Young persons thinking on working

[pt756]

Good evening, we now have a 18 year old kid, to help night and morning with chores, nice guy, not the fastest, knows english and gets the work done,  the other night he commented he thinks he might just work every other day, doesnt want to mess up his Badger Care health insurance, Interesting on how they think, I think Granny is supporting him somewaht as that is where he lives,

[Cool1566]

Wow. I love how society has shifted to where the employees get to dictate the conditions of their employment…..

[lotsaIHCs]

Sadly this isn't entirely new. In the 90s I knew a young lady who worked at a pizza joint where my coworkers and I  hung out after work. She point blank told us she only worked so many hours per week so she could stay 100% on Medicaid and wouldn't have to pay any portion of her medical care.

 

[hobbyfarm]

I see this all the time.  People limit their earnings to not earn their way off all the different programs.

[MTB98]

If you earn too much to qualify for benefits but not enough to buy them on your own (and the employer won’t or doesn’t provide them) what’s a person supposed to do? 
 

[PacerX]

29 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

If you earn too much to qualify for benefits but not enough to buy them on your own (and the employer won’t or doesn’t provide them) what’s a person supposed to do? 
 

Improve themselves?

[Dirt_Floor_Poor]

Everyone I know who has any number of employees spends a large amount of time babysitting. It doesn’t matter the industry. I would say maybe 25% of people show up to their place of employment to actually get some work done and try to do a good job. It’s probably not even 25%. There are way too many people who think that a no skill, get anyone off the street, entry level job should not only be a career, it should pay well. 

[1480x3]

Get a 2nd and/or 3rd  job.  I have known many people who did that. Thats how i see young people buying land to begin farming around here. I admire that & help them by loaning equipment, helping them secure land to rent, advising when asked, & giving support in any way i can. I also help non ag people through tough times as well. 

[1480x3]

Above was reply to MTB98

[Dirt_Floor_Poor]

5 minutes ago, 1480x3 said:

Get a 2nd and/or 3rd  job.  I have known many people who did that. Thats how i see young people buying land to begin farming around here. I admire that & help them by loaning equipment, helping them secure land to rent, advising when asked, & giving support in any way i can. I also help non ag people through tough times as well. 

I agree. A young, able bodied man should be able to work 100 hours a week no problem. I did for years.

[Chester5732]

38 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

If you earn too much to qualify for benefits but not enough to buy them on your own (and the employer won’t or doesn’t provide them) what’s a person supposed to do? 
 

Get a second job or work more hours at the first.  I’m semi retired, farm part time, look after my elderly father and haul milk part time.  At noon on Tuesday I had 40 hours just hauling milk with 3 days to go before I get a break. I don’t feel sorry for a one of those lazy azz’s.  

[1480x3]

1 minute ago, Dirt_Floor_Poor said:

I agree. A young, able bodied man should be able to work 100 hours a week no problem. I did for years.

Been there done that, life is easier now. Aint taking any of it with me when i go, so just trying to make a difference

[MTB98]

34 minutes ago, PacerX said:

Improve themselves?

Well yeah that would be best. But everyone has to start somewhere. Most young people are on their parent’s insurance. If they are unfortunate to not have that they need a job with benefits or buy it on their own or go without.  Going without may not be an option if they have a medical condition or if they want to be responsible. Finding employers that offer good health insurance benefits is getting more difficult all the time. If pt756 wants the kid to work more hours maybe he should provide him with health insurance?

[MTB98]

34 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

Get a second job or work more hours at the first.  I’m semi retired, farm part time, look after my elderly father and haul milk part time.  At noon on Tuesday I had 40 hours just hauling milk with 3 days to go before I get a break. I don’t feel sorry for a one of those lazy azz’s.  

Are you buying your own health insurance? If so, how many hours are you working to pay the insurance company? 

[whweldit]

Was 16 or 17 and working during the summer for local farmer.  Well remember one time the weather had been very wet for several days.  He had corn and it was ready for its application of extra nitrogen.  Finally dried up and we started on a Monday morning.  Got across everything by weds about 3 o’clock.  It started raining again as we headed in.  I had clocked 34 hours.  Started at 7 am and actually did not stop for lunch. His wife brought sandwiches to field. We ate while refilling the fertilizer hoppers. Quit each night after dark.  

[acem]

Health insurance and health care is stupid expensive in the USA.

Many jobs don't pay enough to cover their insurance and live on.

My stepdaughter hasn't had health insurance since she moved out 20 years ago.

