Vintage Ads

[A554]

I have spent time with both IH B46 baler and NH 69 machines. Both were good balers and easy to work on.

I recall my FIL talking about hand tying bales with a stationery press and that must have been a really hard job. He and a brother got to do the tying as others were not quick enough to tie and keep up with the press.

I recently viewed a video with an IH B45 baler working in some oaten hay and it was interesting recalling how much slower baling was then compared to the round balers and big square machines used today.

I bet my FIL was pleased when they got a baler with a pick-up and knotters as I am sure it was a big step up from hand tying. The change to the bigger balers of today was another big step.

[696IH]

Not an ad but this is a youtube video I have found. It shows farming activities in Australia and has been made from movies taken in 1974.

It shows a year on a farm in West Australia and has a range of IH equipment, a Case 930 tractor (take note Loadstar) and a Chamberlain tractor.

The video includes the purchase and taking delivery of a new IH truck.

Very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYKl2ZTS7yg

A554 That Video was Fantastic It was filmed around Corrigin which is the area I live in. I served my time At the IH Dealer in the Vid (albeit in 2006-2011 not 1974) I'm currently racking my brain trying to work out who it was in the vid, I 'll have to show dad to see if he recognizes anyone

[Loadstar]

I bet my FIL was pleased when they got a baler with a pick-up and knotters as I am sure it was a big step up from hand tying. The change to the bigger balers of today was another big step.

Those round balers are a life saver for sure. Nearly wore out my knee joint handling small squares for years.

Getting back to harvesting, Allis Chalmers had a neat little model 66 all crop harvester in 1953 as seen in this ad from Country Guide magazine.

[Old Binder Guy]

I have spent time with both IH B46 baler and NH 69 machines. Both were good balers and easy to work on.

I recall my FIL talking about hand tying bales with a stationery press and that must have been a really hard job. He and a brother got to do the tying as others were not quick enough to tie and keep up with the press.

I recently viewed a video with an IH B45 baler working in some oaten hay and it was interesting recalling how much slower baling was then compared to the round balers and big square machines used today.

I bet my FIL was pleased when they got a baler with a pick-up and knotters as I am sure it was a big step up from hand tying. The change to the bigger balers of today was another big step.

A554,

This literature is from the Sandwich Hay Press (Baler) that my dad and his brothers once owned. The baler still exists at the Lewistown, Montana Central Flywheeler's club there.

This is an IHC hay press I photographed at Choteau, Montana a few years ago.

This is Lanceine Barnes feeding hay into the hay press at Belgrade, Montana years ago. I believe it may be an IHC, I wouldn't know?

The baler caught my attention as a kid was this Allis-Chalmers "Roto-Baler" that made "round bales." They didn't catch on very well in our area, as they were hard to stack, and in winter, ranchers complained, "They are feeding big corn cobs" to the cows. My old, late friend Oscar O. Cooke of Billings, was earlier an Allis-Chalmers zone man and had the first one of these, or prototype from AC. I believe he was involved with its inventing, somehow? Maybe not. This baler did have the patent for today's modern "round bale" and I believe they get credit for it?? Gary

[M Diesel]

Neat that the hay press is still in pretty good shape.

Just noticed that the AC Roto-Baler top piece is an "airplane wing". Took me long enough.

[Steve C.]

Just noticed that the AC Roto-Baler top piece is an "airplane wing". Took me long enough.

That was so it could fly through the field before it ate the operator.

[Old Binder Guy]

Neat that the hay press is still in pretty good shape.

Just noticed that the AC Roto-Baler top piece is an "airplane wing". Took me long enough.

M Diesel,

That does look like a section of air foil! I'm sure it helps hold the wheels on the ground, but certainly wouldn't provide drag. Probably not lift?

I went to Silver Creek again today. Mike had gotten a "roller" roller a couple years ago or more. The National Guard had a guy build it years ago, but it had since been abandoned. Mike was supposed to "dispose of it," which he did! Since he is "furloughed" as a Civil Service worker, even though for the Montana National Guard, he is "on vacation" this week (maybe longer??), courtesy of the US Senate and Congress.

