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  1. Post some pictures and it would be much easier to identify what is in it.
  2. https://www.prageru.com/video/police-are-fighting-child-exploitation/ It certainly is time to speak out against this.
  3. IHC_1470

    Corona virus

    I thought the following was a good realty check. How did we let things get to the point they are? A Pandemic Observed Katherine Baker Aug 9 · 16 min read What mourning my husband and son taught me about the fear of death. We buried my baby in a wooden box in the crook of the arm of his father. My husband was thirty-seven and had died in a car accident coming home from his work as an Orthodox priest in a sudden snow storm on a Sunday afternoon in March. My son was born at twenty weeks gestation about two weeks before his father’s death, but the ground was too frozen to bury him in the cemetery plot just then, so the funeral home offered to keep the tiny body until spring. But when his father died too, it was considered worth the use of the special machines used to thaw the ground for a winter burial in New England, and so there was some comfort in knowing the two would lie together. My husband’s face had been destroyed in the accident which took him on the Feast of Holy Orthodoxy, the day we celebrate the restoration of the icons to the use of the church after the iconoclast heresy had attempted to remove all images from worship. My ten-year-old son had recently painted an icon of the Holy Face of Christ which he decided to place in the coffin with his father thinking it would suffice to provide a face for his Dad. It was good theology for a ten-year-old, the second-born of his theologian father, as it is in Christ that any of us can hope to have any wholeness at all. The strange coincidence of the feast on which my husband died often strikes me as painfully ironic but on my best days, it is a hopeful sign of the restoration of those faces someday in the Resurrection. Jonathan Pageau carves the headstone. Though the car skidded on the ice and rolled three times, coming to rest in on-coming traffic, in a strange miracle, my six children, who were with my husband at the time, not only survived but were completely unharmed except for one black eye and one scratched finger needing only a small band-aid. The children were tended immediately, but my husband was instantly killed because he was thrown from the vehicle. At the time, I was at home recovering from the miscarriage. In making arrangements for his funeral, I learned that priests are buried with their faces covered by the aer, or the cloth that is used to cover the gifts of bread and wine offered in the liturgy. This is to signify the shroud of Christ and the offering of the priest back to God as a sacrifice. A regular open casket could take place, as usual, with his face covered. His hands with the freckles and the fuzz of reddish hair were the only visual aspects left to assure me it really was him — that, and the strange way his shoes turned out in that duck way they always did from a hip abnormality he had from birth. It added some kind of strange comedy to the solemn scene of his church funeral. And so he was buried and a carved stone icon of the Resurrection was placed over his head, and we all marveled that God had decided to take so remarkable a person: son and brother, husband, father of six living children, dear friend to many, a musician, and a poet, soon to get his PhD in theology and recently recognized for his intellectual work by some of the leading minds of his field, he was recently ordained and assigned to his first parish only six weeks prior. As a priest from our former parish said, “as we have buried such a dear seed, from it we expect a tremendous harvest.” The icon of the Resurrection emerges from the stone, under Jonathan’s gifted hands. Three of my children and myself were first exposed to a known COVID-19 case on the five-year anniversary of my husband’s death but did not hear about the exposure for over a week. I looked to my six children and wondered if any or all of them would be the next to lie with their Daddy and brother, or if I would be the one to leave them totally orphaned. Now that the oldest was seventeen and the youngest seven we had finally settled into some kind of regularity, though I still struggled daily with a deep darkness. As I watched the pandemic and lockdown play out, observing it from a place of intimacy with death and mourning. Very often I wondered if that was the case for our leaders and decision makers. It appeared to me death was being approached officially as an anomaly instead of a certainty, and disease we being treated like a strange exception instead of the rule. We ticked off each COVID-19 death one by one through mass media in a way never done with any other cause of death before. Of course, this seemed justified at the time because, in a pandemic, each death is another piece of the puzzle, which is helping us to understand the disease, and, to be fair, in the early days we had no idea what it might do. But I began to worry about our nation’s response to the disease about the time our own self-imposed family quarantine was over. The lockdowns were in full swing and no exit strategies were even allowed to be spoken of without the accusation that anyone considering reopening to a more normal sort of life simply did not care about humanity. It seemed that so many were willing to make a bargain with whoever might be offering that they would do anything to save others from sickness and death. While this was certainly generous and completely understandable (and I am sure I too would have been tempted by it before I had lost my husband and child), it caused me alarm now that I was already in mourning. I could see that these well-meaning, deeply loving people simply could not imagine life without their dear ones and so they were ready to make any sacrifices that were asked of them to keep death at bay. Eve awaits Resurrection. I totally identified with the contradictory and