George 2

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  1. George 2

    What Kept you red

    IH service support on the problem children models was much superior to Deere. IH would have update packages available to fix any design issues. Deere never fixed their problem children. Their approach was to get the customer to trade the offending machine in for the new model they had brought out. Sometimes even the new model didn't have the proper fix. It took Deere for example 3 iterations to finally get it right with the 4520 (dud). It wasn't until the 4640 that they finally got a superior tractor in that size range. Otherwise they were quite similar in parts, and quality of service repairs. Deere prices were always higher back then but that is changing now.
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    This happened to me...

  3. George 2

    5088/1486 differences?

    Watch out for 5088 differentials!!!!! I have written on here before about the ones I have seen with failed differentials from doing pinpoint turns with mounted equipment. No parts available from CIH. There is a wrecker in bootheel of Missouri who provides a conversion package to upgrade the differential with one from a larger MX Magnum that was burnt out in a cab fire.
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    Factory top links ?

    Other than CIH, the only supplier of Cat II and III top links that match the originals are from A&I and they are made in India. They match the 986 and 1086 part numbers. Priced reasonable.
  5. George 2

    What have I got here?

    Three Point Fast Hitch was the official name IH used back in 1958.
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    354 complete rehab.

    Thanks, very much. I guess it was only a rumor I heard.
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    354 complete rehab.

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    oil bath filter

    They used to use SAE-20 oil at one time.
  9. George 2

    354 complete rehab.

    For the piston rings and sleeve set what size pistons did they give you for your gas BC144 engine. Are they 3 3/8 or 3 1/2 inches? I had heard substitution of the 3 3/8 inch pistons with 3 1/2 was occurring. Did you get them on the after market and if so what supplier. Or did CIH supply them?
  10. George 2

    Vintage Ads

    Yes, there were a surprising number of them sold in eastern Canada, and particularly in Quebec. I saw them as a kid at several of the farm shows in Quebec and eastern Ontario. In fact a local collector near me has two of them stacked away in his collection.
  11. George 2

    Picking corn like in the 40's

    Seeing the picture of the 1PR and the Farmall Super H with Kansas Farmer reminded me of a story my father in law told me last year two months before he died at the ripe old age of 94. He told me his older brother had purchased a new Farmall H in 1943, and in their area of southwestern Ontario near Chatham they picked corn the same way with a hand held leather and steel glove. So in 1944 they went to the Wartime Rationing Board to get permission to buy a 1PR picker. The board put a stipulation on how many acres per year they had to harvest with it. So they started out near their place picking fields that were generally about 5 acres or less. As the fall rolled on by they got farther and farther from home in a radius that was about 15 miles away at the farthest point. By then they were into early December and it was a long cold ride until they used their car to haul fuel and themselves to the field. He remembered one particular time near Ridgetown and it was 2 AM and him and his brother were working shifts to get the job done. One slept in the car while the other one drove. That night the temp went cold down to about 20 F and he froze his fingers even with gloves and a big parka on. A few days later they met their quota for the War board. By then they also realized they had made enough money to pay for the picker and his brothers Farmall H as well as a hefty profit for to feed their family with. Meanwhile, his father was plowing the family farm with the old 10-20 so the farm work stayed on schedule also. They continued on picking smaller amounts each day until the fall closed in around December 15 and a heavy snow storm put a stop to any more corn picking. My FIL was only 20 at this time. I still find it amazing the amount of resourcefulness these young people in the WWII era had.
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    IH Tractors on Montana Farm

    This is what I know about this part naming system. During WWII the US military were dismayed at the number of parts and different systems for naming them that they had to stock to keep the war machine going. Ford had their own system that had the central numbers preceded by an alpha numeric prefix and if there was more than 1 there would be several alpha suffixes as in C1AZ -6731-A. This was the oil filter used in mid 1965 model Mercury and Ford cars. 6731 stood for an oil filter. C was for 1960 to 1969 the 1 was initial issue in 1961, AZ was for all models. The suffix at the end indicated there was only oil filter from Ford under the 6731 number. That system was developed in the 1930s. Ford was one of the few that had an organized parts system at the time. The rest were a hodge podge of alpha numeric numbers. So the US military procurement grew weary of this hodge podge and proposed several solutions. One was the GM system of 7 numbers. All I know is certain parts started with 1 (starters and generators for example), others started with 3 3tc. Then there was another system that was adopted by IH and Massey Ferguson. JD had their own system and did not change it. To this day you have no idea of what the part is by the number. I am most familiar with the IH and Massey System. The original system invoked at the end of WWII for IH used a 6 digit number followed by R1, R11, R21, R31 sometimes R41, and the usual R91. the R stood for two things R meaning revision 1 2, 3 as IN R1, R2, R3 etc. R11 usually stood for two piece assemblies. I think the R21, R31, and R41 were revisions to R11. Then the R91. The R91 referred to a part where there were several R1 parts composing all the parts in an assembly. So a 6 digit R91 assembly could have a dozen or more parts constituting the R91 assembly. IH also used the 5 digit designation for bolts and nuts and later on for whole parts. And IH would allocate batches of part numbers to the individual plants through the bills of material they were using. For instance the Tractor plants got numbers starting with 350000R1 in 1946 and continued to about 409000C1 in the early 1970's. The tillage people got numbers in the 450000R1 up to 550000R1 .Doncaster got 700000R1 to 750000 R1(I think). Hamilton got numbers for drills etc starting at 800000R1. Melrose Park got numbers in the 250000R1 to 349000R1. Not sure of trucks but I think they were in the 100000R1 or 200000R1 or construction equipment. So to an old hand like me I could tell you that a part with the 354000R1 was probably used first in about 1951. Similarly 368000R1 was first used in about 1958. And so on. By 1970, IH had gone to 7 digit numbers usually starting with 3000000R1 for the European produced tractors. They always had used the 1000000R1 for publications such as operating manuals. This was getting unwieldy so IH adopted the C designation (change) instead of R designation in the 1970 period. With the proliferation of parts in the 1970's this system lasted about 10 years before they were back again at 7 digits. By the Tenneco takeover the system was changed again to A(alteration). and the 91 designation was dropped So early Case IH parts had 6 digit numbers followed by A1, A2 for a revised version etc. When the CNH merger occurred the New Holland (FIAT) system of 8 numbers or more was used to get away from the confusing array Case and David Brown had brought to the mix of part numbers Massey-Ferguson adopted a similar system and they are still using the M (modification) as in 357323M1. Simply put they had many fewer parts than IH of Case IH had.
  13. There was a recent thread that had some discussion of piston knocking caused by scuffed pistons. I can't seem to find it. Is it still here and I am missing it or is it gone? I am interested is seeing once again what was said.
  14. George 2

    504 vs 544 round fenders

    I looked them up. The 544 uses the 381373R1 fenders on both sides. This is the same number as the 504 right hand side fender and will work for the left hand side also. The 504 on the left hand side had the same fender stamped to accept the tail light on the fender. So yes it will work but you will have to mount your tail light on the 3 pt hitch housing instead. No problem with that as many 504 were set up that way also.
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    460 Diesel Question

    I owned one 20 years ago. Very hard to start. Most were diesels here in Ontario but a lot of them ended up in salvage yards. A Farmall 460 gas is hard to find here.