IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[M Diesel]

Ooo... a box o stuff. Curiosity is killing me!

Strings?

Momma always said, Tupperware is as Tupperware does.

[Owen Aaland]

Might also depend on the size of the shovel.

[Old Binder Guy]

M Diesel,

I'm no genius when it comes to running an indicator. Here are some examples of the types that would be used on a traction engine.

This is a drawing of the indicator and the string.

This is the drawing of the valve opening and closing (duration) printed by an indicator.

Since we're showing Tupperware (wooden) boxes with "stuff" in them, this is my steam gauge dead weight tester. They had quite a few neat things back then to make engines more effective. But nothing like you posted, M Diesel! Gary

[updraft]

No doubt about it. I am impressed. When or at what intervals would an engine be analyzed with these instruments.

Charlie

[M Diesel]

Cool, I got it. Kinda surprised to see a bob weight and not a spring or at least spring assist.

[Old Binder Guy]

I have lived my entire life without an indicator. I'm still steamin'. I just finished 60 years of it in September. I'm not the brightest light in the harbor when it comes to things like operation of an indicator. For one thing, our engines will move and do what we want them to do. If we were having to make our bread and butter with it, we'd likely pay closer attention? Charlie, I think they were used when an engine acted somewhat sluggish, but I don't know? (Sorry to disappoint everyone!) Gary

[M Diesel]

It might serve better as a sales tool to get someone to spring for maintenance or new? Otherwise to demonstrate/correct problems in piping or valves but that doesn't seem as likely a use except for railroads or steamboats.

The pictures show some very nicely made gear (obviously). You just know those weren't cheap.

[Old Binder Guy]

Car wash establishments aren't new, I guess? Gary

[updraft]

That picture is a keeper. Made my day.

Charlie

[Loadstar]

This photo showed up on facebook and I thought it might fit here too . Not sure what the story is with the locomotive on a trailer but the 39 Ford sedan in the foreground caught my eye.

[M Diesel]

That top rail looks to be a skid, as if going under some lines or such?

[Old Binder Guy]

Ralph,

That's a great photo of the 1939 Ford you found on Facebook! I found this picture of a Henry J (Kaiser) in a promotional photo of some sort. I never saw a lot of them back in their day. There may have been two of them in Lewistown? Kaisers were quite common after WWII. Gary

PS: M Diesel,

That was what those boards nailed together were for... wires. This outfit just has a man on the roof. And something I don't understand is how they managed to keep the chimney intact?

This Peerless moving a house in Lewistown had a man on the roof for the wires as well.

PPS: Ralph, That was a neat old locomotive on that truck, looking top heavy!

[Old Binder Guy]

This picture shows dust bowl refugees at Miles City, Montana, enroute to Washington from North Dakota, in the "dirty thirties."

I sure miss the old steam locomotives I grew so used to as a younger person, on a multiple daily basis. This is a March 1943 Atcheson, Topeka and Santa Fe steam locomotive between Chicago and Chillicothe, Illinois.

I'd mentioned the fuel pump and carburetor placement on the F-12 a few days ago. I forgot to post this photo then. It is an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm! Gary

[664 CDN]

Gary, I counted 34 pairs of wires on the telegraph poles.

[Old Binder Guy]

Ray,

I went back through the pictures of moving houses, then found the locomotive photo!

Charlie,

Tell us what you know about this New York Central "locomotive." It'd have to be hot sitting beside the windows..... and the boiler. Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I don't know much today. I'm moving slowly. I recently went slumming at a couple of local shops. One a fine antique shop and the other more of a second hand store. At the antique store was this beautiful brass (and a little glass) surveyor's transit. I've always thought I wanted one, but they've shot out of my price range. They have a $595 price tag on this one without any tripod.

This is a brand new 2" X 1-1/2" brass water pump that is unused. I was thinking of someone restoring an antique tractor who could use one of these in their cooling system? I've seen them in use there. Maybe "Ol' Roger" may even will know someone who may need one? I've known the day when I'd loved to have owned the gas tractor (hit & miss?) that would use one of these? Maybe it is too small for that usage? I guess I just like shiny old (new in this case) junk! Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

These pictures kind of go with my last post of binding and binders on Ralph's thread. Mike is headed to thresh with the 15hp Case and the threshing machine that he would one day own. This was in 1989, as we were celebrating the statehood centennial of Montana.

This was taken the same day by a real photographer. One of my favorite pictures of the Case threshing and that IH Six Speed Special standing tall in the background.

This is another photo of threshing near Columbia Falls, Montana at a NWAPA show in the 1980's. Dan Tombrink was my thresherman, atop the 22" McCormick-Deering threshing machine. One of the members had his "clean as a pin" R-160 IH truck under the spout. Gary

[updraft]

Ray,

I went back through the pictures of moving houses, then found the locomotive photo!

