Michael Halsall Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The B414 tractors were available in Australia in the late 50s and early 60s. They were made in Britain and replaced the B275 tractors. The A414 was a locally made tractor and replaced the B414 and were sold in the 1960s. They were very similar to the B414 tractor. The A-414 was styled to resemble the A-554. It was presented as the "little brother" of the A-554 In Britain the B-414 had a "big brother" called the B-614. The B-614 was styled to resemble the B-414 and used a 281 cubic inch diesel engine. The B-614 was approximately the same size as the Aussie A-554 Regards from Michael H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Halsall Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Back in 1966 this 656 IH would have been a good tractor for the average sized farm here. Yet I am pretty sure the 7 and 806 out sold them. The 656 in this Canadian advertisement has a "Western Special" badge - obviously for the wheat belt areas. The header lists other models available in Canada as the B-414, (no 424 apparently) I-504, ( no I-404 or I-606), I-706, I-806, I-1206 & 4100 Range is obviously different from the USA Regards from Michael H. Michael I'm glad you find the vintage ads interesting. Obviously I like scanning and posting them here too. Here is a fairly rare, at least I never saw one, IH tractor from 1966. The 434. The Canadian advertisement lists two variants - the High Clearance and the Narrow (orchard model) The 434 narrow track is very rare. The 434 was the British equivalent of the US 424 and replaced the B-414 in Britain and other British Commonwealth countries Regards from Michael H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The B414 tractors were available in Australia in the late 50s and early 60s. They were made in Britain and replaced the B275 tractors. The A414 was a locally made tractor and replaced the B414 and were sold in the 1960s. They were very similar to the B414 tractor. Sounds about right. This Country Guide ad from 1963 shows a 504 tractor being unloaded at the farm of a proud new owner. Down at the bottom of the page you can see the B414 listed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thanks, Ralph. This is a good illustration of the Canadian lineup of small tractors. The Farmall 404, Farmall 504, International 504, International 606, and B414. The 404 and 504 series were produced from 1961 to 1967, The International 606 from 1961 to 1966, and the International B414 from 1962 to 1965. The B414 was replaced by the 434 in early 1966. The 606 was replaced by the International 656 at the beginning of 1967. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Thanks, Ralph. This is a good illustration of the Canadian lineup of small tractors. The Farmall 404, Farmall 504, International 504, International 606, and B414. The 404 and 504 series were produced from 1961 to 1967, The International 606 from 1961 to 1966, and the International B414 from 1962 to 1965. The B414 was replaced by the 434 in early 1966. The 606 was replaced by the International 656 at the beginning of 1967. The old Country Guide magazine was a pretty good source of farm machinery advertisements back in those days. This next is not really an ad but a card sent out by the local dealer in the 1950s to my uncles. They owned a Farmall M at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Thanks, Ralph. This is a good illustration of the Canadian lineup of small tractors. The Farmall 404, Farmall 504, International 504, International 606, and B414. The 404 and 504 series were produced from 1961 to 1967, The International 606 from 1961 to 1966, and the International B414 from 1962 to 1965. The B414 was replaced by the 434 in early 1966. The 606 was replaced by the International 656 at the beginning of 1967. The old Country Guide magazine was a pretty good source of farm machinery advertisements back in those days. This next is not really an ad but a card sent out by the local dealer in the 1950s to my uncles. They owned a Farmall M at the time. A little reminder to bring the M in for service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Changing the subject here. I happened to come across this IH truck ad while searching my photo files for something else and thought I better post it here before I forget where it is again. I may have posted it before in this thread for all I know but I guess its worth a repeat. 1970? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevingweq Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 What a Red Hot ad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cook Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Those really were nice pickups. Stylish, comfy, and stout. Then pretty soon the dummies quit the pickup business. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Those really were nice pickups. Stylish, comfy, and stout. Then pretty soon the dummies quit the pickup business. Ron Yes, IH had a competitive pickup truck and I am not sure why they decided to drop production of them a few years later. Maybe the competition dropped their prices and out sold IH? Note the sale price of this basic 69 Ford pickup. I saw a lot more of these Fords than Internationals here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 IH was a farm equipment company, not the place where the urban pickup buyer would check out. here`s an add for an International 1456, could be called a wheatland. I was at a neigbors on friday & he was showing me a 460 wheatland gas he bought and asked me what the difference was compared to the 460 utility his Dad had when he was a kid. Only difference I could see was no fast hitch, just a swinging drawbar like an H or an M & maybe the air cleaner was more heavy duty. But the emblem said 460 wheatland. I will have to get a picture of it. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpont Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 IH was a farm equipment company, not the place where the urban pickup buyer would check out. here`s an add for an International 1456, could be called a wheatland. I was at a neigbors on friday & he was showing me a 460 wheatland gas he bought and asked me what the difference was compared to the 460 utility his Dad had when he was a kid. Only difference I could see was no fast hitch, just a swinging drawbar like an H or an M & maybe the air cleaner was more heavy duty. But the emblem said 460 wheatland. I will have to get a picture of it. Ray 03.jpg Ray if your neighbour bought the wheatland 460 at Robert's farm quipment Consignment auction , it lacks the wheatland fenders. It was consigned by Robert H from Walkerton. Teeswater was supposed to get him a set of wheatland fenders for it but never did. They had brought the tractor from the west. Tractor had had something on it ( loader maybe?) that had meant the fenders had been removed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 If it came from Teeswater, it was probably from somewhere near Moosomin, SK. Bill's brother has ownership in a used tractor place there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Ya guys I know all that, I need picture of a 460 wheat land, it should have had fenders like an I 706. every thing else is stock 460 U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Diesel Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 The new Farmalls, A, H, M Lots of good video of them and their predecessors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Diesel Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Goodyear sales video for rubber tires on tractors. Black and white, no sound, 30 minutes. Many tractors, a lot of Farmalls. About midway it shows complete assembling of a Goodyear rear tire, the diamond pattern you see on some late 30s tractors. Has some footage of comparing steel to rubber, and field results using rubber for tillage. I think the newest I saw was an F20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ya guys I know all that, I need picture of a 460 wheat land, it should have had fenders like an I 706. every thing else is stock 460 U. Ray, I thought I did, but apparently don't have an ad scan of a 460 wheatland tractor. I seem to recall they had those funny looking fenders that appeared to be on backwards. They wrapped around the front of the rear tires rather than the rear as the bigger tractors did. Since you mentioned those closed centre tractor tires on another thread I though I would post this 1949 ad for Firestone tractor tires with the closed centre. I have never used these type tires so know nothing of how they actually performed. The ad sounds convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Closed center was good on dry ground, but turned into racing slicks if you had any mud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Back in 1968 TSC was offering a disk brake conversion kit for the Farmall M for $70. I wonder if it was a popular item? I would think it would have been a good upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cook Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Closed center was good on dry ground, but turned into racing slicks if you had any mud. Absolutely! That is the part they left out of that advertisement. We called them "turkey track" tires. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Dirt Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 We ran alot of closed center "rice/cane" treads down this way------worked real good in the mud-------but were extremely rough on the ride--------particularly so after they scalloped out from road wear (which they were prone to do). I bought a like new setto put on a 'M' with wide front end used specifically for water furrow work in the mud back in the early 70's. Great in the mud---------almost as rough as steel on the road or hard dry land. Don't see much of the "rice/cane" (R2) tread design anymore. Radials and high horsepower changed the scene. DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 We ran alot of closed center "rice/cane" treads down this way------worked real good in the mud-------but were extremely rough on the ride--------particularly so after they scalloped out from road wear (which they were prone to do). DD Lately I'm thinking we could use "rice tires" here too Anson. Considering how wet the fields have been and more rain forecast. We used to see the occasional tractor with big fat tires.. Like the first JD R diesels with 18x26 (23.1x26 in today's sizes). Saw the odd Case 900 or 930 with them too. Like the 900 in this ad from 1959. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale560 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Keep posting those ads loadstar. Dad had a 900 case when I was really young. Maybe about four years old. He had that tractor and his dads 2 cyl JDs when he started farming. He bought my moms dads 806 when he retired so had a big lineup a few 2 cylinders,an 806 900 and 1030 case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Dirt Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 L'star---- Your pot hole topography sure would be interesting to see in person. Are ya'll allowed to fill in or attempt to drain those holes?? The Delta has had lots of "alterations" to its surface over the years------always working under the premise that water runs downhill------even though the fall in elevation is sometimes barely noticeable. Drainage is our key to survival in these parts. So much row crop------most all tractors are equipped with the wide space duals down this way. No subistute for flotation--------but you gotta have some "lucky sunshine" mixed with "lucky moisture" to make that crop wherever you are. DD . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 L'star---- Your pot hole topography sure would be interesting to see in person. Are ya'll allowed to fill in or attempt to drain those holes?? The Delta has had lots of "alterations" to its surface over the years------always working under the premise that water runs downhill------even though the fall in elevation is sometimes barely noticeable. Drainage is our key to survival in these parts. DD . Interesting is one way to describe it. Some farmers do "help out" the water flow a bit at times. There are laws about this but I don't think too seriously enforced unless somebody complains. Most of the water in this area drains to the south to the Qu'appelle valley. As one slough fills up it runs over to the next one and eventually runs off my farm onto the next neighbours where the process continues. In the process a lot of land is flooded or too wet to plant. I took this photo at my brother's farm from the top of a 2000 bushel bin looking across a huge body of water that has accumulated over the past ten or so years. Those little wooden bins used to be on dry ground. As did the aluminum camper trailer and the rusty Datsun car. Plenty of water killed firewood in those dead poplar trees.. Makes it easy cutting in the winter. Just walk out on the ice and chain saw them off at the ice surface. See, I am trying to view the glass half full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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