When I got there, he'd already burned off some channel irons that were on the huge hopper that came on his rock crusher he bought many months ago. He was busy building a hitch out of them. He bought the rock crusher for scrap value, so this extra iron isn't hurting him a bit. The bearings came off of a cross shaft that used to operate the crusher, so there was no additional cost for the pillow block bearings. It should get pretty well finished tomorrow. Gary

[Loadstar]

I might have posted this ad for the AC roto baler here before but since we are talking about it, here is a 1955 ad. Price, $1165.

[M Diesel]

Isn't that gaining pretty hard on the price of the tractor?

[Loadstar]

I can't comment on AC tractor prices but I happen to have a dealer price book from the late fifties for Oliver. The big Oliver Super 88 standard axle tractor had a suggested list price of $4107 including the optional hydraulic system in 1958.

I don't have an ad scanned handy for the Super 88 but here is one I like even more, the even bigger Super 99. From a 1955 ad. I'd guess you would be looking at closer to $6000 right there with that GM diesel engine.

Edit........well I was pretty close in my guess. Just checked a little further into the dealer price book for 1958 and found the Super 99 listed at $5724 equipped with 18x26 rear tires. For power steering add $170.00. Add another $184. for hydraulics and that puts you just over the $6000 mark.

[M Diesel]

Hefty. I must be thinking of a decade earlier. At some point a Farmall M was ~$1200 and the MD was $1800. That 50% premium seemed a bit steep for a fellow to tackle. It's always easy to point to a farmers crop sales without considering equipment etc.

[Old Binder Guy]

Neat that the hay press is still in pretty good shape.

Just noticed that the AC Roto-Baler top piece is an "airplane wing". Took me long enough.

M Diesel,

That does look like a section of air foil! I'm sure it helps hold the wheels on the ground, but certainly wouldn't provide drag. Probably not lift?

I went to Silver Creek again today. Mike had gotten a "roller" roller a couple years ago or more. The National Guard had a guy build it years ago, but it had since been abandoned. Mike was supposed to "dispose of it," which he did! Since he is "furloughed" as a Civil Service worker, even though for the Montana National Guard, he is "on vacation" this week (maybe longer??), courtesy of the US Senate and Congress.

When I got there, he'd already burned off some channel irons that were on the huge hopper that came on his rock crusher he bought many months ago. He was busy building a hitch out of them. He bought the rock crusher for scrap value, so this extra iron isn't hurting him a bit. The bearings came off of a cross shaft that used to operate the crusher, so there was no additional cost for the pillow block bearings. It should get pretty well finished tomorrow. Gary

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I owe an apology here for my post getting pulled. I put the airfoil part here, but shouldn't have put the other part here. No wonder I couldn't find it. Gary

[Loadstar]

I owe an apology here for my post getting pulled. I put the airfoil part here, but shouldn't have put the other part here. No wonder I couldn't find it. Gary

Gary, sometimes I forget where I put things too. Easily done but no big deal.

In a discussion on another forum the subject of static electricity and flat belt drives came up and it made me think of this Goodyear "Klingtite" flat drive belt ad from 1952. Looks like an old Mini Moline running one of those "newer" threshing machines on rubber tires.

[Ron Cook]

I owe an apology here for my post getting pulled. I put the airfoil part here, but shouldn't have put the other part here. No wonder I couldn't find it. Gary

Gary, sometimes I forget where I put things too. Easily done but no big deal.

In a discussion on another forum the subject of static electricity and flat belt drives came up and it made me think of this Goodyear "Klingtite" flat drive belt ad from 1952. Looks like an old Mini Moline running one of those "newer" threshing machines on rubber tires.

Thanks for that ad, Ralph. I have one of those belts, about a 42 footer. I always wondered just how old it probably was. It works fine. It does get a little "stiff" when not used. I only use it to start stubborn tractors with. I bought it to run the buzz saw, but it seems the chain saw gets the job done first.

Ron

[Loadstar]

Thanks for that ad, Ralph. I have one of those belts, about a 42 footer. I always wondered just how old it probably was. It works fine. It does get a little "stiff" when not used. I only use it to start stubborn tractors with. I bought it to run the buzz saw, but it seems the chain saw gets the job done first.

Ron

Ron, I expect those drive belts last a very long time if kept out of the weather when not in use. I have no idea how old mine is.

