George 2 Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 A neighbor had a MF 97 2wd and the crank broke in it. They got a crank out of the equivalent MM tractor and used it for several more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Dirt Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Massey bought the 97 from Moline------and the 98 from Oliver. Moline and Oliver marketed their identical tractors at the same time. (sorry----can't remember the Moline and Oliver model numbers). DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C. Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 General Tire had some nice colorful ads in the 1940s. That might be the wildest tread design I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 looks like they couldn`t make up their mind which design was best so they gave you two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Massey bought the 97 from Moline------and the 98 from Oliver. Moline and Oliver marketed their identical tractors at the same time. (sorry----can't remember the Moline and Oliver model numbers). DD Yes, the big Massey was a MM in red sheet metal and Massey decals. Possibly the same as this model G708. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 General Tire had some nice colorful ads in the 1940s. That might be the wildest tread design I've ever seen. They did have some unique tread designs for sure. Here is the same tread on a fancy limo back in 1947. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Back in 1968, the date of this ad, you could see a lot of this IH seeding equipment out in the fields at this time of year. The model 100 press drill and the 300 Diskall would do a good job of planting crops. Although in a wet spring like this one I would want duals on that 806 if I was pulling two diskers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ralph, Down our way that 806 would have very likely had a cab on it. And in our rocks, those press wheels on the 100 drills didn't work out well either. When a big rock got between them, they didn't come out easily. And I don't know why if it did pick up a rock, it was between the two wheels of the chain drive, stopping the drill from turning the seeding machinery, resulting in a re-seeding. My uncle had one of each; a spoked wheel and a shielded wheel drill. His furrows looked strange and he didn't like that spoked wheel drill. His were 150 shovel drills. By then, everyone had gone to shovel drills pretty much. That was "pre-air seeder" which I left the farm before. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Ralph, Down our way that 806 would have very likely had a cab on it. And in our rocks, those press wheels on the 100 drills didn't work out well either. When a big rock got between them, they didn't come out easily. And I don't know why if it did pick up a rock, it was between the two wheels of the chain drive, stopping the drill from turning the seeding machinery, resulting in a re-seeding. My uncle had one of each; a spoked wheel and a shielded wheel drill. His furrows looked strange and he didn't like that spoked wheel drill. His were 150 shovel drills. By then, everyone had gone to shovel drills pretty much. That was "pre-air seeder" which I left the farm before. Gary Gary, I've heard the press drills could have problems with rock jams. No personal experience as there was never a press drill of any type on this farm. The first drill I had anything to do with was an old JD Van Brunt from the early fifties like the one in this ad (without the press wheels). I hauled that drill home behind the 730 Case about 40 miles and 40 years ago on a warm April day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Ralph, This is Mike's old John Deere Van Brunt grain drill. It's the tall end wheel type. No press wheels here either! Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Ralph, This is Mike's old John Deere Van Brunt grain drill. It's the tall end wheel type. No press wheels here either! Gary Gary, that is an older Van Brunt drill than the one I have here. Lever lifts too. I changed the "power lift" system over to hydraulics after the first year. On a totally unrelated subject, I happened to come across this ad which mentions a subject I think you have made reference to in the past. The "monkey wrench" and how it got it's name. A 1940 ad for Glenmore Kentucky bourbon whiskey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Aaland Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 That Van Brunt drill is certainly modern compared to the one my Dad used. It is still in the old barn. Originally horse drawn but changed to a tractor hitch with the hitch from a hay loader. The wooden wheels had been replaced with steel. Seed boxes are all wood. Singe disk openers with chains dragging behind to try to cover the seed. Since it is only eight feet wide it is a good thing he usually never planted more than 20 acres of oats and alfalfa each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale560 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Ralph, Down our way that 806 would have very likely had a cab on it. And in our rocks, those press wheels on the 100 drills didn't work out well either. When a big rock got between them, they didn't come out easily. And I don't know why if it did pick up a rock, it was between the two wheels of the chain drive, stopping the drill from turning the seeding machinery, resulting in a re-seeding. My uncle had one of each; a spoked wheel and a shielded wheel drill. His furrows looked strange and he didn't like that spoked wheel drill. His were 150 shovel drills. By then, everyone had gone to shovel drills pretty much. That was "pre-air seeder" which I left the