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1 hour ago, mrfred54 said:

32 years ago,cousin's son was raking hay with a fender less M. Hit a ground hog den and threw him against the rear wheel which grabbed him and under the wheel he went. Layed in a hospital for 16 days before passing. So I WILL NOT DRIVE A TRACTOR WITHOUT FENDERS. Every time I see a tractor without them scares the he'll out of me, I've seen what can happen. So, yes each to their own

Not even the worst story I’ve heard on that 

a friend of my dad, had 2 sons, I believe 14 and 17 

they were drilling post holes with a 9n ford, 1 brother left for a second, came back to older brother wrapped around the auger, doa 

a year later younger son was shredding on the same 9n, went under a tree got knocked off and went under the shredder, his dad found him that afternoon doa 

Sorry OP for high jacking your thread, but it’s worth noting that these old tractors, while tons of fun, can be dangerous if not respected 

 

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9 hours ago, KillDevilBill said:

I hope that 2" strap on the M hood isn't very tight!!

There's a tractor junkyard not to far from here. Shopping list includes fenders, Mason jar pre cleaner and battery box lid.

I bought a brand new powder coated battery box lid from Steiner. It honestly looks stupid on this tractor. It's the only thing shiny red.

Actually if anyone needs it, I'd trade for a used one in good shape!

Yeah it’s to keep the hood from flying off lol, ask me how I know this lol

 

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 In the process of getting it running again after breaking the distillate exhaust manifold. Bought a new gas manifold that's out getting ceramic coated.

 Since I plan on my city born and raised grandsons driving this tractor, fenders are going to be a must, not an option. The middle boy could get hurt in a bubble wrap warehouse.

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New brake seals on both sides but only half done with brakes.

Not nearly as easy as I thought it was going to be. Nothing difficult, just fighting with 80 years of rust and crud.

Enjoying "working" on this ole gal though!

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Put on your "Round-to-it" project list is the water plate behind the carburetor.

Yours is probably original and is normally rusted away inside.

When off, clean the junk out of the block and replace the plate. 

Will help it cool better. 

Glad to see another H in it's work clothes.

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On 12/31/2025 at 4:07 PM, snoshoe said:

Just so you know. That thick washer on the clamp bolt is supposed to be between the clamp ears and is the shaft key.

I looked into this yesterday. There's a woodruff key in there now, it's only up into the u-joint about 1/16" I don't like it, I'll be putting it back like its supposed to be. It probably would have been fine for years to come, but now that I know its wrong, it'll break next time I turn the wheel. 

9 hours ago, Diesel Doctor said:

Put on your "Round-to-it" project list is the water plate behind the carburetor.

Yours is probably original and is normally rusted away inside.

When off, clean the junk out of the block and replace the plate. 

Will help it cool better. 

Glad to see another H in it's work clothes.

This sounds like a good thing to do now. I have the new manifold out getting ceramic coated, so that entire side of the engine is exposed. I "assumed" that cover was for the lifters, never realized what it was actually for until now. Lifter cover is on the other side! Didn't know that. Since I'm this far along, would it be better to just replace the whole thing?

Fred is staying in his work clothes, but I am throwing them in the washing machine. LOL

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5 hours ago, KillDevilBill said:

I looked into this yesterday. There's a woodruff key in there now, it's only up into the u-joint about 1/16" I don't like it, I'll be putting it back like its supposed to be. It probably would have been fine for years to come, but now that I know its wrong, it'll break next time I turn the wheel. 

It's not a break thing. It's a joint will slip off end of shaft thing. It has happened to me bringing customers tractor into shop. When pushing clutch and brake pedals at the same time. You tend to pull on steering wheel to keep yourself upright. When steering wheel suddenly comes at you. Your feet come off the pedals and you tip off the back of the seat. Bolt through the washer and in the keyway prevents that.

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7 minutes ago, snoshoe said:

It's not a break thing. It's a joint will slip off end of shaft thing. It has happened to me bringing customers tractor into shop. When pushing clutch and brake pedals at the same time. You tend to pull on steering wheel to keep yourself upright. When steering wheel suddenly comes at you. Your feet come off the pedals and you tip off the back of the seat. Bolt through the washer and in the keyway prevents that.

Ok, all the more reason to fix it then. That little woodruff key in there isn't preventing the issue that you described at all!

