not having to stop for several hours. A 24R30 planter can be operated for a fraction of what it takes to run the same size 7.5” drill in our experience and do a much better job in almost any condition here. Quote
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