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[jeeper61]

Just now, MTB98 said:

My son is 650 miles away from home in college. That wouldn’t be possible. He votes with an absentee ballot.  
@dale560 and his wife are away from home due to medical reasons. They should not be allowed to vote? 

Medical reason yes school no 

You are allowed to vote in the federal election i.e president at any polling place 

I would consider showing up at a US Embassy and presenting a valid US passport be allowed for Federal elections  

The the other reform we need is no dual citizenship 

[MTB98]

1 minute ago, jeeper61 said:

You are allowed to vote in the federal election i.e president at any polling place 

That is not true. 

[acem]

1 hour ago, Board Shortener Tom said:

I recall some saying to me to vote for the lesser of 2 evils when it was presidential election time.  I always wondered why to vote for evil at all? 

 

[jeeper61]

5 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

That is not true. 

You can claim residence in that state and register to vote the same day in 24 states 

Going to school out of state and working overseas is a choice  

[acem]

6 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

My son is 650 miles away from home in college. That wouldn’t be possible. He votes with an absentee ballot.  
@dale560 and his wife are away from home due to medical reasons. They should not be allowed to vote? 

When I was in college,  we had to vote  where we lived in college (Fayetteville). I voted every time. I was not allowed to vote where my parents lived (Fort Smith) because I resided most of the year in Fayetteville.

I had a friend who ran for Fayetteville city council while in college. He was a resident. But he lost. They gerrymandered the city council districts so the college students were split up.

You should vote where you reside.

 

 

[marty966]

24 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

 

That was never. The US literally split into two countries for a few years and killed each other by the hundreds of thousands. 

The Reagan era?, 9/11?, FDR and the world events that took place during his terms of service to our country?, to mention a few, If you look abit closer that comment read (more united). Read the history of our country, seems some elected officials in the past had a better understanding of the term service instead of gratifying their own bloated egos and/or pockets. sorry if i exceeded the political tolerance of this site, moderator can delete if so.

[iowaboy1965]

1 hour ago, MTB98 said:

Students studying away from home?

People working for extended periods away from home? 

That was never. The US literally split into two countries for a few years and killed each other by the hundreds of thousands. 

I respectfully disagree. There was a time when the moral and social standards were closer together in this country.  Say from 1900 to 1960 ish. Even as late as early 1980s the standards were closer together than now. Imo. 

[lotsaIHCs]

1 hour ago, MTB98 said:

My son is 650 miles away from home in college. That wouldn’t be possible. He votes with an absentee ballot.  
@dale560 and his wife are away from home due to medical reasons. They should not be allowed to vote? 

No, that's what absentee ballots are for. Not for convenience, but for people who are physically unable to come to the polling place due to illness or disability or those who are away from their voting precinct at election time.

[MTB98]

1 hour ago, jeeper61 said:

Going to school out of state and working overseas is a choice  

You can be in the same state and still be too far away to vote in person in your home locality on Election Day.  
 

1 hour ago, acem said:

You should vote where you reside.

That can be difficult to determine. A student is in school for about half the year. If you’re a worker who works far from home most of the year you still “reside” where your home is. 

 

1 hour ago, marty966 said:

The Reagan era?, 9/11?, FDR and the world events that took place during his terms of service to our country?,

The early Reagan years the country seemed to be mostly aligned to his policies. 9/11 was short lived unity. FDR implemented a lot of policies that people didn’t agree with and broke tradition by having a third term.  
 

4 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

I respectfully disagree. There was a time when the moral and social standards were closer together in this country.  Say from 1900 to 1960 ish. Even as late as early 1980s the standards were closer together than now. Imo. 

Maybe closer but there was still much disagreement between people and the direction they wanted the country to go. I wasn’t around then so I don’t know how things really were. There was enormous social change from 1900-1960. 

[lotsaIHCs]

7 minutes ago, lotsaIHCs said:

No, that's what absentee ballots are for. Not for convenience, but for people who are physically unable to come to the polling place due to illness or disability or those who are away from their voting precinct at election time.

Don't take my comment as being in favor of mail-in voting. I believe everyone should vote at their polling place on election day. Absentee ballots and mail-in voting are 2 different things. Absentee ballots are for those who have a REASON they can't come to the polling place. Away at school, serving in the military or physically/medically unable to travel would be reasons in my humble opinion. Voting by mail just because you don't want to be inconvenienced shouldn't be considered a reason, again in my humble opinion.

[iowaboy1965]

32 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

Maybe closer but there was still much disagreement between people and the direction they wanted the country to go. I wasn’t around then so I don’t know how things really were. There was enormous social change from 1900-1960. 

Yes I fully realize there has never been 100% agreement. And I did not say that. But the basis for right and wrong and what was socially and morally acceptable was at one time more more closely aligned in a larger majority of our citizens. Not perfectly nor 100% but more closely than now. 