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1 hour ago, snoshoe said:

It's not a break thing. It's a joint will slip off end of shaft thing. It has happened to me bringing customers tractor into shop. When pushing clutch and brake pedals at the same time. You tend to pull on steering wheel to keep yourself upright. When steering wheel suddenly comes at you. Your feet come off the pedals and you tip off the back of the seat. Bolt through the washer and in the keyway prevents that.

This is one of those very simple but genius things that some engineer came up with.

I put that washer in many times and never really knew why it was there. 

And now it makes perfect sense.

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Congrats on the tractor and making it your own. 

I owned a 1951 John Deere B as my 1st tractor. The seat hugged you, and the fenders were tall. I felt secure on that tractor.

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I sold that tractor for a 51 M.  The seat pan on the spring, and low fenders still give me shivers a little. 

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I work for a tree cutting company. 4 years ago I was at a different company. I was parked on the street with a dump truck hauling a skidloader. Strob lights and hazards on, safety vest, cones, and sign out. I was next to the trailer had my head  down untwisting the chain binder. A high school driver drove through the cones, partly on the trail, came down and ran me over and dragged me 10 ft when I was trying to run away.

We always had monthly safety meetings at work and discussed stories like those that happen somewhere and you always think " no not me, I'm safe, I'm smart, I do everything right" but it can be you, your brother, husband, or son.

With that said you can be the safest person and do everything right and if something is going to happen it's going to happen ( the only thing the lights, cones, vest, and sign helped me  with was the insurance couldn't accuse me of not being visible).  You can drive yourself nuts looking at worse case scenario and playing what if's, or you do what you want to do and try to be smart about it.

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On 1/23/2026 at 8:54 PM, FoxrunFarms02 said:

Congrats on the tractor and making it your own. 

I owned a 1951 John Deere B as my 1st tractor. The seat hugged you, and the fenders were tall. I felt secure on that tractor.

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I sold that tractor for a 51 M.  The seat pan on the spring, and low fenders still give me shivers a little. 

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I work for a tree cutting company. 4 years ago I was at a different company. I was parked on the street with a dump truck hauling a skidloader. Strob lights and hazards on, safety vest, cones, and sign out. I was next to the trailer had my head  down untwisting the chain binder. A high school driver drove through the cones, partly on the trail, came down and ran me over and dragged me 10 ft when I was trying to run away.

We always had monthly safety meetings at work and discussed stories like those that happen somewhere and you always think " no not me, I'm safe, I'm smart, I do everything right" but it can be you, your brother, husband, or son.

With that said you can be the safest person and do everything right and if something is going to happen it's going to happen ( the only thing the lights, cones, vest, and sign helped me  with was the insurance couldn't accuse me of not being visible).  You can drive yourself nuts looking at worse case scenario and playing what if's, or you do what you want to do and try to be smart about it.

I'm a retired firefighter, 33 years on the job. I've seen people do some pretty dumb things. NEVER turn your back on traffic. These days I work as a truck driver for a construction company. I'm up on the trailer undoing the binders. I do agree with you though, when it's your turn, it's your turn and it doesn't matter what you're doing.

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11 hours ago, KillDevilBill said:

I'm a retired firefighter, 33 years on the job. I've seen people do some pretty dumb things. NEVER turn your back on traffic. These days I work as a truck driver for a construction company. I'm up on the trailer undoing the binders. I do agree with you though, when it's your turn, it's your turn and it doesn't matter what you're doing.

Thank you for your service.  Crazy that literally seconds before,the other guy helping me had his back turned pulling down the ramps...... could've  been crushed .I never usually have help unloading,  and always folded down the ramps last incase something like this would've happened ......not saying the trailer could push me down and pin me either. You think you're " safe" with cones and signs but they're not cement barriers. Sadly this wasn't a wake up call to my employer on road safety at all. At my current job I make sure to have a blocker vehicle behind me, or have the truck facing oncoming traffic to block me, and stand on the deck......even though the kid went up on the trailer in my experience. 

It was crazy how much investigation went into the accident, drone footage, calls to the national weather service for sun measurements,  any little paint chip or broken pieces of the pick up truck was circled in the street. The dot talked to my employer. 1 guy said to have binders on the passenger side, but then another guy said you'd still be pulling the chain through on the opposite side. They also suggested flipping the truck around like I do now, but in most cases if something happens you were parked " illegally "......which a fine is better than your life. I was at 0 fault  though in the investigation. 

