664 CDN Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 I have to post a picture of my 1206 with ICB cab that was sold new in Montana, I got it about 9 years ago from Ralph`s Province SK. Big brother of your 806 Gary. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seeing the 806 and 1206 with the ICB cabs, I still wonder why the wheaties had a shorter wheelbase than the row-crop tractors, when the fields were so big and wide open. I wouldn't think that turning shorter would've mattered much. What was the thinking on that, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seeing the 806 and 1206 with the ICB cabs, I still wonder why the wheaties had a shorter wheelbase than the row-crop tractors, when the fields were so big and wide open. I wouldn't think that turning shorter would've mattered much. What was the thinking on that, anyway? They don`t turn any shorter, the bolster for the International could not mount the narrow front. The wide front on the Farmall is set out that far to work on the narrow front bolster. also the set back front is just a casting with no internal steering cylinder, so it was cheaper to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seeing the 806 and 1206 with the ICB cabs, I still wonder why the wheaties had a shorter wheelbase than the row-crop tractors, when the fields were so big and wide open. I wouldn't think that turning shorter would've mattered much. What was the thinking on that, anyway? They don`t turn any shorter, the bolster for the International could not mount the narrow front. The wide front on the Farmall is set out that far to work on the narrow front bolster. also the set back front is just a casting with no internal steering cylinder, so it was cheaper to build. Seems to me that long wheelbase might have given a smoother, less "choppy" ride than the short ones. I think the JD new generation tractors had the reversible front axle. I have seen them in both versions. Also seems to me I have seen 2390 Case with long or short wheelbase. Could it be that simple, just reverse the front axle? Here are a couple of machines that see a lot of use this time of year. Massey Harris seed drill and sprayer. Just a little bigger these days than they were in 1950. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Ray, Here are a couple photos of my 1256 with ICB cab, a cousin of your 1206! Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Gary, this is getting to be a game of oneupmanship this is a picture of my Farmall 1256 sans cab when I bought it a few years ago. its been a good tractor. BTW the old barn will be 100 years old in Aug. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 You guys have posted some nice 1256 tractors. I notice in this ad from 1974 that they do not list a 1266. I guess the 1466 was the replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Aaland Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Before the 66 tractors came out the 1256 had been replaced with the 1456. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Got one of those too, Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Ray, Those are neat tractors you have. HAVE being the key word. I put on the ones I HAD. I wonder how many 1456 tractors were made? Many, Owen? A former classmate at Moore had one. The only one I remember. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Gary, there were 5583 Farmall 1456 tractors built, but only 295 Internationals. IH was trying to phase out the International`s & build only the Farmall`s BTW that Farmall 1456 of mine came from the factory with no 3pt hitch & I will keep it that way... Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 on the 1456 is that a forged, or casted center front axle ? wonder what was the reason for angled clamps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Here is a good looking 856 from a 1968 ad. They were a popular tractor here in wheatland country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 on the 1456 is that a forged, or casted center front axle ? wonder what was the reason for angled clamps? The axle is the last style IH used on Farmalls that had the power steering rack & pinion in the front bolster casting. I have seen one on a 966 that originally had a narrow front. the axle is larger dia. tube than the older ones ,but will bolt onto the early bolsters known as the wet bolster. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 thanks Ray. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Halsall Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 This topic is up to Page 315 - it could be a website in its own right! I am enjoying the hundreds of pictures everyone has contributed so far! Regards from Michael H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Halsall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. The 656 in this Canadian advertisement has a "Western Special" badge - obviously for the wheat belt areas. The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, (no 424 apparently) I-504, ( no I-404 or I-606), I-706, I-806, I-1206 & 4100 Range is obviously different from the USA Regards from Michael H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Michael: The I606 was available here also. At the time of this advertisement the I606 was being phased out in favor of the I656. Now that I656 Western Special was not sold in eastern Canada. The Farmall 656 and the International 656 utility were sold in eastern Canada. The International 656 utility replaced the International 606 in late 1966. The International 606 was mostly a International 504 coupled to the D236 or C221 engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Michael: The International 656 Western Special was a Farmall 656 with straight drawbar and without 3 point hitch. It also had cowling around the fenders to keep the dust from below out of the operator area. There is the odd one that escaped used to eastern Canada. It also had the Farmall 656 serial numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. The 656 in this Canadian advertisement has a "Western Special" badge - obviously for the wheat belt areas. The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, (no 424 apparently) I-504, ( no I-404 or I-606), I-706, I-806, I-1206 & 4100 Range is obviously different from the USA Regards from Michael H. Michael I'm glad you find the vintage ads interesting. Obviously I like scanning and posting them here too. Here is a fairly rare, at least I never saw one, IH tractor from 1966. The 434. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A554 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. The 656 in this Canadian advertisement has a "Western Special" badge - obviously for the wheat belt areas. The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, (no 424 apparently) I-504, ( no I-404 or I-606), I-706, I-806, I-1206 & 4100 Range is obviously different from the USA Regards from Michael H. Michael I'm glad you find the vintage ads interesting. Obviously I like scanning and posting them here too. Here is a fairly rare, at least I never saw one, IH tractor from 1966. The 434. The 434 was available in Australia and was a popular tractor in the 1970s. They were replaced the British built B414 and the Australia built A414. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Halsall Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. The 656 in this Canadian advertisement has a "Western Special" badge - obviously for the wheat belt areas. The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, (no 424 apparently) I-504, ( no I-404 or I-606), I-706, I-806, I-1206 & 4100 Range is obviously different from the USA Regards from Michael H. Michael I'm glad you find the vintage ads interesting. Obviously I like scanning and posting them here too. Here is a fairly rare, at least I never saw one, IH tractor from 1966. The 434. The 434 was available in Australia and was a popular tractor in the 1970s. They were replaced the British built B414 and the Australia built A414. Australia had our own locally assembled 434 ((A-434) The Canadians would have received the UK built tractors. I saw a very rough 434 in Lancefield, Victoria when I was there in May. Regards from Michael H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, ( Australia had our own locally assembled 434 ((A-434) The Canadians would have received the UK built tractors. I saw a very rough 434 in Lancefield, Victoria when I was there in May. Regards from Michael H. I think I have seen one B414. And I do have the matchbox toy replica of the B414 from the early sixties. Here is an interesting page from the 1968 TSC catalog featuring "cold" manifolds for tractors converted from distillate to gas . I remember my dad having his John Deere D converted to gas from distillate back in the fifties. I thought by the late sixties they would have all been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A554 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The B414 tractors were available in Australia in the late 50s and early 60s. They were made in Britain and replaced the B275 tractors. The A414 was a locally made tractor and replaced the B414 and were sold in the 1960s. They were very similar to the B414 tractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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