[cobfly]

I think there should only be absentee with cause, early in person for the week preceding the election week and election day, all with ID. No mail in.

[jeeper61]

38 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

2 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Going to school out of state and working overseas is a choice  

You can be in the same state and still be too far away to vote in person in your home locality on Election Day.  

Still not the Federal government's problem 

 

 

[Chester5732]

2 minutes ago, cobfly said:

I think there should only be absentee with cause, early in person for the week preceding the election week and election day, all with ID. No mail in.

How do you do an absentee without the mail?

[MTB98]

8 minutes ago, jeeper61 said:

Still not the Federal government's problem 

 

 

The federal government doesn’t administer elections. 

[MTB98]

16 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

But the basis for right and wrong and what was socially and morally acceptable was at one time more more closely aligned in a larger majority of our citizens. Not perfectly nor 100% but more closely than now. 

A lot of what is in place now is due to voting in changes over the last 100+ years.  The  Gidled Age was coming to an end. Women couldn’t vote until just a little over 100 years ago. Native Americans weren’t considered citizens until 1924. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed less than a lifetime ago. 
I think many folks today would not be aligned with ideologies from the early 1900s.  

[iowaboy1965]

1 minute ago, MTB98 said:

A lot of what is in place now is due to voting in changes over the last 100+ years.  The  Gidled Age was coming to an end. Women couldn’t vote until just a little over 100 years ago. Native Americans weren’t considered citizens until 1924. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed less than a lifetime ago. 
I think many folks today would not be aligned with ideologies from the early 1900s.  

That was kind of my original point bud. Tho you chose to emphasize all the negatives instead of the positives from that earlier time period. Quite telling.

[MTB98]

16 minutes ago, iowaboy1965 said:

That was kind of my original point bud. Tho you chose to emphasize all the negatives instead of the positives from that earlier time period. Quite telling.

There weren’t all positives in the “good ol’ days” just like today. At the time, those were considered radical ideas and took a long time to affect changes. 

[Sledgehammer]

3 hours ago, MTB98 said:

Students studying away from home?

People working for extended periods away from home? 

That was never. The US literally split into two countries for a few years and killed each other by the hundreds of thousands. 

There was a United States for several years before the Civil War. It was formed by people that were not greatly divided. 

1 hour ago, iowaboy1965 said:

I respectfully disagree. There was a time when the moral and social standards were closer together in this country.  Say from 1900 to 1960 ish. Even as late as early 1980s the standards were closer together than now. Imo. 

Agree 100%

1 hour ago, lotsaIHCs said:

No, that's what absentee ballots are for. Not for convenience, but for people who are physically unable to come to the polling place due to illness or disability or those who are away from their voting precinct at election time.

^^^^^Yes Sir!^^^^^^

33 minutes ago, MTB98 said:

"I think many folks today would not be aligned with ideologies from the early 1900s"

And there are many folks here today that don't align with yours, yet here you are....  

You have a RIGHT to be here because of people who voted and fought for what they believed in for this country. It doesn't matter if 198% of people find you offensive and standoffish. It's a freedom of speech. It's hard to argue that the reason we are all able to grace others with our opinions here is, at least in part due to voting. The laws centered around voting were made because people, at some point, decided to cheat. When that cheating was discovered, laws and rules were put in place accordingly. Unfortunately there aren't laws against beleaguered people who know everything that cast a shadow on an otherwise positive discussion. 

[jass1660]

And if there are minimum age requirements why not maximum? Why does anyone 75-90 plus still want to serve? It’s all how they get rich from lobbyists.

[cobfly]

55 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

How do you do an absentee without the mail?

Absentee can be done with mail or in person, but it should be by mail only with cause. I used to go to town, get my absentee ballot and mail or take it back within the allotted time frame. Simple and secure.

[Chester5732]

6 minutes ago, cobfly said:

Absentee can be done with mail or in person, but it should be by mail only with cause. I used to go to town, get my absentee ballot and mail or take it back. Simple and secure.

If you can pick up an absentee and take it back, not real likely that you need an absentee ballot. If a person can’t get out then it requires the mail.  Drop boxes are a bigger problem than the mail.  

[jeeper61]

1 hour ago, MTB98 said:

The federal government doesn’t administer elections. 

They should then we can have real election integrity

That's why some states allow same day registration and voting and others don’t. 

Then we can have consistency and no non-citizen voting 

[cobfly]

5 minutes ago, Chester5732 said:

If you can pick up an absentee and take it back, not real likely that you need an absentee ballot. If a person can’t get out then it requires the mail.  Drop boxes are a bigger problem than the mail.  

When I was on call for the railroad. Didn't know if I would be home on election day. Didn't have early voting back then.

[cobfly]

That was nice.  A nice old lady asked me what I was packing at the polls. When we were done voting we went out and she showed me her's.