Loadstar Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 That type of rotary mower looks more like what we use for cutting roadsides, not for putting down a windrow for baling. And I"d guess it would take at least 70 horsepower. Here is another wartime ad for General tires indicating that new tires were hard to come by and advising to get all the miles you could out of your old tires. Quote
Loadstar Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I was surprised to see in this ad that Claas advertised as being the world's largest combine manufacturer back in 1964 Quote
Loadstar Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Meanwhile, IH was producing a full line of combines that were a lot more popular here in Western Canada anyway. Quote
Loadstar Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I think the New Holland self propelled bale wagon was a pretty recent invention when this 1969 buyer's guide was published. I remember worrying that it was going to put me out of a job if everybody bought their own wagon since I was making big money hauling and stacking bales by hand (at a dollar an hour!) Quote
farmall57 Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I've wondered about the history of the New Holland bale wagons. In the '60's we had a New Holland model 2M bale wagon that hauled 36 bales. Pulled it with a Farmall 300 and hauled a zillion bales. I see on the New Holland online parts listing that the 2M is shown as being produced from 1/62 thru 12/65. It was exactly like all the modern ones just little bitty. But...my question, although ours was decaled New Holland, I am almost positive that the book we had for it had an other then New Holland name on it, leading me to believe New Holland acquired the bale wagon series from someone, anyone have any knowledge about that?? Quote
Loadstar Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 I don't recall seeing the New Holland bale wagons before the late sixties here. Prior to that a small local company manufactured and sold a very effective bale wagon that hitched behind the baler. It required a rider to stack the bales but then it unloaded just like the New Holland using the tractor hydraulics. I believe they were hundred bale stacks and could later be picked up with the same wagon and hauled home. I rode one years ago and stacked bales on it. Somewhere I may have an ad for the Anderson bale wagon.For now here is another view of the NH 1047 bale wagon Quote
A554 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 I found these IH trucks in a truck museum in Winton, Queensland. This is the first time I seen an IH fire engine like this one. Quote
A554 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 I also found these trucks at the Winton museum. The pair on the right are Fords and those on the left Chevrolet. A sign on one of the Fords described the truck as being made by Ford, Canada in September 1944. It is a F60s, a 3 ton 4x4 powered by a V8. The s denotes a short body. This truck served with the RAAF as a GS (general service) vehicle and the trucks were commonly called a Blitz. I understood these trucks were also manufatured in Australia as well. After the war they were sold and the trucks were widely used - I remember a local engineer used one as a yard crane. Quote
Loadstar Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 The quotes feature does not work yet but referring to the wartime Ford and Chev truck pictures, they are exactly like the ones my dad worked with in WWII. No ads for them but I do have this one for Studebaker trucks from WWII. Quote
Loadstar Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 I'm not sure of the model of this Gleaner combine from 1963 but it was a typical scene in Western Canada. Picking up a swath with a Melroe pickup on the header. Quote
Tonyinca Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Had a Gleaner "C"Looked and set up just like picture . Set up to do Black eyed beans .We put a new aftermarket cab on it .Did not have A/C but a strong blower. Was a very dirty process as we would cut dry beans with knives and rake them to a windrow and let sit till very dry. Ran it from about mid 60's to 1979. Tony Quote
Tonyinca Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Farmall57, The first self propelled bale wagons were called Harrow Beds manufactured approx 15 miles east of me in Fowler Ca. New holland bought them out in 70's I believe. Tony Quote
ray54 Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 Tony did you ever here the story that the Harrow bed name was because the inventor had six daughters that had all helped him haul hay until they all moved away from home,at which time he invented the automatic bale wagon.But the harrow was from the first letter of there first names.Makes a nice story but never really didn't believed it or know what part of the country it was invented in. Ray Quote
Tonyinca Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 Tony did you ever here the story that the Harrow bed name was because the inventor had six daughters that had all helped him haul hay until they all moved away from home,at which time he invented the automatic bale wagon.But the harrow was from the first letter of there first names.Makes a nice story but never really didn't believed it or know what part of the country it was invented in. Ray Yes, Its's been so long but I recall people saying it had to do with his girls. Had couple of friends that worked at factory during summer vacation in high school. I have to remind myself to call the new ones Bale wagons ,I was brought up with calling them harrow beds. They are very popular here with hay growers & dairies both small squares& big squares. Tony Quote
farmall57 Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 Thanks guys!! I have wondered what the name was on that book for 30 years. I've never heard them called a HaroBed around here, but some searching on the Internet found this thread on AgTalk that tells the story, very interesting!! http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=26559 Quote
Loadstar Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 That is some interesting history on the Harobed bale wagons. I had never heard of them and don't know if any ever found their way this far north. From the pages of the 1952 Kern Farm Equipment catalogue comes this Field Marshall tractor. Single cylinder diesel power priced at just under the hundred dollars a horsepower mark . (Until you added lights and hydraulics). Quote
ray54 Posted July 29, 2012 Posted July 29, 2012 Thank you Tony and Farmall57 ,for history of the harobed name.Would not be many small bales made in the western USA if there were not bale wagons to pick the hay up.Also a machine that is much harder to operate than you would think at first glance. Ray Quote
Loadstar Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 And I hear it takes a good baler up front to make those bale wagons work well. Loose, poorly formed bales will be hard to pick up and stack. I made a lot of bales with one of these old 270s. Not a bad machine. That bale thrower on the back of this one in the ad would have taken a little of the work out but unloading and stacking must have been work. Quote
664 CDN Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 A554, GM built the axles for all the CMP ( blitz) trucks, Sid swallows designed the cabs. Both companys built the trucks with variations such as hoods, air vents, light locations & grill gards. Those are type 13 cabs, the Ford are missing the grill gards. Most of the ones sent to Auz had the box built there. Here,s what happens to them with our winter road saltRay Quote
A554 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 An ad for a New Holland 317 baler from mid 1970s. Quote
A554 Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 A554, GM built the axles for all the CMP ( blitz) trucks, Sid swallows designed the cabs. Both companys built the trucks with variations such as hoods, air vents, light locations & grill gards. Those are type 13 cabs, the Ford are missing the grill gards. Most of the ones sent to Auz had the box built there. Here,s what happens to them with our winter road saltRay Thanks for that info. So the term "blitz" is a commonly used term - I wasn't sure about that. Quote
664 CDN Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 A554, The term (Blitz) was not used in Canada, they were known only as Army trucks. I might add that the cab designer Sid Swallows worked for Ford at the time he designed the Canadian Military Pattern trucks (CPM) to British military spec,s. Thats the reason for the right hand drive, cab over engine,4wd & those split rims, tires. There were three cab types plus a prototype. This is a Ford CMP with a type 12 cab. GM Angus shop in Quebec also built the Valentine & Canadian Ram tank that was used as a prototype for the Sherman. Ray Quote
Loadstar Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Ray, I never heard my dad refer to the trucks as "Blitz" either. He always called them "gun towers' as they used the trucks to tow the 17 pounder artillery guns. Here is one that my dad drove although that is not him in the photo. Quote
Loadstar Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 Here is the Ford line of haying equipment from 1965. I never saw many of them. Seemed that New Holland was in the majority out here. Quote
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