Vintage Ads

[Loadstar]

Getting Warm.JPGHere is a 1947 ad for our eastern neighbours in the cold zone.

There seems to be a problem. I am not seeing a picture.

Since I spent a good part of the day in this vintage 2090 Case tractor pushing snow I will post an ad from 1979.

Kind of easy to see where they got the Magnum hood and headlights from, isn't it?

Yes, the first "boxcar Magnums" had a real family resemblance to the 90 and 94 series Case from a few years earlier. On the hood at least.

[Loadstar]

Loadstar: I got a kick out of the Lilliston snow blower ad. We bought one new in the fall of 1968 and had it on the back of a B414 gas. The tractor had lots of power but the blower only worked well if there were about 2 inches or less of snow. To help the next year we bought a kit to mount it on the front of the tractor. It worked better but would still choke if more than about 2 inches of snow. For a few years it was taken off the tractor and left off. We got a neighbor to blow the snow. Then when I got my own farm I bought a new IH model 80 double auger with hydraulic spout control. That was in 1977 and we used it on a Farmall 656 . Believe it or not we still have that blower 38 years later and it is in use daily, lately in cold snowy Ontario.

I can well believe you have your snowblower from 38 years ago. I still use the McKee "econoplow" that my dad bought in 1976. I believe they were built down East in your part of the country. They were a pretty good line of snow blowers. John Deere sold McKee snowblowers painted and decalled as John Deeres. I think I have already posted a McKee snow blower ad somewhere back in this thread so here is another Lillston from 1967. I can't see it working at all in the hard heavy snow banks I get here. The old McKee rear mount will gradually chew it's way through any amount of snow in reverse.

[George 2]

Loadstar: That little Lilliston blower is exactly what dad had. Not a good blower as it choked in anything greater than 2 inches of snow. The McKee was made in Elmira by the McKee brothers and was the best farm blower at the time. Our neighbor sold them back in the 1962 - 1967 era. He had a new one installed on a 1963 Allis D15 Series II and a local contractor used it to clear driveways in addition to the loader on the tractor. From what I saw the McKee was one of the first to use the twin cross auger and fan combo. I was told IH tested the **** out of it before coming out with their own blowers in 1970. The IH model 80 was also tested rigorously and I have seen the photos of it sitting in 3 feet of Lake Ontario water in Hamilton bay just north of the Hamilton plant. In the picture the blower was blasting water 30 feet away.

The second comment is about your answer to rsscott about the family resemblance of the Magnum to the previous Case models. Yes, it is true that there is a resemblance to the Case styling, but what is also true is shown in the book "Red Tractors 1958-2013" by Lee Klancher. At the lower left corner of page 208 there is a photo of the alternate styling for the IH 50 series tractors if they had went instead to standard rearward air cooling as opposed to the reverse flow air cooling they went with. That photo shows a tractor very similar in style to the boxcar Magnum. In fact on looking at it closely I suspect there was some compromise to blend the Case styling and the standard rearward air cooling version of the 50 series design into the production Magnum design. As such it was the "Best of Both Worlds".

[Loadstar]

The second comment is about your answer to rsscott about the family resemblance of the Magnum to the previous Case models. Yes, it is true that there is a resemblance to the Case styling, but what is also true is shown in the book "Red Tractors 1958-2013" by Lee Klancher. At the lower left corner of page 208 there is a photo of the alternate styling for the IH 50 series tractors if they had went instead to standard rearward air cooling as opposed to the reverse flow air cooling they went with. That photo shows a tractor very similar in style to the boxcar Magnum. In fact on looking at it closely I suspect there was some compromise to blend the Case styling and the standard rearward air cooling version of the 50 series design into the production Magnum design. As such it was the "Best of Both Worlds".

Wonder how effective that reverse air flow cooling was? I still see some 88 series tractors around so I guess it must have worked.

Here is an ad from 1981. I can see the resemblance to the Magnum cab there.

[George 2]

Reverse flow cooling had its good points and it's bad points. I suppose on the whole it was neutral.

I wish I knew how to scan that photograph onto the forum so everyone who doesn't have a copy of the big "Red Tractors" book could see it.

