IH Tractors on Montana Farm

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I actually turned some soil today for the first time. Not making any dust just yet like they are in Montana..

Well I got raising some dust over the weekend Ralph, also got the urea on the winter wheat.

Sunny till Fri. in the forcast here.

Steve,s 1486 on the 21' vibrashank

B T W it came from SK.

I was working alone so did,nt get a pic of the dust.

Ray

[Old Binder Guy]

I was gone most of today, but wanted to post something. These are encore, but they are historic. Hart-Parr gas tractor #1 and an early Hart-Parr portable power plant with Charles Hart standing left of it. Gary

[Loadstar]

Well I got raising some dust over the weekend Ralph, also got the urea on the winter wheat.

Sunny till Fri. in the forcast here.

Steve,s 1486 on the 21' vibrashank

B T W it came from SK.

I was working alone so did,nt get a pic of the dust.

Ray

Ray, lucky you having a good weather forecast. Not looking too good here for a few days. Saw the first air drill working today. Not seeing any dust though.

Gary, whenever you mention Hart Parr it makes me think of the big old gas burner that runs the threshing machine at the Motherwell historic site when they have their demo. I'm pretty sure I've posted pics of it before and don't have any handy right now.

What I do have is this great looking 51 Chev "Ute" Too bad they never marketed them in North America until 1959. (El Camino).

[Old Binder Guy]

Ralph, the Hart-Parr I mention is the same one you're thinking of at Motherwell. Different tractor, but same company. The tractor I posted last night is their prototype or #1 tractor. They built many like Motherwell and they were considered an extremely succesful and reliable (nicknamed "Old Reliable"), dependable tractor. I love to listen to them run.

I wish I could go shopping here today! I remember seeing the Henry & John Torske "used steam engine" lot at Conrad, Montana. In the 1950s, steam engines were quite prolific in Montana's rural areas, so the Torske brothers would buy steam engines, haul them to town and put them up for sale on this lot. I know of several engines that went out from this lot. Gary

[Loadstar]

Ralph, the Hart-Parr I mention is the same one you're thinking of at Motherwell.I wish I could go shopping here today! I remember seeing the Henry & John Torske "used steam engine" lot at Conrad, Montana. In the 1950s, steam engines were quite prolific in Montana's rural areas, so the Torske brothers would buy steam engines, haul them to town and put them up for sale on this lot. I know of several engines that went out from this lot. Gary

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Used steam engine lot. Something I'd never even considered but I guess there was a time. The heat from that firebox and boiler would feel pretty good today. With temps in the 40s, cloudy and strong north winds it is miserable out there.

Turns out I do have a pic of the Hart Parr back about 1988 when we were there . I also have a short video of them starting and running the old tractor.

[Old Binder Guy]

Ralph,

They sure have that Old Reliable Hart Parr dressed up nice. Thanks for finding that picture! I also forgot to remark about that 1951 Chevy UTE or El Camino. You could explain that one a little further for a thick old head like mine.

This is George Bradley's 15hp Case, engineered by his sons and headed to his sawmill down in the Rosebud River country of Montana, a few years ago. Gary

[Roger Byrne]

Gary, I'm a little surprised that you never heard of a Ute. The term comes from Australia and New Zealand and is short for "coupe utility" and it is a light pick-up generally based on a car chassis. The Ute is considered an Australian & New Zealand icon because the coupe utility was originally invented there by James Freeland Leacock. They were first built by Ford Australia. They even have a club in the US and here is the link: http://www.uteusa.com/

I've attached a few items dealing with Utes including an IHC version.

[Loadstar]

Gary, I'm a little surprised that you never heard of a Ute. The term comes from Australia and New Zealand and is short for "coupe utility" and it is a light pick-up generally based on a car chassis. The Ute is considered an Australian & New Zealand icon because the coupe utility was originally invented there by James Freeland Leacock. They were first built by Ford Australia. They even have a club in the US and here is the link: http://www.uteusa.com/

I've attached a few items dealing with Utes including an IHC version.

Thanks for the pics Roger, saved me looking them up. I knew I had seen an IH version somewhere before. These looked like a nice handy vehicle and I'm surprised they didn't show up here in North America sooner. No doubt Ford and GM were inspired to build their Ranchero and El Caminos after seeing how popular the Aussie's Utes were.

Heres one you left out, the GM Holden.

[Old Binder Guy]

Ute...... Hmmmmm. I guess that shows you how far off of the beaten track Montana is. I guess you can't get there from here. However, I guess that would explain the old 1940s Hudson "Ute" that used to be in Lewistown. Everytime I saw it, I thought the guy was pretty handy as a bodyman, but learned in later years it was a Hudson production item. I did have a 1926 Model T Roadster Pickup years ago at Lewistown. That must have been a Pre-Ute? Thanks for straightening out (or attempting to) my head, Roger & Ralph. Gary

[Delta Dirt]

I had stopped by the local Co-Op this afternoon and saw a sign posted on the front stating:

50 lb bag

Cow Manure

$4.95

Don't know why I thought of several participants on this thread---------but it ran through my mind that some of those ol' boys ought to be extemely wealthy-----what with "cow manure" selling for $4.95; "pure unadulterated Bull Manure" should bring close to $10.00 !!!

