Boss's new toy

[IH OAK]

Boss man picked up this mint unit the other day, he's been looking for one for years. It's got a 9 speed MW transmission. It has disk brakes which is odd because it's not a super MD. The guy also gave him this MW live hydraulic pump that, unless I'm an idiot, is too long to work on the MD/6 series engines. Has anyone had any experience with these? Also, does anyone know the engine serial break between MD and SMD?

[new guy]

Not odd to have disc brakes I don't think. My 51 M has them.

[IH OAK]

19 minutes ago, new guy said:

Not odd to have disc brakes I don't think. My 51 M has them.

Okay, I was under the impression they only came on Supers and later

[lotsaIHCs]

My straight M, 1952, has disc brakes also. I have an older M probably about a 49 with aftermarket disc brakes.

[Tobaccoman]

Here's the deal on brakes. The brakes shown on the MD are Lambert style disc brakes and could be had from the factory as shown in parts books. They are identified by having 3 bolts in the  housing verses the IH style of disc brakes having 5 bolts in housing. Super M tractors all had the IH disc brakes as did the very last few thousand regular M's. As for the M&W pump, it will fit but the distributor cap will be mighty close to the oil filter. Just be sure the pump is for a diesel and not a gas tractor in order to have the correct rotation.

[New Englander]

Nice straight tin; it's going to clean up pretty.

[Lazy WP]

You would have to have a right angle drive for starters, but I was thinking that there’s something different about the distributor on a diesel versus straight gas? It’s been ages since I messed with a gas start diesel. 

[CDN 400]

I thought only the late super's had the battery under the seat or was the diesels different?

[forwhldrv]

You may need to find a distributor like this one in the picture I’m pretty sure all the Diesels the distributor turns the opposite way from the gas tractors except on the 9 series gas motors there turn the same direction as the diesels. This pump and distributor is off a Super M I think this distributor may work to get your diesel running but it won’t have any apart advance because it’s turning the wrong direction to open the flyweights for the advance but with the gas start just running at a set idle no advance would be needed I would be sure the gear is cut the right way to fit but if intake and exhaust ports on that pump are the same I wouldn’t think it cared what direction it is turning. I have a Heisler pump and vertical distributor for an m also but no photo of it the distributor is before the pump 

[snoshoe]

45 minutes ago, forwhldrv said:

You may need to find a distributor like this one in the picture I’m pretty sure all the Diesels the distributor turns the opposite way from the gas tractors except on the 9 series gas motors there turn the same direction as the diesels. This pump and distributor is off a Super M I think this distributor may work to get your diesel running but it won’t have any apart advance because it’s turning the wrong direction to open the flyweights for the advance but with the gas start just running at a set idle no advance would be needed I would be sure the gear is cut the right way to fit but if intake and exhaust ports on that pump are the same I wouldn’t think it cared what direction it is turning. I have a Heisler pump and vertical distributor for an m also but no photo of it the distributor is before the pump 

Distributor turning backwards will put point opening and rotor out of time.

[forwhldrv]

10 hours ago, snoshoe said:

Distributor turning backwards will put point opening and rotor out of time.

Yes it does but you can get it to run we have an I9 that has a mag when we got it it did t run mag was bad so to see if we could get it to run we had a motor from an H that was stuck we robbed the distributor off it and put it on with a power wire to the coil. And got it to run it would idle fine but when under a load when throttled up would fall flat on its face. Until we rebuilt the mag and put it back on. It was something we tried to see if we could get it running before sinking money into it.