Since I have been editing my Oliver Super 99 post above, here is a slightly older Oliver ad from 1948.

[twostepn2001]

Thanks for posting that Oliver ad! For years I've heard "Oliver guys" talk about a double H shift pattern. Now I know what they mean....lol

[Loadstar]

Thanks for posting that Oliver ad! For years I've heard "Oliver guys" talk about a double H shift pattern. Now I know what they mean....lol

I have no personal experience with the Oliver transmission gear pattern but it appears very similar to the six speed pattern in the Cockshutt 50 and 40 like the tractor in this ad from 1952. Same number of gears and same "double H pattern" but different placement of the speeds. Would be confusing switching back and forth between the Oliver and Cockshutt of those years.

[Old Binder Guy]

I owe an apology here for my post getting pulled. I put the airfoil part here, but shouldn't have put the other part here. No wonder I couldn't find it. Gary

Gary, sometimes I forget where I put things too. Easily done but no big deal.

In a discussion on another forum the subject of static electricity and flat belt drives came up and it made me think of this Goodyear "Klingtite" flat drive belt ad from 1952. Looks like an old Mini Moline running one of those "newer" threshing machines on rubber tires.

Ralph,

Thanks for reassuring the old timer he's not always alone, when misplacing things!

Your belt ad reminded me of my US Rubber drive belt ad.

We've got one real nice old drive belt and another that is pretty fair. This is the "pretty fair" drive belt the Case is turning the buzz saw with on September 14th with my grandson, Maverik at the throttle.

I have a little bit shorter one that acts like what Ron is describing. I don't know if there is any way to warm it, or steam it, or something that might make the rubber outside more pliable again? I fear making it just crumble, in use. We do like to use our buzz saws, as it is something simple to belt a steam engine to. Some have suggested we need to get a sawmill. If we did, I know I'd be spending the day trying to figure out why it isn't cutting the lumber correctly, instead of enjoying running the steam engines, so we haven't even tried to locate one. I think it'd just be buying another headache?? Gary

[Loadstar]

We've got one real nice old drive belt and another that is pretty fair. This is the "pretty fair" drive belt the Case is turning the buzz saw with on September 14th with my grandson, Maverik at the throttle.

Gary

I was lucky to acquire a good drive belt with a "like new" Cockshutt grain chopper attached a few years back when a neighbour was cleaning out the sheds.

Well the weather finally dried up enough to resume harvesting today so I will post an IH combine ad from 1971. The 615 and 715 IH combines appear in this one.

[Loadstar]

Being an old Ford flathead fan from way back, I liked this ad from 1952 showing not only the flathead but also the ohv "Cargo King" engines.

[Loadstar]

They are discussing old three wheeled tractors over on the IH tractors on Montana Farm thread so I dug up this Hyatts bearings ad from 1948. It features a tractor that was old even in 1948. A "Bull Pinion". Never heard of it.

[Loadstar]

There were a few of these Graham Hoemes sold around here. My uncle had one in the sixties. Hard to imagine they made them up to 45 feet wide. Not many tractors other than a crawler would handle that. Ours would have had the spring trip shanks too considering the rocks we have here. From a 1949 ad.

[twostepn2001]

That's a interesting ad for the Graham-Hoeme plow. I always thought they were more of a "regional" known plow. Back in the 50's and 60's, almost every farm around here in west Texas had a least one, sometimes 2 or 3 Hoeme's.

When I was 10 yrs old, the first time I got to drive a "big" tractor (560LP) on my own was plowing a playa lake bottom with a Hoeme.

[jordi 1455]

Nice ads.

[Loadstar]

That's a interesting ad for the Graham-Hoeme plow. I always thought they were more of a "regional" known plow. Back in the 50's and 60's, almost every farm around here in west Texas had a least one, sometimes 2 or 3 Hoeme's.

When I was 10 yrs old, the first time I got to drive a "big" tractor (560LP) on my own was plowing a playa lake bottom with a Hoeme.

It is interesting how some of these machines made their way around the farming community. I guess Kern Farm Equipment here was a distributor for a lot of different brands and types of machine.

Since we are still into harvest here, flax acres to go, I liked the description of this 1906 Gaar Scott thresher. It states that it handles damp flax well. "Feeds like a tiger."