confused feelings of the bereaved C.S. Lewis, in A Grief Observed when he said about the loss of his wife, “her absence is like the sky spread over everything” but elsewhere saying the loss is, “like an amputation.” Both are true. But as a mourning person it is my personal daily struggle to go on living the best I can, with myself and my world utterly altered. In our fear of death we simply do not want to think about what happens after our loved ones die. But we must. We seem to be willing, in our understandable terror, to trade away many essential things: basic freedoms, our public life and public institutions for the promise of greater safety from sickness and death, but when that sickness and death come anyway (as it must), what will we do when we find we have made the world worse than it otherwise might have been? If we trade the beauty and order of our society for safety, not only will we find we have lost our dear ones anyway, we will sit and mourn them in a desolate land of our own making. There is a dark part of us all that wants the world to match the pain we feel. I think this is the primary work of mourning people: to refuse bitterness, to choose life every moment we can (and repent when we fail) and refuse to make the whole world worse just because we are hurting. The world is already a graveyard; it does not have to be ****. The real tragedy is not a person dying young, but a person whose life becomes a kind of death. Those people are truly, “dead before their time.” My husband was not dead before his time. He had really lived right up to the last moment and accomplished so much. In the intervening five years I have, at times, upbraided myself for all the ways I could have kept my baby and my husband alive. I concoct alternative scenarios in which we would all be at home before the snow started falling and I would have taken better care of myself to keep from having a miscarriage. But I know this is a dangerous line of reasoning. While surely some of my choices and my husband’s choices did indeed affect the final end result, to place all the blame for accidental death on a survivor just results in that person too, succumbing to a torturous depression that is a kind of death in life. Just like it’s counterproductive to suggest to a woman who has miscarried that she continue to ruminate on all the ways she might have been responsible for her child’s death, or suggest to a spouse or caregiver that they might have done something different to save their loved one, it is also wrong to suggest to everyone that they should tear themselves up with guilt over the deaths of the most fragile. “Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.… So do not be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows” (Matthew 10:30). Christ, conquering death by death. The pandemic has demanded that we siphon all our lives through the internet. The corporal works of mercy seem to have been made incorporeal, better to be filtered through big tech. Someone is making a lot of money when we funnel all our relationships, commerce, education, recreation and even worship through a third party. This new disembodied way of living is an effort to be “safe,” but it seems Christ’s example suggests we must become more embodied, not less. We already know that however safe living on the internet might make us from some kinds of physical threats, the new cancel culture and persistent internet aggression has opened up whole new ways to devastate and be devastated. In avoiding the pain of my own life, I find the lure of being dis-incarnated very seductive. The internet — that glittering indulgence of the eyes — is an infinite stream of the finite, wherein you can pretend to lose your loss, and your body with its limitations. There, I can temporarily avoid some of the pain of my present life. But, God Himself, pure spirit, became a real man with a real body. It is a continuing argument I have with Him that He took the bodies of my dear love and child from me at the same time that He insists on the Incarnation of Himself. My argument with God goes something like this: You say it is so important to be incarnated, to become a human with a body and yet you expect me to be satisfied with this husband and son of mine whose living bodies are gone from me? You expect me to commune with them as far away spirits while you lived as a man. Which is it, God? Is it good to be incarnated or not? To which I wonder if God’s response to my objections might be something like: your dissatisfaction, my dear, is exactly My point. This is not the end. We await the Resurrection of the body. Adam St. Paul says that Christ died and rose again to set us free from our fear of death which is a kind of slavery that has held us in bondage from the beginning (Hebrews 2:15). How do we understand the lives of the martyrs in a pandemic? “They endured mocking and flogging, chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, sawn in two, put to death by sword. They went around…destitute, oppressed and mistreated,” says St Paul. But he concludes, “The world was not worthy of them” (Hebrews 11:37). Pandemic was actually very common throughout history and, through those times, the saints went right on fulfilling Christ’s commands to feed and clothe, care for, and love others. It’s very possible some disease was actually spread through the charitable acts of the saints, if it was God’s will. It’s not that those saints were too uneducated to know that this could happen, it’s that they made a conscious choice to care for others in a physical way in spite of the risks to themselves and even the risks to those they cared for. Why did they do this? Because the people around them who asked for their embodied love needed that embodied love more than they needed long lives free of suffering. Even though humans make choices that are real, no sickness or death happens without God’s permission or involvement. Or at least Christians used to believe this. Forcible, physical segregation and perpetual isolation is usually used as