I am planning on starting up a bagging machine tomorrow and capitalize on the abundance of this product that is so readily available here.

Big River getting bigger everyday---------numerous seepages and sand boils all up and down the Levees. Lots of furious activty by the Levee Boards and Corps personnel, and volunteers to contain them. River has crested at Memphis-----but they bumped the Greenville crest level up another 0.5 ft today. Crest level will be near all time record high reading. (and that's a serious message)

And-----I see the fires are still burning out West. We don't need their fires-----but sure wish we could share some of this water.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[Roger Byrne]

Anson. . . . I can imagine you're right on your "fertilizer" comments. . . certainly some here would qualify for a PHD in the subject. . . Piled High & Deep that is.

I know it's too early for the first crop of hay, but these photos of an early Fordson Model F with a new mounted mower were posted on the MTFCA Forum so I thought I'd pass them on. With the front steel wheels (not cast iron as on later ones), no fenders and the gas tank only having one compartment, I'm guessing this is one was built somewhere around 1918 to 1921.

Now to be "politically correct" on this forum I've included an International tractor in Montana also getting some hay cut. This tractor belongs to Stan Howe of Helena, MT and is in OBG's back yard.

[Old Binder Guy]

Delta Dirt and Roger... PHD. You two do that well! I know Anson would never think it, but Roger probably put those three letters after my name, at least in his head?

Roger, it's good you can communicate with Stan Howe. He ignores me, but I like that IH tractor and the landscape. Is that a 350 gas or a 350 diesel with that muffler upwards? Somebody on here will know. I also liked that Fordson mower photo with the grass board. I think I did a pretty fair job on the one I fabricated, since I did it from a photo. Gary

PS: I got the TD-40 running impeccably yesterday. Now I can leave it with the fuel valve turned on and start it anytime I need to.

Also tomorrow, I'll haul the Model TT and the F-12 to Jacob's school. How many schools have an Annual Agriculture Day? His does and I decided to participate with a little historical ag.

[Roger Byrne]

You got that right OBG. . . let's see know, Gary Yaeger PHD . . . I guess that's why they call you "The Professor"!

[Loadstar]

You got that right OBG. . . let's see know, Gary Yaeger PHD . . . I guess that's why they call you "The Professor"!

Must be a regional difference. Up here a PHD qualifies you as a "privy hole digger".

Anson, by the prices you quote for cow manure, I guess I have my retirement fund building up out in the pasture back of the cattle shelter.

Another pic of a "ute". This one an early fifties Dodge.

[Old Binder Guy]

You got that right OBG. . . let's see know, Gary Yaeger PHD . . . I guess that's why they call you "The Professor"!

But, Roger, Anson is the one who calls me "professor." On facebook I list my further education as "School of Hard Knocks" and my foreign language skills as "Ig-pay Atin-lay." Gary

By the way, we're heading out of town for several days next week and part of the week thereafter.

And Tubacase47... My heart is with you in the loss of your mother. I heard yesterday from Corky that it had happened. My deepest sympathy to you, Tom.

[Delta Dirt]

Our condolences to TubaCase for the loss of his mother----when a man looses his mother, he has just lost his best friend. Your mother will take up for you even when she knows you are wrong----------nothing much stronger than a mother's love.

All Professor's have to have a PHD. That's alright Professor-----we are not going to ask to see your paperwork; we feel confident that you have your PHD.

And--------------as I pointed out in an earlier post sometime way back; Roger and myself did not invent Bull Manure (as it was insinuated)---------------we just merely worked on perfecting it!!!! (that being my primary contribution to mankind so far in this 68 yrs of life)------------really think I just took up space and breathed up air for today. Maybe tomorrow will be a faster day.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[Tubacase47]

Actually guys, PhD stands for Piled Higher and Deeper which is what we do in this thread.

[Old Binder Guy]

I have an ammend to make... I thought of how I stuck my foot in my mouth about my new friend Stanton Howe. He's a nice guy, just over his head in rusty junk like the rest of us types. I'd emailed and called him, but never heard much of anything back. I looked up his number and address in the phone book this morning and stopped by his place on my way out to Silver Creek today. He's a nice guy and about Anson's age too. (I'm the baby of us three!) He has Model T parts a plenty and his shop is something else. He had a Ruxtell Axle on a stand today that he'd been working on. He is a Ruxtell and an carburetor specialist. I could kill a day, just digging through things in his parts storage shed.

When I'd emailed him, I noticed he'd written a short letter to the editor of Farm Collector. I mentioned that we had something in common as I'd written that article about steam on our farm, over in the Judith Basin early in the last century. I didn't get a return email. But today, he mentioned we had something in common. He asked if I'd received my new Farm Collector. I said I'd just gotten it last night.... And it's in the car right now! He asked if I'd read it and I said I'd glanced through it. He showed me the cover photo and his story on pages 24 and 25 of his older brother's old garden tractor collection. I'm glad I did what I did today. My only regret is complaining on my post this morning. Naturally, it is distasteful to stick my foot in my mouth, when Roger, Anson and Tom have their PHD problem, contaminating my soil, where my foot (the one in my mouth) got so distasteful.

