560Dennis

First Showing of our Fordson F at 53 Pioneer Steam and Gas Engine Society last weekend . Thanks to Sugarmaker who came sixty miles to get the Fordson and take it home. The Fordson made quite fine showing to the attendance despite the mud . Mary Ann Mook of the Meadville Tribune ask to take pictures and asked many questions about Fordy. Thought I would share the story .

I would have to see your Holley stuff cause it only thing I’m familiar with , I had to make the Holley 234 manifold 234 float bowl and 280 mixer work , thats all I have and it worked ,( it had to ,can t find so it’s going to stay that way , I’m only running gasoline and I’m think the tube of the vapors to mixer will get hot going up to mixer but the valve is always closed. Any how send me a private message we can go over what you have Holley to get you going if need arises. also the 234 float bowls are extremely rare, the 234 manifolds are very easy to crack very thin I had to braze mine

you didn’t state what your going to use this 3 point kit for . I ve had disappointed results ,your not going to like this comment. But I feel you need to hear my findings. I cover a few of them here good luck I hope this is a helpful We bought a kit that goes from the rock shaft with horizontal lift bars . They are weak bars I had to reinforce with rectangular stock. The will bend on down stroke against any object like a tongue implements that are fixed ,or anything else on down stroke Most importantly the vertical lift is very weak 400 lbs max. You must have a working temperature gage on the control ,lift heavy loads the hydraulic system will heat up very fast, to over 250 f ,you will need to keep it away from 300 or else burn use the touch control system , and you don’t want to be rebuilding that. This a big drawback don’t overlook your objectives in future projects this will be costly. The frame of our unit prohibits the use of the flat belt pto pulley , if you have a 3 point equipment like a buzz saw that requires a flat belt , this is important your not going to use it. The frame of out kit the pto lever interferes with lever ball lock engaging the locking it in it will not stay engage pto . the lever must be heated and bent to engage and also disengage. Your skill in fabrication of lever are critical to make pto work correctly. The frame of our covers the pto oil entry plug port so you can’t get oil into the pto gear box with removal of the 3 point frame .make sure all seal and bearings are working and it’s full of oil before you install kit . as far as the set and lifting of equipment the center adjustment leveling is difficult to use, such as using it with a post hole digger. Will not enter and exit a hole with out having to adjustment of center . Very frustrating , in fact a useless attachment combination . On down stroke the auger and horizontal lifting bar to rockshaft bend make it adjustment essentially useless. Rockshaft has no float to allow auger to proceed down. At its own pace . I t makes it essential that you modify mine that the center support rotate center link with rockshaft. Witch it does not. And I would have to redesign it to do that and I have to abandon that equipment potentially. So what is it good for ? For me the only thing is getting a implements tongue easy off the ground , saves the back ,but that about it your still have climb down and put pin in. I have never had good like with kits ,they always require re-engineering, machine shop ,welding, and trade off from original mfg. I recommend you get a tractor with heavy duty 3 point really for equipment jobs you want to do, cause it’s going to be a very limited costly investment .

I had to follow up with a failure of the hydraulic lines under tool box. The installation of the 3 point hitch, a issue with a rusty hydraulic line under the tool box ( if you can call it a tool box).rats or mice built nest in there and corrosion resulting failure of line. I put bags of decon in the tool box ,but damage occurred any way. here’s the results of the fix. I had to take tool box ,deluxe seat out to get to lines. Removal of hydraulic blocks ( lack of space to work on the lines under dash. The lines did come easy enough with two of us to wiggle out . I looked up parts ( pipe , tube 374053R93 ) and went on line to many places and they wanted under 1500 with shipping for them . With all our issues with the three point installation. I wasn’t happy with the the idea of adding on to the time and effort of that to an already labor filled project. But if you have to come up with a solution you got try and come up with something . Dave gave my a place in Wisconsin that rebuilds them for 400 and send in old parts. If I could I would have sent it in to them . But I needed the tractor now . so I thought using a hydraulic hose but no fittings looked right or available. Went to hardware store they had half inch steel tubing but welded seam ,so I wasn’t comfortable that was safe. The o.d. Of pipe was 5/8 . I found the schedule 40 gas line had a 5/8 opening. The 5/8 hydraulic pipe just about fit inside. Bought the 2 foot scheduled 40 pipe for 8 dollars and a 25 dollar 5/8 drill drill to ream pipe . cut out bad section used oxy/acetylene cutting torch to copy the bend and bent a twelve inch section to to slip over the pipe . And cleaned with wire bore brush , brazed it to seal it . Bought new 11/16 x7/8x3/32 o-rings used 9 oring . In between blocks to replace old flat ones . took two of us to line up the four bolts and assembled blocks very carefully not to drop out greased o rings ( I used lubriplate 105 sticky grease to hold in block counter bores )put all back together works good. I hope this helps you if your in fa fix , low budgeting repair solution. Glad it happen early ,i guess the lord wanted it done right ,hate to see that transporter up in the air and that thing drop . that’s the story Photos are reversed in order , not comfortable with inserts to describe what’s happening in each photo , plus not clear. I hope this helps you

I’m so happy that you posted these journeys of Fordson restoration. It’s very hard to find , and I’ve learn a lot from your post. I can’t help you to much cause my tractor has a 234 Holley float bowl with a 280 mixer. Mis match but there isn’t a stock Fordson anywhere ,depression solve that . Suggestion tip .starter, I've found that if I use 10 ml syringe ,suck up about 3ml ,injection into the 280 mixer port and it will start on 3/4 turn pull ,what more can an old guy ask for. I do that cold and hot .note can’t use syringe more than a few times cause gas swells plunger but it’s the best way to measure the amount. many thanks to you ,Duane Helman,Fordson house, Keith Romeg ,my son Matt , others . I've worked on mine for ten years or more to get it to run ,so slow , I’m happy with my journey, don’t give up or quit I say to newer people ,This was not an easy project for me be patient.