punishment. Are we so sure that the negative outcomes of these safety measures won’t outweigh the positive? Tertullian said, “The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church.” Christians have always been noted as those people who did not practice abortion, euthanasia and suicide. They considered life precious, but their saints famously did not pursue the lengthening of their own individual lives to the detriment of their own souls, nor the souls of others. The martyrs did not count their own physical deaths as much compared to what awaited them (Romans 8:18) And that’s not because they undervalued this present life. Christian saints often laid down their lives for other people but there were also some things they simply would not do — like worship idols — not even to save a life, not even the life of their own child. If we want to be people of integrity, we must imitate their example. I fully expect, if we are living as Church, there could be large outbreaks of COVID-19 in Christian communities, just like in any other human encounter, should God will it. Dietrich Bonhoeffer said, “When Christ calls a man, He bids him come and die.” And if we are blamed by the authorities for being “super-spreaders,” it would not be the first time in history. No one blames a person for going to the store for groceries and spreading or picking up germs there, but it seems worship is being approached more like a concert than like “daily bread.” But gathering for Sunday liturgy and fellowship should be a help to facing the possibility of death, which is exactly what we need right now. A priest’s job is not to keep me alive; it’s to help me live and die well. Christians should never judge someone who chooses safety from suffering and death as did the early Donatist heretics who cast out of the church those who fled persecution. However, Christians should neither judge nor exclude those who choose honorable risk either. A principal of non-judgment is our example. Force and manipulation should be rejected whether that force or manipulation be in favor of risk or against it. My husband wrote in a sermon shortly before his death: “God created man in the year 33, on a hill called Golgotha.” Christ, declared his great work “accomplished” from the agony of the cross. It is in union with Christ that we become who we ought to be, and so how can we escape death when even Christ did not? In one of his last sermons, my husband suggested to his flock, “….may we make our own these words of St. Ignatius of Antioch, written to his fellow Christians on his way towards martyrdom for refusing the idolatry of pagan Rome: ‘It is better for me to die in Christ Jesus than to be king over the ends of the earth… The pains of birth are upon me. Allow me, my brethren; hinder me not from living, do not wish me to be stillborn… Allow me to imitate the passion of my God …when I shall have arrived there, I shall become a human being.’” (Epist. ad Rom., 6). Christ harrows **** after his own death on the Cross, and finding our first parents, Adam and Eve, and pulls them out of their graves. The week my husband died, I heard one of my younger children ask my oldest, who was twelve years old at the time and had been sitting in the front seat in the accident, why he didn’t tell Daddy to put on his seatbelt because that would have saved his life? Alarmed, I immediately told the children that we were not to ask such questions. God decides when people die. Daddy usually wore his seatbelt. It is a mystery to me why he didn’t put it on that day. I see before me an entire nation of people being encouraged to ask similar terrible questions of themselves and others. There is a great mystery between God’s will and human freedom. We should not pretend to understand something we do not. Christians have never held that death is only a game of chance. It is unconscionable to burden people with guilt for the deaths of others just for going about their lives, especially for the deaths of the most fragile, when death awaits us all. The night before the accident I found that the middle bench seat in our van was not properly latched into the floor. I tried many times to get the seat to engage into the floor, but it would not budge. The seats were stuck in an unlocked position, the red plastic warning showing. As my fingers became numb with cold, I finally said a prayer, “God protect my children,” and I did the sign of the cross. When I went to the wrecked van after the accident, the seat was locked into the floor as it should be: the red plastic warning no longer showed. At some point before the rollover, it had locked itself into place and the children were basically uninjured. I must believe that the death of my husband and my unborn son were the will of God. To do otherwise would not only cause me to degenerate into someone I do not want to be, it would be to deny my faith. I could choose to take total responsibility for those deaths, but practically speaking what would that accomplish for my children other than my own disintegration? I could blame my husband for his own death or for endangering our children. But how would that help? I know he loved them and me deeply and I know he valued his own life. Any mistakes he might have made that contributed to his own death he certainly paid for, crushed against that hard surface of reality. I could blame someone else for his death or my child’s death: family members, friends, doctors, highway workers, but that would only multiply the destruction. God alone knows the level of anyone’s culpability in their own deaths and the deaths of others. And should we know for a fact that someone has contributed to a death or perpetrated a murder directly, Christians teach that God is ready to forgive. When it comes to causes of death we must refrain from judgment, and throw ourselves upon the mercy of God or risk making the already bereaved nearly as dead as the people they miss. God gave human beings freedom with which they often create chaos, hatred and torture. But it is by that same power