Since I don't have an actual IH Tractor on a Montana Farm, you'll have to use your imagination again. This is an American Thresherman magazine photo of J. M. Meisser's 20hp Reeves cross compound, about a mile from Eddies Corner, which wasn't even thought of at the time of this photo. I knew Mr. Meisser's son Marvin or "Fritz" when I lived over there. My late steam friend, Max Tyler told me about Meisser's Reeves engines many times, as they later upgraded to a 25hp cc Reeves. Now this is one of those Reeves & Co. was bought by Emerson-Brantingham in 1912. E-B Reeves was out of business by 1925 when their factory burned that year at Columbus, Indiana. In 1928, J.I. Case bought some of E-B's haying and cultivation equipment, so they wouldn't have to "reinvent the wheel." So when Tenneco bought Case and IH, this tractor became an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm! Gary

[Delta Dirt]

Ran across this picture looking for something else-------------better post it while I know where it is. Tractor logos-----------includes IH and others; just to prove that we are not discrimatory.

Think I scanned this off of the front of Peterson's value guide book (can't call the exact name--------but seem like he advertises as "Machinery Pete".

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[Old Binder Guy]

I got some photos at Jacob's school for today's "Annual Ag Day" and if you used your imagination, you could imagine this McCormick-Deering tractor being on a Montana farm? By the way, I know that white lawn chair is at least 68 years old, as I have a photo of myself as a baby and Grandma in the chair... somewhere.

Mike stopped by in uniform, on his way to a hardware store.

And Guys... I don't mind finding this on the floor of the restroom when I get back in a dozen days, or so, after Monday. Or you guys can keep it going! Gary

[Loadstar]

Ran across this picture looking for something else-------------better post it while I know where it is. Tractor logos-----------includes IH and others; just to prove that we are not discrimatory.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

Anson, nice display of tractor logos but they left out one of my old favourites. (Cockshutt)

Gary, sure with they had days like that one when I was a kid in school. The only machinery or vehicle I can recall seeing at school was a red river cart. Makes me sound old.

[Old Binder Guy]

Ran across this picture looking for something else-------------better post it while I know where it is. Tractor logos-----------includes IH and others; just to prove that we are not discrimatory.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

Anson, nice display of tractor logos but they left out one of my old favourites. (Cockshutt)

Gary, sure with they had days like that one when I was a kid in school. The only machinery or vehicle I can recall seeing at school was a red river cart. Makes me sound old.

Ralph,

We never had an ag day either. That RedRiver Cart does make you sound old. Now there are four Model Ts in this photo and most of them ended up at our one room school from time to time, so that makes me sound young? Plus several of our students rode horses to school, as the 4-H kids did at Jake's school. Gary

[Loadstar]

. Now there are four Model Ts in this photo and most of them ended up at our one room school from time to time, so that makes me sound young? Plus several of our students rode horses to school, as the 4-H kids did at Jake's school. Gary ]

I missed the horse era Gary. Not sorry either. But I have heard plenty of stories of riding horse or cart (or democrat?) to school from earlier times.

Now here is an interesting scene from what must be main street in Midale, Sask. Supposed to be about 1915. I think there are more than a couple of Model Ts in this shot.

[Delta Dirt]

Looks like a prosperous little town Loadstar------------and a day with no snow.

Here is a photo of downtown Aberdeen, Mississippi most likely within the same time frame as your picture above.

We will need for the "Professor" and the "University" to identify the make and year model for all of these automobiles. Uhhh; ---------maybe Roger can even tell us the names of the mules in the bottom of the photo!!!!! (my guess would be Claude and Maude for one pair)

Lot of activity here------------including a Coco-Cola sign. Downtown Aberdeen looks much the same today---------many of those buildings are still standing. Aberdeen is on the eastern side of the state------along the Tenn---Tombigbee Waterway. I snapped a photo of a photo hanging in the courthouse for this picture.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[Roger Byrne]

Well let's see now. . . in what I can see in Ralph's photo there are 20 Model Ts that I can identify and 5 non-Fords. The rest of the cars are too small to tell the make, but a 4 to one ratio of Model Ts to all other makers during that period is about right. As far as the date, most of the newer looking Ts have the later body style and there are few brass Ts in the photo so I'd say it's about a 1920 photo.

Now in Anson's photo, I can idenify 10 Model Ts and 4 non-Fords. All the T's are brass and one is a 1915 model so that's when I'd date the photo. Maybe this was a wealthier area of the community and the T to non-T ratio is a little closer and also the fact that Model T production really didn't get rolling big time until the late teens makes this ratio seem logical.

Now as far as the mules, they look like a team my Grandfather used to have and their names were Nigg and May but I don't now how they got all the way down there in Mississippi?