Charlie,

Tell us what you know about this New York Central "locomotive." It'd have to be hot sitting beside the windows..... and the boiler. Gary

New York Central RR Passenger, observation locomotive.jpg

Do not know a thing about this Ls & MS, New York Central Engine #30, Gary, except it seems to be described as a Hybrid Passenger Engine. It may have been used on a passenger excursion from Cleveland to New York City, but not at all sure of that. I just saw mention of that somewhere in my searches. I find tons of history on the LS and MS RR and it's Lake shore line from Buffalo to Cleveland and west to the Michigan shore and the joining with NYC RR to eventually have a NYCity to Chicago line. The photo you posted is common on the net but seems to be the only one of that engine. I agree with you that it may have been a hot ride. The photo is from 1910 based on what I have found.

On another subject: I may move to California to sign up for this pension plan. There is gold in them there hills!

[Old Binder Guy]

Charlie,

That's quite a "steam locomotive" sedan! Here is a Norfolk & Western gas powered "steam truck" they used for parades.

The British have been building Lorries for some time.

This is an Australian steam outfit. Gary

PS: These aren't nearly as fancy as the sedan you posted, Charlie!

[updraft]

Gary,

Your gas powered steam truck triggered my mind to the similar 40/8 vehicle which it seems I have seen at parades since I was a kid. It is always a big hit as Veterans ride in the back and throw out handfuls of candy for the kids as it passes. Nice touch, with the noise and the bell clanging. Always popular for many reasons.

I think this has had a restoration since I last saw it. I recall somewhat rougher looking and flat black paint. Purty now.

Charlie

[Old Binder Guy]

Charlie,

Helena has three trains. One is old and quite plain. This one is older and still quite plain, although not as much as the original.

This is the newest tour train, which I stole from their website. Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I remember at the one room Glengarry school in circa 1950-51, a brand new song came out that I really liked and every time I see "white" outside (like this morning) "It's a Marshmallow World in the Winter...." starts going around inside my mind. Sharon says it does in her mind as well. I took this picture about 45 minutes ago with my phone, then emailed it to this computer. And while I know "misery loves company", I have a hunch we're not the only ones who had this storm rush down upon them from Alaska?

I just came from Ralph's site and posting Massey Harris binders. I had to steal the Rumely steam engine plowing one for here as well. Pulling seven bottoms, it is likely a 25 hp steam engine. Of course the horses are pulling the Massey Harris binder.

This was another Massey Harris binder situation Ralph posted a while back. It's interesting to see the 30-60 Hart Parr oil tractor pulling a six bottom John Deere plow, but also the Massey Harris binder behind that. I see a shock (stook?) at right in the plowed ground. That had to keep a shocker (stooker?) busy keeping the dumped pile of bundles (sheaves?) out of the road of the tractor and plow? Maybe not? Ralph must have a shed with nothing but old machinery literature stacked in it? Gary

[Loadstar]

I remember at the one room Glengarry school in circa 1950-51, a brand new song came out that I really liked and every time I see "white" outside (like this morning) "It's a Marshmallow World in the Winter...." starts going around inside my mind. Ralph must have a shed with nothing but old machinery literature stacked in it? Gary

Gary, that same song runs through my mind when I see snow, but I associate it with Dean Martin in the sixties. You have us beat for snow but that is fine, I can wait.

I only wish I was so organized as to have a shed full of vintage machinery literature and ads. Mine is scattered at random here and there in the house and sheds, basement, attics, etc. There are some that I find and save off the net just because I like them and it is so easy to do. Like this Goodison threshing machine. Appears to be of wooden construction. I can't read the second part of the name, Goodison-Sad??

[updraft]

, Ralph,

Here is some history.

http://www.engineeringhistory.on.ca/index.php?id=10

Charlie

[40FarmallM]

I have a request for you guys who never seize to amaze me in the pictures you have. I am pretty interested in 3 different IH tractors because their the 3 my grandpa marveled over when we were farming with a A and a 4020. He said that a neighbor had a 4366 IH that would "walk the dog all day" with 8 bottoms behind it. I've always wanted to see good pictures especially the cab of them and can't really find a good one. He said it had a 10 speed road ranger In it which seems to be true but kinda weird. He said there was also a 1468 in the neighborhood that was his favorite watching the big twin stacks March he said he spent several hours of seat time on one but can't seem to find pictures of it it had a cab and dualls and the last a 1066 Hydro with a narrow front end and a cab he said it looked stupid but I'd think that this tractor would look cool just seeing if you guys may have a picture of any of these 3 tractors.