of freedom that we also love. God took an extraordinary risk in His great benevolence. Human freedom has created no end of misery, and it is easy to blame God for the evil humans create with their freedom. But is it God’s fault if we continually use for evil the tools He gave us for good? God not only risked the loss of our souls to give us the capacity to love, but He also took that risk even further in the Incarnation, wherein His pure spirit took on flesh that ultimately died, just as ours will. We cannot avoid death, but we do have a choice about how we should spend our life. Should we squander it, buried like the gold from the Parable of the Talents (Matthew 25), or should we face the risk and live out the adventure of our own lives? I do not believe, and I think it injurious to me and my children to act out that the death of the body is to be avoided at all costs. Nor do I believe that death is ultimately only something that happens if one does not take the proper precautions. Nor do I find it edifying to imagine that the primary way death comes to us is through the normal breathing and natural movement of other people around me. Even if this is true, acting this out will inevitably create fear, distrust, segregation and xenophobia. When we encourage this attitude, we further enslave people to their own inborn fear of death and isolate them from each other. We never admire the character in a story who will do or say anything to stay alive a little longer, or who pressures other people to put themselves at risk or even die for him. We admire the person who, if the normal living and breathing of others could cause him to suffer or even die, would rather risk suffering and death than ask someone else to stop living and breathing for him. Of course, this takes a courage we don’t actually have. We need grace. A Christian imitates Christ and does not shrink from a fully incarnate life. I fail at this every day. I am terrified of death. But on my better days I am even more afraid of what I could become if I let the fear of death become my master. In an internet news report on my husband’s accident someone wrote in the comment section, “Well, God was not his co-pilot! LOL!” While that thoughtless joke probably represents my own worst temptation, on my better days I believe that the God who can fasten seats to the floor of a vehicle before an accident can send his angels to remind the driver to put his seatbelt on. Who am I to say God was not with my husband in the moment of his death? I know he prayed for that every day and I trust God to be merciful. The question isn’t will I die? Or will the people I love die? The answer to that has always been, yes. A better question might be will I let the anticipation of death make me and my world, better or worse?
  4. As to your question NE. It is a fact that his father was at one time working with planned parenthood. Not saying that should have an influence on Bill but what are the odds? When you can hear Bill saying the goal is to lower world population by 10-15% by better health care and vaccinations does that really make sense to you? Many seem to think the world is falling apart due to climate change, CO2, over population, and what ever else they can throw into the mix. IMHO and that is all it is, Gates I believe thinks he is doing the world a favor with his actions. He is certainly not the first person who has tried to control world population. Margaret Sanger certainly comes to mind and she zeroed in on the Negro people https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/23/racism-eugenics-margaret-sanger-deserves-no-honors-column/5480192002/ Now it would seem she needs to be removed from the records of planned parenthood to fit the new agenda. We can look back to Hitler and what he tried to achieve. I probably can come up with a few more names over the course of history but you get the picture. To back up my claim about Sanger look at this chart and notice the difference percentage wise of Negro verse the rest of population in the US since 1973. I would say they were certainly a target. While you looking at the chart, notice since the beginning to this year the number of abortions 25+ million. Covid-19 is not even in the running for deaths. And before you tell me that abortion is an elective procedure I know that and the result is still death. http://www.numberofabortions.com/ So answer my question your turn. https://prepareforchange.net/2018/10/15/bill-gates-father-was-the-head-of-planned-parenthood-and-inspired-his-population-control-views/ https://www.lifenews.com/2020/04/17/bill-gates-has-given-68-million-to-organization-that-sells-abortion-pills-worldwide/ https://www.wnd.com/2009/05/99105/ https://tricentennial.us/2020/03/28/bill-gates-and-eugenics-the-world-needs-fewer-people/ https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bill+gates+on+population+control&&view=detail&mid=318ACB9727C4EF7F46CE318ACB9727C4EF7F46CE&rvsmid=ED978EDC7E6B1D9F3048ED978EDC7E6B1D9F3048&FORM=VDQVAP Gates here talks about lowering the population by 10-15%. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-bill-gates-effect-whos-dtp-vaccine-kills-more-children-in-africa-than-the-diseases-it-targets/ Here we talk about Gavi which Gates help start back in 2020. The link below is to this; The Introduction of Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis and Oral Polio Vaccine Among Young Infants in an Urban African Community: A Natural Experiment. If you will notice it resulted in an increase in deaths. Conclusion DTP was associated with increased mortality; OPV may modify the effect of DTP. Keywords: Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine, DTP, Measles vaccine, Non-specific effects of vaccines, Oral polio vaccine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360569/ https://www.gavi.org/investing-gavi/resource-mobilisation-process/gavis-3rd-donor-pledging-conference-june-2020 Listen the I believe it was the 3rd speaker from the UN. Talking about world wide vaccination to control Covid-19.