[Loadstar]

Reverse flow cooling had its good points and it's bad points. I suppose on the whole it was neutral.

I wish I knew how to scan that photograph onto the forum so everyone who doesn't have a copy of the big "Red Tractors" book could see it.

Too big for the scanner? Maybe just take a digital photo of it?

[George 2]

Loadstar: My computer ineptness is the cause.

[Loadstar]

I wonder why IH did not use a pusher fan, instead of running the fan shaft thru the radiator.

I just assumed they had a reversed fan blade. It would seem the most logical.

Here are some more "88s". The 2+2s .

[Loadstar]

A page from my grandfather's IHC pocket notebook from about 1912 showing some of the IHC equipment available at the time.

[Loadstar]

Since we are approaching March I thought I would replay this Harvester's March Message ad featuring a 1948 KB truck. It has been one of my favourites for years.

[jordi 1455]

late 80's ad of case international tractors.

[Loadstar]

late 80's ad of case international tractors.

I never saw many of those smaller IH tractors here but I'd be happy to own one now with the front wheel assist.

Here is a slightly older and bigger ad for the "new' 86 series tractors in 1977. The 1086 was very popular here and it is not uncommon to see them still at work.

[Big Bud guy]

Loadstar, on 01 Mar 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

jordi 1455, on 28 Feb 2015 - 2:29 PM, said:

late 80's ad of case international tractors.

I never saw many of those smaller IH tractors here but I'd be happy to own one now with the front wheel assist.

Here is a slightly older and bigger ad for the "new' 86 series tractors in 1977. The 1086 was very popular here and it is not uncommon to see them still at work.

I love how the picture shows the guy about ready to catch his coat on those shifters. There was only one 86 series around here that I know of and its a 1086.

[Loadstar]

I love how the picture shows the guy about ready to catch his coat on those shifters. There was only one 86 series around here that I know of and its a 1086.

I don't think I have ever climbed into the cab of an 86 series IH. I am guessing they were not quite as roomy as the Magnum?

Here is a view of the 7 and 806 tractors back in 1964 when they were new.

[CardaleBob]

Hi Ralph: I may get excommunicated, but if you have time to spare, Google "Fraser Auction Sales Brandon" and look for Radcliffe Family Sale on July 11, 2015. CardaleBob

[Loadstar]

Hi Ralph: I may get excommunicated, but if you have time to spare, Google "Fraser Auction Sales Brandon" and look for Radcliffe Family Sale on July 11, 2015. CardaleBob

Well CardaleBob it is not a vintage ad but there is some fine vintage machinery at that auction sale. If I go to it I want to drive that 55 Buick Special home. :-)

Ok, I don't have an ad for a 55 Buick on file so rather than borrow one off the net, here is a 55 Chevy that I do have.

http://old.globalauctionguide.com/cobrand/fraser/auction/217723

[664 CDN]

I love how the picture shows the guy about ready to catch his coat on those shifters. There was only one 86 series around here that I know of and its a 1086.

I don't think I have ever climbed into the cab of an 86 series IH. I am guessing they were not quite as roomy as the Magnum?

Here is a view of the 7 and 806 tractors back in 1964 when they were new.

Ralph the 86 cab is almost identical to the Magnum cab, I have both.

Magnum has a different roof & the door opens reverse of the 86 & no shifters in the way.

You soon learn to avoid the shifters but the door on the 86 can be a pain on a windy day.

Ray

[George 2]

Ray: A minor thing. I wouldn't say "almost identical". However, the sizing and ROPS setup is identical. Door openings are also identical. However pretty much everything else is different. The roof, side console and positioning of levers, the B post and dash panel and top console are all different. Don't mean to be picky. Cheers.

[664 CDN]

George, I meant interior roominess, & the door is the same only hinged on the B post which makes entry better.

[George 2]

Thanks, Ray. Yes, the interior cu ft is the same.

[Loadstar]

Speaking of tractor cabs, a lot of these Fibro cabs were sold for tractors and combines. They had a fibreglass roof which is where the name comes from . Nothing fancy, just a shelter from the wind and sun.

