Doc Egor Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Has anyone ever come across a source for dimensional drawings of obsolite parts? I've been looking for the front bracket of an oscillating axle shield for a late model 1680...part # 1979626C2. I've talked to nearly 20 salvage yards all over the US without success so I am to the point I am probably going to have to fabricate it. This style is an update to the old style I have now, so I don't have anything to work off of for a pattern is why I'm looking for a drawing/blueprint for the part. Quote
IHC_1470 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I actually got some for a 810 header from the dealer a few years ago. It took a long time but they managed to contact someone at the manufactor level. Quote
acem Posted August 6 Posted August 6 8 hours ago, Doc Egor said: Has anyone ever come across a source for dimensional drawings of obsolite parts? I've been looking for the front bracket of an oscillating axle shield for a late model 1680...part # 1979626C2. I've talked to nearly 20 salvage yards all over the US without success so I am to the point I am probably going to have to fabricate it. This style is an update to the old style I have now, so I don't have anything to work off of for a pattern is why I'm looking for a drawing/blueprint for the part. Many years ago I got a drawing for an obsolete part from a CIH dealer. It took forever. Most parts people won't even try to get it for you. Quote
Doc Egor Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, acem said: Many years ago I got a drawing for an obsolete part from a CIH dealer. It took forever. Most parts people won't even try to get it for you. And that is what I'm running into here as well. I know being a parts guy is not an easy job, especially with the newer, more complicated machines...and of course the local guys are all fairly young and many would rather play on their phones then help customers. 2 Quote
Chester5732 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 I have wondered for a long time, if a part is obsolete, why not put the specs out there so a fella can make his own part. 3 Quote
iowaboy1965 Posted August 6 Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Chester5732 said: I have wondered for a long time, if a part is obsolete, why not put the specs out there so a fella can make his own part. Because that would keep them in service longer and all of them want to sell new machines. But I agree it would be nice. 4 Quote
Jeff-C-IL Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Because its almost impossible to find those drawings. Once would have been in hard copy at IH. Likely burned. The actual mfg (some sub-contracted machine shop) may no longer be in business. Or nobody knows the supply chain anymore. It would likely require going thru 4-5 levels to even track down drawings for a common replacement part - let alone a part rarely needed. Modern computer stuff can be even worse - Go thru two company IT reorgs and whatever location the drawings resided on (local or cloud) has been lost. Don't ask me how I know this. If I had not kept a personal backup...... Only way is to actually have the part and spec it out. If anybody had one and could draw it up. Thats often a lot of work too. 1 Quote
Doc Egor Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 Understood - I'd even settle for a couple pictures and some measurements. From the parts book drawing - it looks like it is just a piece of angle iron with a sleeve welded on each end that accepts a press in bushing. The ID and length of that sleeve would really be helpful. Quote
billonthefarm Posted August 7 Posted August 7 When I worked at the dealership after college it was possible to get a blueprint of a part from CNH. I did it a couple times. That was 30 years ago. 2 Quote
junkandcattle Posted August 7 Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, billonthefarm said: When I worked at the dealership after college it was possible to get a blueprint of a part from CNH. I did it a couple times. That was 30 years ago. Yep. Parts guy called the warehouse and requested. Sometimes it took 2 or 3 days but you could get them. Sometimes faster if the branch already had them, but this was back when Kansas City was our branch. More recently there is a qc group in the Cameron warehouse who had access to drawings and specifications. The one i know retired last month Quote
acem Posted August 7 Posted August 7 1 hour ago, billonthefarm said: When I worked at the dealership after college it was possible to get a blueprint of a part from CNH. I did it a couple times. That was 30 years ago. I think mine was around 30 years ago. Quote
Board Shortener Tom Posted August 7 Posted August 7 18 hours ago, Doc Egor said: Understood - I'd even settle for a couple pictures and some measurements. From the parts book drawing - it looks like it is just a piece of angle iron with a sleeve welded on each end that accepts a press in bushing. The ID and length of that sleeve would really be helpful. I have fabricated things from a photo by measuring the actual photo and scaling them up to whatever seemed to fit the project I had. It's never 100% accurate but with a bit of "swag" things have always worked out well. Just my 2 cents 1 Quote
SDman Posted August 8 Posted August 8 There was a service bulletin pertaining to what you are looking for. Haven't been able to post photos on here for a few days due to some forum hiccups. The bushing used is the same one used for the cleaning system in some locations on the old AFs. The bulletin # is NHE SB 063 90, released September 29, 1990. Quote
Doc Egor Posted August 9 Author Posted August 9 21 hours ago, SDman said: There was a service bulletin pertaining to what you are looking for. Haven't been able to post photos on here for a few days due to some forum hiccups. The bushing used is the same one used for the cleaning system in some locations on the old AFs. The bulletin # is NHE SB 063 90, released September 29, 1990. Thank you for this information - I will be curious to see any pictures once the forum is working again! Quote
560Dennis Posted August 9 Posted August 9 Seen illustrations, never industrial drawings how to make parts ,unless they were reversed engineering. Quote
acem Posted August 9 Posted August 9 What I got was the drawings for the rubber seals for the custom cab on my 1066. They were missing and NLA from the dealer. It's the only custom cab in the area so I had no idea what was used. The dealer got me a drawing that showed the cross section of the material so I could match it up. Seems like instead of NLA it might have said 'obtain locally' Quote
FarmerFixEmUp Posted August 9 Posted August 9 4 hours ago, acem said: What I got was the drawings for the rubber seals for the custom cab on my 1066. They were missing and NLA from the dealer. It's the only custom cab in the area so I had no idea what was used. The dealer got me a drawing that showed the cross section of the material so I could match it up. Seems like instead of NLA it might have said 'obtain locally' In case you need them again. Fehr has them. https://www.fehrcab.com/ih-726-1466-custom-diamond-excel-cab-seal-kit/?searchuuid=ed1f15de-d278-48fe-9a4b-c4644b153286&search_query="1066" 1 Quote
acem Posted August 9 Posted August 9 Thanks. But the cab is about done now. Drivers side door was caught on a tree limb and taken off. Now the roof is rusting through and letting water drip in. It will become a ROPS tractor soon. I got the drawing back in the mid 90s. I had internet back then but there were few to no tractor parts on the web. Seems like I got it from JC Whitney but I'm not sure. The drawings made it easy to match up. Quote
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