Typo. That should be 10 years ago.

[MTB98]

1 minute ago, acem said:

 

Health insurance and health care is stupid expensive in the USA.

Many jobs don't pay enough to cover their insurance and live on.

 

If you can afford the insurance you may not be able to afford to use it. Most that are “affordable” are high deductible plans with high max out of pocket coverage. 

[PacerX]

11 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

Well yeah that would be best. But everyone has to start somewhere. Most young people are on their parent’s insurance. If they are unfortunate to not have that they need a job with benefits or buy it on their own or go without.  Going without may not be an option if they have a medical condition or if they want to be responsible. Finding employers that offer good health insurance benefits is getting more difficult all the time. If pt756 wants the kid to work more hours maybe he should provide him with health insurance?

The United States Marine Corps was happy to provide me health insurance.

[acem]

6 minutes ago, PacerX said:

The United States Marine Corps was happy to provide me health insurance.

I have recommended military service to several young people specifically because they would always have the VA as a health service as backup after they serve.

And thank you for your service.

[stronger800]

 

I spend entirely too much time on my phone, on this forum, but it’s usually while working at the same time. I voice text to type a lot 

and don’t watch tv or sports 

I know a hard working single mom (of 1) that’s had the same job for 15 years and works every shift she’s asked to.  Might make $17hr.  Maybe 20 now. For being consistent and good, she got a raise last year. She had qualified for $500 or 1000 a year in free heating  oil and and something equally as minuscule for “housing assistance” (rent deduction…same apartment, 15 years , I’m sure it was very well kept) .  She was proud of her promotion because it got here a few little perks at her job and recognition , but with the tiny increase in pay, she no longer qualified for the heating  oil or rent deduction program (i know those programs exist, don’t know how they work).  She’s a good worker, that lost ground, by getting promoted. 
And, She’s a good enough person to have realized that she couldn’t afford to have another child….opposed to the dirtbags who will purposely have Several, as to qualify for all the programs and never need to work.

I’m also still trying to figure out how there can. Be 40 hours in a week before noon on Tuesday. At best I can only find 36

[TroyDairy]

1 hour ago, stronger800 said:

 

I spend entirely too much time on my phone, on this forum, but it’s usually while working at the same time. I voice text to type a lot 

and don’t watch tv or sports 

I know a hard working single mom (of 1) that’s had the same job for 15 years and works every shift she’s asked to.  Might make $17hr.  Maybe 20 now. For being consistent and good, she got a raise last year. She had qualified for $500 or 1000 a year in free heating  oil and and something equally as minuscule for “housing assistance” (rent deduction…same apartment, 15 years , I’m sure it was very well kept) .  She was proud of her promotion because it got here a few little perks at her job and recognition , but with the tiny increase in pay, she no longer qualified for the heating  oil or rent deduction program (i know those programs exist, don’t know how they work).  She’s a good worker, that lost ground, by getting promoted. 
And, She’s a good enough person to have realized that she couldn’t afford to have another child….opposed to the dirtbags who will purposely have Several, as to qualify for all the programs and never need to work.

I’m also still trying to figure out how there can. Be 40 hours in a week before noon on Tuesday. At best I can only find 36

Yeah we know folks who get stuck like that.  Most plug on though. 

You start on sunday.  Milk truck...7 days a week.

[Chester5732]

2 hours ago, stronger800 said:

I’m also still trying to figure out how there can. Be 40 hours in a week before noon on Tuesday. At best I can only find 36

Easy, start at midnight on Sunday morning.   That’s 60 hours. Work 2/3 and you have 40. 

[stronger800]

i know three guys that haul milk now.   But didn’t realize a work week started on Sunday.   Neighbor is a cop, his boy is a fireman, they both work a rotating 2 on three off, or something schedule, I’m not sure exactly where their week starts.  I’m more of a 7 on, 7 on schedule. 
weeks start and end? 

[Chester5732]

24 minutes ago, stronger800 said:

i know three guys that haul milk now.   But didn’t realize a work week started on Sunday.   Neighbor is a cop, his boy is a fireman, they both work a rotating 2 on three off, or something schedule, I’m not sure exactly where their week starts.  I’m more of a 7 on, 7 on schedule. 
weeks start and end? 

Every week starts with Sunday. That’s how the pay periods work.  Sunday to Saturday.   

[tractorholic]

7 hours ago, stronger800 said:

I’m also still trying to figure out how there can. Be 40 hours in a week before noon on Tuesday. At best I can only find 36

I kinda wondered that myself