IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[PALOUSE]

My nephew, Randy, will be pleased to see himself here tomorrow morning at work. I sent him the link to see the Reeves seats Mike is building in the last post, as Randy is a partner in that 20hp Reeves engine Mike is building them for.

I took this picure at our place about a dozen years ago, or so, at a family reunion when we lived near Whitefish, Montana. Randy is on our 1939 Farmall H, "Annie" and it is hitched to the Case / Reeves Water Wagon. Annie was the 181st Farmall H built in 1939. I can't remember when she "wasn't there" as it was "there" long before I was! This can be my IH Tractor on a Montana Farm for this week! Randy is wearing his Montana Highway Patrol "off duty" cap. He eventually became Chief of the Montana Highway Patrol and was its "Bear in the Air" for 20 years. I apologize if he caught any of your readers, while you were passing through our state, where every mile is two miles long.

Gary

I hope your nephew isn't one of those tractor drivers who never looks back. The tongue of the wagon is on the ground.

Greg,

He's a heck of a bunch sharper than his old uncle... I'm the one who made the misstatement here. The tractor was just backed up to the water wagon... My apologies. I think Randy had quite a few hours on this tractor as a younger man (older boy?). I just assumed the tractor was hooked up to the water wagon, as we did have the steam engine fired up at this time. Maybe I just took the picture as he was backing to hook up? I can't remember what I had for supper.

Gary

Gary, Just wanted you to know I'm paying attention....

[Old Binder Guy]

My nephew, Randy, will be pleased to see himself here tomorrow morning at work. I sent him the link to see the Reeves seats Mike is building in the last post, as Randy is a partner in that 20hp Reeves engine Mike is building them for.

I took this picure at our place about a dozen years ago, or so, at a family reunion when we lived near Whitefish, Montana. Randy is on our 1939 Farmall H, "Annie" and it is hitched to the Case / Reeves Water Wagon. Annie was the 181st Farmall H built in 1939. I can't remember when she "wasn't there" as it was "there" long before I was! This can be my IH Tractor on a Montana Farm for this week! Randy is wearing his Montana Highway Patrol "off duty" cap. He eventually became Chief of the Montana Highway Patrol and was its "Bear in the Air" for 20 years. I apologize if he caught any of your readers, while you were passing through our state, where every mile is two miles long.

Gary

I hope your nephew isn't one of those tractor drivers who never looks back. The tongue of the wagon is on the ground.

Greg,

He's a heck of a bunch sharper than his old uncle... I'm the one who made the misstatement here. The tractor was just backed up to the water wagon... My apologies. I think Randy had quite a few hours on this tractor as a younger man (older boy?). I just assumed the tractor was hooked up to the water wagon, as we did have the steam engine fired up at this time. Maybe I just took the picture as he was backing to hook up? I can't remember what I had for supper.

Gary

Gary, Just wanted you to know I'm paying attention....

Greg.... "No grass growing under you!"

[Old Binder Guy]

I'm looking for pictures IH Dealer decals which I collect mostly from Cub Cadets and I don't have hardly any from the western states. I was hoping that this site might have some that I could add to my Collection. I store them here at Dealer Decals.

I mostly have this type of decal but I collect this type

but I do collect older ones

I am more interested in the IH dealer than the decal

On that page link above and you can look at the decals clicking on DEALER DECAL ###-### or look at them on my 3 Google Maps. Here is a link to Map #1. You must go to each map from the top link(Dealer Decal) to see all 3 maps.

Between my computer crashing and losing 2 sites where I keep the decals for the map it's been hard. Thanks for any pictures or decals about IH Dealerships

wdeturck,

Do you collect the actual decals or images of those decals? I have several of the Bourke Motor & Implement Co. where I once worked and bought much equipment over the years, but they're all attached; to my toolbox lid, Farmall F-12, Farmall H or Cub Cadet snow blower. If you're using images, I could attempt to get a photo.

Gary

PS: Or, there's always Roger who can reproduce anything!