It's sad how sleazy insurance companies are. I was up in the air going to a truma center and what was left of my phone rung......a few days later after I listened to the voicemail. It was the kids insurance " hey buddy we heard what happened, we need a statement from you, we want to know if you had cones out and neon ppe,and also just to let you know your vehicle was too big to be parked there, and our client was blinded by the sun and that's an act of God so he's not at fault"

I knew then and there I needed a lawyer.  They called when I was out of it and loopy so they were hoping I'd forget something in my statement, and they were hoping I didn't have cones out to say " you didn't protect yourself"......not that that gives anyone the okay to run someone over though. 

 

It's been almost 5 years with 3 surgeries and I'm not 100% the old me, but a new me with a better aspect of life, and if most days I have to limp or grind my teeth I feel pretty fortunate. Almost 5 years and finally having court.  Name of the game is never leave the house mad, don't go above and beyond for your employer, and always cover your back.

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Got it running again, but I have fuel running out of the carb. All I did was clean 80 years of crud off, now the float is stuck (a guess). Can anyone tell which carb this is by looking? Going to order a rebuild kit, but I know they put several different carbs on these. This is a distillate tractor .

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Nice project , see your in Ohio, that’s a plus ,I might see it. 

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Is that a nitrous button on the hurst shifter or a diff lock? 
 

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On 12/31/2025 at 4:07 PM, snoshoe said:

Just so you know. That thick washer on the clamp bolt is supposed to be between the clamp ears and is the shaft key.

Fixed! Thanks again!PXL_20260228_160738744_MP.thumb.jpg.c4756277693a8c3e9522c32d7a2ec52a.jpg

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Posted
4 hours ago, 560Dennis said:

Is that a nitrous button on the hurst shifter or a diff lock? 
 

Haven't decided yet. Probably nitrous, I have some stuff laying around.

Got it backed out of the shop, under its own power! Pressure washed and back inside. It's definitely coming around to my way of thinking.PXL_20260228_181250808.NIGHT.thumb.jpg.01cfdfac697f00bb5c522a31d00c8427.jpgPXL_20260228_181053285_MP.thumb.jpg.1fbfb662a107cd46941e2a843dfb3202.jpg

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2 hours ago, KillDevilBill said:

Haven't decided yet. Probably nitrous, I have some stuff laying around.

Got it backed out of the shop, under its own power! Pressure washed and back inside. It's definitely coming around to my way of thinking.PXL_20260228_181250808.NIGHT.thumb.jpg.01cfdfac697f00bb5c522a31d00c8427.jpgPXL_20260228_181053285_MP.thumb.jpg.1fbfb662a107cd46941e2a843dfb3202.jpg

Got motorcycle c bottles ,  goes into the air cleaner I think ?🤔 

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On 2/2/2026 at 10:27 PM, KillDevilBill said:

More hot rod stuff. Got the manifold back from getting ceramic coated. Now to get Fred running again...

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He’s gonna bark!!!

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On 3/1/2026 at 2:15 PM, MT Matt said:

He’s gonna bark!!!

Oh he sure does! At an idle you can literally hear each cylinder fire. Lol

Test run with new decals on old paint. I'm really liking this.PXL_20260314_210414945_MP.thumb.jpg.51e0f8ff80946930e6829a7242444857.jpg

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1 hour ago, KillDevilBill said:

Oh he sure does! At an idle you can literally hear each cylinder fire. Lol

Test run with new decals on old paint. I'm really liking this.PXL_20260314_210414945_MP.thumb.jpg.51e0f8ff80946930e6829a7242444857.jpg

I did the same thing with my SMTA, put new vinyl decals on. I cleaned the surface with CLR. Then sprayed clear coat over the area to seal it. Applied the decals. It’s been going on 6 years now and they’ve held up fine. I think the clear was a matte finish so it doesn’t stand out. But I didn’t have any paint left.  I just sprayed the area under the decal, not all of it.

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First of all, welcome to the forum! 

Talking of JD fenders on IH tractors, these are on my 450 -

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I don't think they look too bad... but if I ever remove the wide front and go to a narrow, the fenders will probably go. Fenders on NFE tractors just look funny to me. 

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8 hours ago, MT Matt said:

I did the same thing with my SMTA, put new vinyl decals on. I cleaned the surface with CLR. Then sprayed clear coat over the area to seal it. Applied the decals. It’s been going on 6 years now and they’ve held up fine. I think the clear was a matte finish so it doesn’t stand out. But I didn’t have any paint left.  I just sprayed the area under the decal, not all of it.

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You just made the decision for me. I really liked it, after seeing your SMTA I love it!

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