Vintage Ads

[Old Binder Guy]

Since were deep into combines here, my grandpa Hamilton is in the grain bin of his Curtis (Curtis Baldwin- of Gleaner fame) combine pulled by an Allis Chalmers tractor north of Lewistown, Montana near Suffolk.

M Diesel, My father inlaw told of a Gleaner mounted on a Fordson at his father's farm near Moore, Montana. They ran out of gas, so they were going to pour the 5 gallons of gasoline they had along. It spilled onto the manifold, caught fire, and the guy flung the gas can. It caught the combine, the field and the man afire. He burned to death on the spot. That was the only Gleaner/Fordson I've ever heard about. Gary

[Big Bud guy]

Mighty Fine Anson.

I have another ad here from 1967. Although I have not researched it I have always thought the 510, 410 and 300 were introduced at the same time.

I have heard from several people and actually read about it in a Massey magazine that the 300 came out a year before the 410 and 510. So that would have been around 1963??? We bought a brand new 510 in 1964 and it had to been one of the first. Dealer allowed us $3,462.95 for our MH 90 Special. Full price of the combine was $12,594.35. Great grandpa and grandpa bought the combine together so each paid in $4,565.70. We also bought another new one in 1975. Lots of small differences between the two such as the header, ops station, the shoe like others have mentioned.

[Loadstar]

Mighty Fine Anson.

I have another ad here from 1967. Although I have not researched it I have always thought the 510, 410 and 300 were introduced at the same time.

I have heard from several people and actually read about it in a Massey magazine that the 300 came out a year before the 410 and 510. So that would have been around 1963??? We bought a brand new 510 in 1964 and it had to been one of the first. Dealer allowed us $3,462.95 for our MH 90 Special. Full price of the combine was $12,594.35. Great grandpa and grandpa bought the combine together so each paid in $4,565.70. We also bought another new one in 1975. Lots of small differences between the two such as the header, ops station, the shoe like others have mentioned.

Interesting to hear the prices of a new 510 in 64. No new Masseys on this farm but my dad did buy a well used MH 60 self propelled about 1965 that came in as a trade at the local Cockshutt dealer. Us kids thought it was pretty good going from the old Case model A pull type to a self propelled. This is how it looked when new in 1955, except for the roto screen cleaner up on the hopper tank. Dad had one of those cleaners on the Case but not the Massey.

[Big Bud guy]

Mighty Fine Anson.

I have another ad here from 1967. Although I have not researched it I have always thought the 510, 410 and 300 were introduced at the same time.

I have heard from several people and actually read about it in a Massey magazine that the 300 came out a year before the 410 and 510. So that would have been around 1963??? We bought a brand new 510 in 1964 and it had to been one of the first. Dealer allowed us $3,462.95 for our MH 90 Special. Full price of the combine was $12,594.35. Great grandpa and grandpa bought the combine together so each paid in $4,565.70. We also bought another new one in 1975. Lots of small differences between the two such as the header, ops station, the shoe like others have mentioned.

Interesting to hear the prices of a new 510 in 64. No new Masseys on this farm but my dad did buy a well used MH 60 self propelled about 1965 that came in as a trade at the local Cockshutt dealer. Us kids thought it was pretty good going from the old Case model A pull type to a self propelled. This is how it looked when new in 1955, except for the roto screen cleaner up on the hopper tank. Dad had one of those cleaners on the Case but not the Massey.

Nice. Have any specs for the 60 through 90 Masseys?

[Loadstar]

Nice. Have any specs for the 60 through 90 Masseys?

I have this 1952 brochure and the only combines listed are the 90, 80 and 70. No mention of a model 60. The model 70 appears small with only a 24 inch wide cylinder. . I think the model 60 had a 28 inch cylinder. It might have been a newer replacement for the 70. The model 80 had a 32 inch wide cylinder. The big 90 was 37 inches wide. .

[WiebeLC]

Here is an ad for a M-H 60. No real technical specs though. The ad came from Farm and Ranch Review, June 1954

[Loadstar]

Here is an ad for a M-H 60. No real technical specs though. The ad came from Farm and Ranch Review, June 1954

Its good to see a new contributor of old ads here. And that is a nice one. I am pretty sure I have it somewhere in my collection. That is just like my dad's model 60.

Here is a 1956 ad for the 80 and 90 "Specials". I'm not sure if dad's 60 was a "special". I will have to check the manual. Or the combine if the paint has not worn to the point that it is unreadable.

There is no mention in the ad but notice at the bottom the line "Massey-Harris-Ferguson." This was around the time that Ferguson was involved and the company eventually became Massey Ferguson.

[Delta Dirt]

Seeing the "torture test" in the bottom right corner of the above post very much resembles a combine crossing rice field levees----------Hel! on man and machine when dry---------more so in the mud.

Rice is also a very abrasive crop to cut-------lots of wear on auger flighting.

Massey was king in the rice fields for years.

DD

[664 CDN]

All these adds for Massey combines, did I mention before that I was with a group of school kids that toured the Massey Harris combine plant in 1953?

Ray

[Loadstar]

Seeing the "torture test" in the bottom right corner of the above post very much resembles a combine crossing rice field levees----------Hel! on man and machine when dry---------more so in the mud.

Rice is also a very abrasive crop to cut-------lots of wear on auger flighting.

Massey was king in the rice fields for years.

DD

They tell me that peas really wear down the flighting on a combine too.