farm before. Gary Rocks didn't get along well with spoke packer wheels. Spent many hours prying rocks out of jammed wheels. If it was real bad you had to loosen the gang nut to pry the wheels apart to get the rock out. Another thing disc drills hate are fence staples horse harness chain hooks or drill drag chains. You would pry about a gallon bucket of rusty stuff off the seed disk on ih drills every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Rocks didn't get along well with spoke packer wheels. Spent many hours prying rocks out of jammed wheels. If it was real bad you had to loosen the gang nut to pry the wheels apart to get the rock out. Another thing disc drills hate are fence staples horse harness chain hooks or drill drag chains. You would pry about a gallon bucket of rusty stuff off the seed disk on ih drills every year. I don't find a lot of old iron in the fields here but do occasionally find a link from those cover chains that the drills used to drag behind. They will stick on the end of a shovel and drag. This 1967 ad shows both types IH drills. The spoke and the solid type press wheel. Disk drill and Hoe drill. Along with some tillage . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Ralph, I found a few of those cover chains as well over the years. And quite a few horseshoes. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Farms were getting automated by 1949. If you were tired of the pump handle work you could buy one of these "Monitor" gas or electric pump drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 By the date of this ad, 1964, White had already acquired Cockshutt and they were not building "real" Cockshutt tractors anymore. These were Olivers, decalled, painted and sold as Cockshutt tractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Char-lynn was about the biggest improvement anyone could add to their older tractors back in the fifties. My dad had one installed on a John Deere D and it gave hydraulic power lift to the farm implements. The older one just ran off the pto but this 1963 ad mentions a crankshaft mounted pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Ralph, Although we never had any Char-Lynn hydraulic systems on any of our tractors, I remember when they were "the talk of the farm" and I worked for two IH dealerships at different times that really impressed farmers with what these live hydraulics could do for their older tractors. We still had only belly pumps in our H and M's that mainly did only mowing or raking. But how I'd often dreamed of live hydraulics with Dad's M or one I bought from Howard Woods Implement in Hobson, with one of those old IH "no down pressure" loaders. They beat a manure fork for cleaning out a shed, but sometimes, barely. I can't find a picture of my old M, but here's an old hydraulic "contraption" no down pressure loader on Annie, my Farmall H. Of course when Dad bought his first 1952 WD-9, I got a taste of "live hydraulics." Then the 300 Utility tractor was a real dream. Even power steering on that one! Mike's 300 Utility is shown with Annie in the photo. It's still a good old tractor with its loader, power steering and fast hitch hydraulics. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark (EC,IN) Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Char-lynn was about the biggest improvement anyone could add to their older tractors back in the fifties. My dad had one installed on a John Deere D and it gave hydraulic power lift to the farm implements. The older one just ran off the pto but this 1963 ad mentions a crankshaft mounted pump. Had a Deere 60 that had Char-Lynn power steering unit when I was a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Definitely power steering was a big deal on a tractor in the fifties. A few started to offer it as an option but I have not seen many with it. This CharLynn add on power steering unit from 1968 was likely a good sideline for the implement dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Its a cold and windy morning here in Sask. with temps in the 40s. If I had to sit out on the old 44 Massey for a few hours of field work I guess I would appreciate one of these noisy old Macdonald cabs. I can still remember the days of sitting out there in the open so bundled up in heavy clothes I could hardly move yet still freezing and my face burnt up by the cold wind and dust. . This ad from 1953. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Ralph, You knew that posting that MacDonald Cab ad would bring me out of the woodwork! This was our WD-9 McCormick that had a MacDonald Cab, at the homestead (an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm!) when I was about 50 years younger. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Ralph, You knew that posting that MacDonald Cab ad would bring me out of the woodwork! This was our WD-9 McCormick that had a MacDonald Cab, at the homestead (an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm!) when I was about 50 years younger. Gary I guess you would have a little practical experience with the Macdonald cab Gary. I have never seen one in real life. Ten years later in 1963 cabs had become a little more popular but still an add on option for many such as this Minn-toba cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted June 8, 2014 Share Posted June 8, 2014 Ralph, I don't know when it happened, but it seems to me that when I bought my 1967 IH 806, if you didn't want the cab, the dealer had to delete the cab when ordering? Maybe it was later?? My 806 and my 1256 both had this early style factory IH cab. Both pictures are of the 806. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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