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Why would that ever break otherwise?  If anybody has time to attach me a diagram with part numbers for orings, I’d appreciate it.  I had this apart maybe 10 years and  1500hr ago.  I could have over tightened it.
At that time, the cast piece it threads into (right side seat support) had slightly cracked around the Large plug that faces forward, for unknown reason.  We found part of the screen on the relief valve Stuck in the valve.  I blamed that, as a guess at the time . Thanks. 
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I am certain I brought this upon myself though,  because I feel like last week somebody mentioned how snaprings can be rusty on top of the spool and I said they’re never rusty on my abs, So now they’re not Rusty just very very oily.

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You would probably be surprised how many cycles of load and unload have worked on that bolt.

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I had that happen on a hydro 70 once. No rhyme or reason. Get bolts from a dealer and replace all of them

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I believe there is a specific torque for those bolts. maybe 25 ft lbs?Too tight and the spools bind in the valve housing. 

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8 hours ago, stronger800 said:

 If anybody has time to attach me a diagram with part numbers for orings, I’d appreciate it

Industry dash numbers for orings, 90 durometer (hard)  any hydraulic shop has them. We keep all the dash number sizes here. IH almost always has the dash number listed in the description, just have to know what it means.....CaseIH had a great o ring numbering system which has been sidelined in favor of new system that means nothing. 

Example 238-6120, 238 tells us its a std round o ring, the last 4 numbers are hardness and dash number. 5 being a std 70 duro and 6 being a hard 90 duro. 

First 3 numbers 237- is metric size, 238 std size and 239 was square cut. 

0.103'' Thk x 1.362'' ID, -126, Cl 6, 90 Duro

-120 takes 2 per valve 

-126 1 per valve

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Thank you. I  don’t always have access  to a computer and I struggle trying tonlook up diagrams on my phone. If you can give me numbers and I can give my very good hydraulic shop Monday morning, they will hand them to me and it’s actually 40 miles closer to me than the dealer. I will call the dealer to see if they have bolts this morning and O-rings, but they are typically less than accurate on what they give me. Different tractor on that  mower for now

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5 hours ago, CIHTECH said:

Industry dash numbers for orings, 90 durometer (hard)  any hydraulic shop has them. We keep all the dash number sizes here. IH almost always has the dash number listed in the description, just have to know what it means.....CaseIH had a great o ring numbering system which has been sidelined in favor of new system that means nothing. 

Example 238-6120, 238 tells us its a std round o ring, the last 4 numbers are hardness and dash number. 5 being a std 70 duro and 6 being a hard 90 duro. 

First 3 numbers 237- is metric size, 238 std size and 239 was square cut. 

0.103'' Thk x 1.362'' ID, -126, Cl 6, 90 Duro

-120 takes 2 per valve 

-126 1 per valve

Yeah , "they" messed up a good thing when that system was scrapped in favor of a long part number that means nothing to the mechanic 

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4 hours ago, stronger800 said:

I don’t see where they have the bolts listed  one or two valves by length,?I have two valves, but it seems like 4 1/2 inch grade 8 bolts would be right.

The Unit Notes are not in the digital parts list like was in the book -- so figuring what parts are needed can be a challenge sometimes

You need about 3/4" of threads sticking thru the valve stack to get good "bite" in the threads 
-- rule of thumb is 1-1/2 times the diameter to figure minimum thread length 

Watch the valve stack move when you pull the control lever -- then you will understand why that bolt broke over time

 

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1.5x the diameter is what my engineer buddies had told me back in school  for steel yes.  We had to go to Home Depot one night at about 10pm and buy a drill press to finish a project.  Forgot the cutting oil. Cooking oil didn’t work good but we had extra bits and taps anyway .  3/4” plate lotta smoke 

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Another way is six threads is all that does you any good because of bolt stretch. I always counted 7 because the first and last thread are only 1/2.

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https://www.messicks.com/catalogs/case/1066-international-66-series-diesel-tractor-0/07-hydraulics/10-45-hydraulics-control-valve

 

They call for  3/8 x 4 5/8 grade 8 bolts.

20846R1 in 1066 parts book. Now 25786R1.

 

Case IH 1066 - INTERNATIONAL 66 SERIES DIESEL TRACTOR(01/71 - 12/78) Results:

07 - HYDRAULICS

10-41 - HYDRAULICS, AUXILIARY VALVES AND TUBES, REAR 

Part #: 25786R1 replaces #20846R1 BOLT Hex, 3/8'' - 16 x 4 5/8'', Gr 8
Part #: 25786R1 replaces #20846R1 BOLT Hex, 3/8'' - 16 x 4 5/8'', Gr 8

10-37 - HYDRAULICS, AUXILIARY VALVES AND TUBES, FRONT AND REAR 

Part #: 25786R1 replaces #20846R1 BOLT Hex, 3/8'' - 16 x 4 5/8'', Gr 8

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