Ray, I bet that was quite a place to tour at MH back in 53. I don't know if they built Massey freezers there but back in 51 you could buy one from your local Massey dealer. Those were the days when rural electrification was spreading and Massey, like the other companies, saw the potential for sales of "house machinery" like the freezer.

[Loadstar]

Massey made a "clipper" combine too, as seen here in the 1947 catalogue. I got into the habit of using the term "clipper" for all those little full width pull type combines.

[Norton]

All,

I'm enjoying the ads you're putting here. Makes me think I was born A. too late, B. on the wrong continent C; I urgently need to vist some USA/ Can farms, D stay there. Attached you'll find (I hope, this is my first posting) a brochure on the Case IH Mammut, a european made forage harvester. Don't know if you had them...

cheers!

[jordi 1455]

Same Laser 150 (in north america sold as Agco-allis 7650)

[utility 64]

I have this brochure propelled forage harvesters CASE IH.
I have another brochure on a model 8790 forage harvesters more powerful.
These forage harvesters from Germany railcars (MENGELE) were purchased in 1999 by CASE IH.
Their production was stopped when the merger with New Holland group. Propelled forage harvesters new CASE IH "CHX" were built on bases propelled forage harvesters NEW HOLLAND.

[Loadstar]

I thought that Same tractor looked familiar. And re: forage harvesters, I have a vintage one here from 1951. This is how Massey Harris did it back then. Cut the crop and then chop it up and blown into a forage wagon.

I'd like to hear that old 44 on a good steady pto load like the forage chopper.

[George 2]

Ralph:

In our area the 44 engine could not take the heat very well. The exhaust valves would start to stick. Back in the mid 1950's it happened to the people who used to thresh our grain. When the temperature was about 85 F (30 C)and running a 22x38 McCormick Deering thresher the engine would start to sputter and lose power. They would slow it down to an idle and sure enough you could hear them sticking. I was just a pre teen at the time but I was standing there and could plainly hear them sticking. The first time they let it cool down and then resumed threshing. The second time the people hauling in the sheaves got fed up and they put my uncle's W-6 on the thresher. The W-6 just purred all afternoon in the heat without a whimper. The Massey 44 was then put on hauling wagons duty. The tractor was only 3 years old when this happened. The following year it was hot again on threshing day. The same thing happened and an old Cockshutt 70 was put on the thresher. It also operated without incident. These incidents and later incidents with Massey Ferguson 35 tractors sure soured me on Massey equipment. At about the same period my uncles Massey binder didn't tie very well. Our old Deering binder always tied properly and stooking was much easier when you didn't have to re tie sheaves while stooking. Just another bad Massey memory. Three years later it was all just bad memories when we got our used McCormick 62 combine and my uncle bought a new McCormick 80 combine.

[Loadstar]

Ralph:

In our area the 44 engine could not take the heat very well. The exhaust valves would start to stick. Back in the mid 1950's

That is interesting to hear and I can't say I have ever heard it said of the 44 Masseys out this way. There were a lot of them in this country although I never did drive one myself. I drove the newer and slightly bigger triple 4.

I thought I better throw in some IH content. After posting all that Massey Harris stuff here is what the IH guys were buying when others were buying Massey 80 and 90 combines. The model 141 from 1954.

[Delta Dirt]

I swiped the 141 combine ad to my files----------my dad bought two 141s when they first came out. I am thinking that might have been prior to the year 1954??? Anyway---------they were so far ahead of the old 125 SP that he parked the 125.

I do remember Daddy converting some of the drives on the 141s to roller chain in lieu of the original belt drives---------and some of the Harvester engineering boys stopping by to take a look.

Funny----------but I don't remember the vertical suspension seat nor the radiator grill being as pictured. Anybody know what year the 141 was first introduced???

Not much combine capacity by today's standards----------but a big step forward in the 1950's.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[George 2]

Delta Dirt: Rad grilles were covered in an earlier posting. The grille shown was a prototype grille. The production grille was a big tall grille screen that stuck up several feet. There were several pictures of real 141 combines in No 3 issue of Canadian Tractor Farming in 1955. They all had the tall grilles.

[Old Binder Guy]

Delta Dirt: Rad grilles were covered in an earlier posting. The grille shown was a prototype grille. The production grille was a big tall grille screen that stuck up several feet. There were several pictures of real 141 combines in No 3 issue of Canadian Tractor Farming in 1955. They all had the tall grilles.

I'd bet that radiator grille in the ad was made for the prototype and never released and sold? Uncle Bill's 141 had the type of double rubber mounting as pictured in Ralph's ad. It was a comfortable seat too. Gary

[Loadstar]

Its too bad these threads are not searchable. We may have discussed the combine grilles before but I can't say. I can post another view of the 141 . This one from the other side. It is a 1954 ad and they refer to it as "new".

[664 CDN]

Ralph, that add is not clear enough to tell if it is powered by a Cub engine.

Here`s a picture of my Cub engine that came off a 64 combine.

have to get it running again this year.

Ray

[Loadstar]

Ralph, that add is not clear enough to tell if it is powered by a Cub engine.

Here`s a picture of my Cub engine that came off a 64 combine.

have to get it running again this year

Ray

Ray, I never realized they used a Cub engine on the small pull type combine but I guess it would be logical. Seems to me the John Deere 12A combines had a little two cylinder LA tractor engine.

Here is another view of a pull type combine in this ad for Aro grease lubricator from 1948.

[George 2]

Cub engine was standard on 64 and 76. C113 was optional.

[Loadstar]

Minneapolis Moline pull type combine in this ad from 1948. Although they don't talk about the machinery. Mostly about freedom and the men who work for MM.