[Big Bud guy]

Loadstar, on 02 Mar 2015 - 8:43 PM, said:

Speaking of tractor cabs, a lot of these Fibro cabs were sold for tractors and combines. They had a fibreglass roof which is where the name comes from . Nothing fancy, just a shelter from the wind and sun.

Never have seen one of those around here. Fiberglass technology must have improved by then because JD experimented with fiberglass cabs back in the late 40s on the soon to be introduced R. Didn't work because the cab would warp in the heat and shatter in the cold. Had to go with the steel rattle trap cab.

[Loadstar]

Loadstar, on 02 Mar 2015 - 8:43 PM, said:

Speaking of tractor cabs, a lot of these Fibro cabs were sold for tractors and combines. They had a fibreglass roof which is where the name comes from . Nothing fancy, just a shelter from the wind and sun.

Never have seen one of those around here. Fiberglass technology must have improved by then because JD experimented with fiberglass cabs back in the late 40s on the soon to be introduced R. Didn't work because the cab would warp in the heat and shatter in the cold. Had to go with the steel rattle trap cab.

Fibro cabs were built right here in Sask. so they sold a lot of them. I don't ever recall seeing one with cracked fibreglass on the roof. In fact my brother has an 830 Case with one of those cabs.

I wouldn't mind having one of these old Macdonalds for my Cockshutt tractors. From a 1954 ad.

[Brady Boy]

I scanned a bunch of these IH ads a few years ago and saved them to disk. Now I wish I had put the dates on them as it would be more interesting . When did the "new 706, 806 " series become available?

I'm a think'in 1963, at least I think that was the model year. BK

[Old Binder Guy]

Loadstar, on 02 Mar 2015 - 8:43 PM, said:

Speaking of tractor cabs, a lot of these Fibro cabs were sold for tractors and combines. They had a fibreglass roof which is where the name comes from . Nothing fancy, just a shelter from the wind and sun.

Never have seen one of those around here. Fiberglass technology must have improved by then because JD experimented with fiberglass cabs back in the late 40s on the soon to be introduced R. Didn't work because the cab would warp in the heat and shatter in the cold. Had to go with the steel rattle trap cab.

Fibro cabs were built right here in Sask. so they sold a lot of them. I don't ever recall seeing one with cracked fibreglass on the roof. In fact my brother has an 830 Case with one of those cabs.

I wouldn't mind having one of these old Macdonalds for my Cockshutt tractors. From a 1954 ad.

Ralph,

I haven't participated here much lately, as I hadn't wanted to derail the serious conversations being had by your followers. But with one of your ads of a MacDonald cab on a WD-9 or Super WD-9 and a couple of my own pictures, I couldn't control myself this time, again, for the (how many?)th time.

My uncle Audie bought a new WD-9 with a MacDonald cab in 1950 (1951 model), when he hadn't gotten his TD-40 TracTracTor completely rebuilt and back together due to some parts being on back order. So he bought the "9" and farmed with it. He enjoyed the rubber tires (18.4 X 34" "doughnut" tires as we called them) so much, travelling faster, even with a smaller load, he never went back to tracks and rails. He put the TD-40 back together and had it repainted IH red AGAIN. It had been repainted red in its WWII rebuild by the Blue Ribon program, for the former owner, who logged with it. I have no pictures of Audie's WD-9 and MacDonald cab. A cousin bought it from him years later and it is still setting in a shed over where I grew up. But I ended up with the TD-40 and, different from Blue Ribbon, painted it back to gray.

Then in 1953, Dad bought this 1952 WD-9 and got a used MacDonald cab for it. Today, we wouldn't think much of the cab, and transmission noises, but for that day, it was the hottest thing on the block! I spent lots of hours in that cab over the years.

(An IH Tractor on a Montana Farm.)

And on our kitchen wall is this Don Graytak picture of a WD-9 with MacDonald cab pulling a pair of IH #5 rod weeders. And Don always puts a twist into things he'd seen done or had done himself. It is hitting the barbed wire fence. I told Don, I've done that same exact thing, with that same exact outfit. And I spend probably close to an hour getting the wrapped barbed wire out of the right side rod weeder. I'm sorry this old timer came in here and gummed up your posting, but I had to do it (again) now. Gary