We installed this 3 point kit from Steiner warehouse ,but bought from Kuhns in western New York for 560 Diesel. Going to list what we found for your edification and amusement. Hope this advice will make the project easier for you . Instructions explained 5 steps to installing to existing 560 draw bar support. Adding following are the steps we addressed to make this kit function on the Farmall 560 as best I can describe that are needed to complete the installation on my Farmall 560 . 1. We had to redrill all the 3/4 holes to mount it to get it to mount to axle. Holes were undersize. Used step drill from both sides at the barn . 2. Found the jack shaft will crush the rear hydraulic fittings exit tool box when three point hydraulic cylinders extend. Called Steiner asked them about this , we agreed we could lower the frame . I removed the vertical supports and took to my sons shop to redrill new 3/4 inch holes to lower jack shaft to clear when extended. This lower the jack shaft 1 3/8 approximately. See vertical supports photos 3. The lower u shaped draw bar mounting 3/4 mounting hole was undersized .The hole was re-drilled but the draw bar wasn’t level , so when we had it at Matt’s shop we slotted it to 1 1/4 inch. Extra wide for what’s needed but can’t tell that when tractor is 40 miles from shop. 4. The pto engagement lever would not clear the right side vertical support to disengage the the pto . So a clearance slot had to be cut into that right side vertical support. See photos of lever interference. 5. The diagonal support rods supports the u shape drawbar to vertical supports had to be redrilled , new hole was added and I had to use oxy/acetylene torch to bend diagonal to clear motion of hydraulic cylinders . Note lower the draw bar put the draw bar down to about 12 inches. 6. Added top plates to the vertical supports. I slipped an fallen trying to try and get on tractor with muddy shoes these .vertical are an accident waiting to happen for an old guy like me. This a must do to have a decent support for your foot 7 . So a thousand plus for kit , and my time Matt machine shop labor machining another 2000 , we got $3000 in conversation. that beat buying another tractor 7000 cost avoidance. 8 . Relocating hydraulic hose to manifold on center ports for easy mounting the tractor , have to buy or pipe new lines. I have to had a time stepping on pto cover with hoses there. 9. I had to repair the rusted rear steel lines sprung a leak from rust moving the tool box to mount jack shaft sprung a leak but that’s another project

Suggestion , I watched the video, if this tractor is for an old greezer. He or she can’t move fast enough to get to the choke rod , your video shows that. You would have started that tractor immediately if not sooner with a front choke rod ,the one to the dash is useless In my opinion . Up to you and your customers, of course , just a suggestion. Including photos of mine for reference and amusement. good luck

Congratulations ,very nice work ! glad you did it

That marlins a beautiful car

Cast iron

Any body into 3 D printing ? Why ? I have a crack in the Fordson float bowl. I want to try JB weld first . But I’m bull headed and won’t give up . My son has a 3 D printer now , so I wasn’t wondering if there is any one that has done something like that ✅ Note : I have not seen the crack yet ,just got a call ☎️ from My son and I’m not to good at the extent , just I have to see it ? Pretty disgusted with myself , taking out my anger on beating the dents out of the fenders . All stop and think ? you don’t find one of these on eBay if you do you pay eBay prices and get the same thing hundred year old part is pretty hard to find let alone description

Brother Bob’s got bacteria pneumonia not COVID, treating with antibiotics and steroids, I don’t think he in hospital ? update ,still need prayers pneumonia isn’t nothing to dismiss

Sometimes out necessities I find the simple tools work the best in body work . Such as a split 2x4 and a C clamp is taking out some large bends in this Fordson fender ! ❗️??‍♂️, Just amazed as to the versatility and amount work it will do if placed in the right spot . Thought this was an excellent example , no heat just pure leverage.

Pours like honey ?, not going to taste ?

They won’t say who , so they won’t by some law I guess ?‍♂️?just give the days the staffer was working , ✅?I’m im contact and property warned

If it isn’t bad with brother Robert ,I got an email from Madison ymca that one of the staff tested plosives. I was there on the days the individual was there. So the wife and and decided we had to quarantine, to two weeks. I got to call the food bank I work with on Tuesday I won’t be there for a while and why. l got to cancel the blood drive also. ?✅

Please pray for my older brother Robert in Phoenix, I couldn’t talk to him yesterday ,he’s was coughing, could not speak to me it was to hard. im sure , but I think know what it is. Ex ray confirmed , They going in yesterday evening for treatment ,. So up to the doctors nurse now. thank you ? what else can I say we need your prayers

Saw one Ford ?,DuPont , Jeep , any body from Jeep ?

Brought heavy stream cylinder gear oil into the house to warm up in the Landry room .So heavy it’s like watching grease flow .?‍♂️ They used this heavy oil in stream engine cylinders, and gear boxes , worm gear drive which the Fordson is. If I left it in the cold shed , it would barely flow out into the gear box.

Most expensive classic tractor is my Fordson , with out dought sunk more more into I than I care to honestly admit .

Sorry here is a link to there site so you can select a lubricant.https://petroleumservicecompany.com I've purchase oil from them , psc is petroleum service company here’s another one , I have not bought from https://www.thelubricantstore.com

I order a hard to find locally a equivalent (Mobil 600 w ) from PSC on line. Delivered to the house . There is another oil on line oil vendor , forget there name. They offer nice selections, with readable specifications an application

Close fit Carolina Wren , nice information better than my book

Had a bird on the patio , it was beautiful brown body and a tail like a wren ,but the beak was long and thin. Sorry no pictures to fast .