  5. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/FINAL-AI-POLICY-PRIMER-0220.pdf#:~:text=AI%2C Society%2C and Governance%3A An Introduction POLICY PRIMER,of service and embodies his ethos of nonpartisan Tin foil hat stuff? The world is rapidly changing that is for certain. Only time will tell if for the better. Pages 7, 8, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 22 talked about it being used for facial recognition, law enforcement pros and cons, election fraud, massive amounts of CO2 (284 tons), privacy concerns and the list goes on. I was going to cut and paste until I read the back of the last page and was not sure what issues it would cause so elected not to. 27 pages of information. "The Atlantic Council is a nonpartisan organization that promotes constructive US leadership and engagement in international affairs based on the central role of the Atlantic community in meeting today’s global challenges. © 2020 The Atlantic Council of the United States. All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means without permission in writing from the Atlantic Council, except in the case of brief quotations in news articles, critical articles, or reviews."
  6. New Englander you do seem to have problems answering simple questions, however I have not given up hope just yet. Explain to me why people such as Dr. Judy Mikovits, the front line Drs., Dr. Rashid A. Buttar, Dr. Andrew Moulder all whistle blowers in one way or another; why have they come forth? Show me what they could/have personally gain by doing this. Some of gone to jail, some have ended up in bankruptcy, some have given their lives under very suspicious circumstances, many have lost their license in their chosen fields, yet they come forth. To say some one has been "Weaver, 29, has been charged with three felonies — robbery, tampering with evidence, obstructing justice — and domestic violence, according to an indictment filed on July 20 in Portage County Court of Common Pleas." means what? Lots of people have been charged with things. So what! Seems like there is lots of robbery, tampering with evidence, obstructing justice going on within the governments of the world and maybe it is time to get to the bottom of things. Take some time and really read all of Psalms 2; verses 11:12 can apply to us all even though it was addressed to the rulers of the world. Meditate on verse 1 for a few hours and give me your answer to that question. Give me a plausible explanation as to why these people are doing this and I might begin to believe your claims of conspiracy theory, until then I will maintain my current opinion.
  7. New Englander a question for you. Why is so much information being banned from places such as FB, YouTube, and Vimeo? Take this one for instance: https://vimeo.com/448426145. A little digging will produce this. "This is the full-length documentary “Shadowgate”, produced by Infowars reporter Millie Weaver. Infowars has confirmed that Weaver has been arrested on Friday, and Alex Jones will make a statement when more details become available. In the meantime, watch this bombshell documentary the Deep State does not want you to see!" Which is the same results some of the whistle blowers have had happen to them. https://www.infowars.com/shadowgate-full-film/ There appears to be much more to draining the swamp then most even begin to think was needed. I am not saying any of this information is correct but I do have to ask the question why are we not allowed to decide for ourselves? When something is banned for our good than I for one really want to know what it was. Why if we do not agree with what others think or post do we have to throw in comments such as antivaxxer, conspiracy theorist so on and so on?
  8. Maybe Hydroxychloroquine has something going for it after all. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/17/mn_governor_quietly_reverses_course_on_hydroxychloroquine__143978.html?fbclid=IwAR2ibDT02d4DcPFYQJYJYRpsNZJZKRl2_hYDuJ2G-N14IJO4qU62aIvEGQo
  9. Certainly agree. However he does have lots of money to throw around and the potential does seem to exist to sway things. Most on here probably do not have any medical back grounds just as Mr. Gates does not. Would any of us even come close to making Ted Talks, talking to congress, etc.? What is the only difference based on qualifications, money. So yes it is BS on his part however it appears he continues to do it. We have all been able to witness over the years how dishonest many in government are, tell us one thing and do just the opposite. Why would Gates be any different? I did not have any trouble hearing what he said about population reduction. Came right out of his mouth. When you contribute almost as much to WHO as the United States it is not very hard to imagine you can change the direction the horse travels if you so desire. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2020-05-29/gates-foundation-donations-to-who-nearly-match-those-from-us-government
  10. https://www.bitchute.com/video/WGbYHJcMbz8/ Not to be found on you tube WHY? And Mr. Gates wants to lower the world population. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3leko2
  11. IHC_1470

    Corona virus

    Banned from youtube. https://www.bitchute.com/video/WGbYHJcMbz8/
  12. IHC_1470

    345 Timing?

    The label on my 74 says 0 degrees at 700 rpm with vacuum hose disconnected at the distributor. #8 as was all ready mentioned.
  13. Why does anyone really think there will be a vaccine for this? Sure there is always a first time but do you really think this will be the one? It’s possible, Roper fears, that COVID-19 could be a virus that proves resistant to vaccination. “This may be one,” she says. “If we have one, this is going to be it, I think.” The FDA has never approved a vaccine for humans that is effective against any member of the coronavirus family, which includes SARS, MERS, and several that cause the common cold. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/will-there-be-a-coronavirus-vaccine-maybe-not.html Coronavirus vaccine challenges Past research on vaccines for coronaviruses has also identified some challenges to developing a COVID-19 vaccine, including: Ensuring vaccine safety. Several vaccines for SARS have been tested in animals. Most of the vaccines improved the animals' survival but didn't prevent infection. Some vaccines also caused complications, such as lung damage. A COVID-19 vaccine will need to be thoroughly tested to make sure it's safe for humans. Providing long-term protection. After infection with coronaviruses, re-infection with the same virus — though usually mild and only happening in a fraction of people — is possible after a period of months or years. An effective COVID-19 vaccine will need to provide people with long-term infection protection. Protecting older people. People older than age 50 are at higher risk of severe COVID-19. But older people usually don't respond to vaccines as well as younger people. An ideal COVID-19 vaccine would work well for this age group. Because of the seriousness of the COVID-19 pandemic, vaccine regulators might fast-track some of these steps. But it's unlikely that a COVID-19 vaccine will become available sooner than six months after clinical trials start. Realistically, a vaccine will take 12 to 18 months or longer to develop and test in human clinical trials. And we don't know yet whether an effective vaccine is possible for this virus. If a vaccine is approved, it will take time to produce, distribute and administer to the global population. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859
  14. No I would not call it fake, on the other hand what was the reason for the low numbers early on. That your graph does not seem to explain. So please do. Philippians 4:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:19-21, and 1 John 4:1-5 and Jeremiah 17:9. Those four verses say a lot. When you start applying them you can start to can traction IMHO. May not mean a thing, however could not help noticing your spelling of God in lower case. Is your god that small that He does not deserve the respect and reverence due Him? In other words He is God! Let me say at this point vaccines have way to many unanswered questions to make me comfortable trusting in them or the people pushing them. Why do we need to agree to disagree? It is pretty clear to me that we do. Certainly causes no issues for me does it for you? If you can show me where I have ever said your beliefs are wrong I will certainly apologize. Why would they be wrong, they are yours to do with as you wish. Looking forward and off topic but do you see a one world order coming? No need to go beyond yes or no for an answer.
  15. Here is one conspiracy that was true. https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Polio-SV40/BLFTestimonySV40.aspx It was in 1960 that an NIH scientist named Bernice Eddy discovered that rhesus monkey kidney cells used to make the Salk polio vaccine and experimental oral polio vaccines could cause cancer when injected into lab animals. Later that year the cancer-causing virus in the rhesus monkey kidney cells was identified as SV40 or simian virus 40, the 40th monkey virus to be discovered. (Shorter, e. 1987. The Health Century) Sadly, the American people were not told the truth about this in 1960. The SV40 contaminated stocks of Salk polio vaccine were never withdrawn from the market but continued to be given to American children until early 1963 with full knowledge of federal health agencies. Between 1955 and early 1963, nearly 100 million American children had been given polio vaccine contaminated with the monkey virus, SV40. (Institute of Medicine, National Academy of Sciences . 2002. Immunization Safety Review: SV40 Contamination of Polio Vaccine and Cancer. Washington, D.C.: National Academy Press)
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