[Loadstar]

Ralph,

Those John Deere priming cups are the same principal as these. The JD cups have a lid incorporated into the valve handle that covers them to keep dirt out. I had one that I sold on eBay several years ago. They were also just a compression release on those Dear Johns, for cranking or rolling over purposes, as it made it a little easier to roll.

Gary

I thought I might have a few of those old primer cups here too but all I found was this little brass valve. I have no idea what it is from but it appears to be an inline shutoff valve possibly for fuel. The remains of a flare nut fitting on one side and some mangled threads on the other side indicate it has seen a fair bit of use in it's day.

[The Dukester]

I "aced" it,......but then being 77 years old and a sort of "car freak" all my life, it figures. Like OBG I've had a lot of those models...and wanted or knew people who had most of the others. Cars of that era may have been more than a little "excessive" but they sure were colorful. That helps me remember them. The new models generally look pretty drab to me in comparison....and I just don't care much for most of them.....you set too low and the beltline is too high. I "fall" into most of them and have to "climb" to get out.

[Delta Dirt]

Way to call the Professor's cards Palouse!!!

The wagon being unhitched did remind me of one of my neighbors checking on one of his "Ace's" cutting cotton stalks. He could see this smoke from along ways away-------figured he might should ride down and see what was happening. Seems like "the Ace" had the thottle cocked on an old 1030 Case pulling a tow style 6 row shredder----------before Dennis could get there and stop him; "Ace" had made a couple of complete rounds with flames boiling over the stalk shredder. Dennis got him stopped going into the wind and managed to unhook the cutter and drive the tractor away. "Ace" wasn't concerned with what was going on behind him---------just lookin to the future in front of him.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[wdeturck]

wdeturck,

Do you collect the actual decals or images of those decals? I have several of the Bourke Motor & Implement Co. where I once worked and bought much equipment over the years, but they're all attached; to my toolbox lid, Farmall F-12, Farmall H or Cub Cadet snow blower. If you're using images, I could attempt to get a photo.

Gary

PS: Or, there's always Roger who can reproduce anything!

From the picture of that model I was able to make a sized decal

that is hard to read but if I have enough information I will save it to my collection

I save the decals by city and state and who sent them. To save that one I would need the dealers address.

If you have larger pictures I can make them work so if you have other information that will help when I post them.

[Old Binder Guy]

wdeturck,

Do you collect the actual decals or images of those decals? I have several of the Bourke Motor & Implement Co. where I once worked and bought much equipment over the years, but they're all attached; to my toolbox lid, Farmall F-12, Farmall H or Cub Cadet snow blower. If you're using images, I could attempt to get a photo.

Gary

PS: Or, there's always Roger who can reproduce anything!

From the picture of that model I was able to make a sized decal

that is hard to read but if I have enough information I will save it to my collection

I save the decals by city and state and who sent them. To save that one I would need the dealers address.

If you have larger pictures I can make them work so if you have other information that will help when I post them.

wdeturck,

As near as I could tell, you merely used the "thumbnail" of that picture. If you click on the picture, it will go full page and you will discover what all is on that "Model T Roadster Pickup" that Roger sent my grandkids. I can almost read the numbers on the Model T Keys on the board at the right and bottom of the picture. However, as neat as this unit is, it is a made-up IHC dealership, not one that actually existed. It lives on at Silver Creek however.

I did include a matchbook, which may lead you to going that route as well? Gary

PS: I attached another photo of an 18hp Advance Rumely Universal steam engine fired up at night and photographed with infrared technology. It sure shows you where it is safe to touch with bare hands and where it isn't.

[Loadstar]

Do you collect the actual decals or images of those decals? I have several of the Bourke Motor & Implement Co. where I once worked and bought much equipment over the years, but they're all attached; to my toolbox lid, Farmall F-12, Farmall H or Cub Cadet snow blower. If you're using images, I could attempt to get a photo.

Gary

PS: Or, there's always Roger who can reproduce anything!

PS: I attached another photo of an 18hp Advance Rumely Universal steam engine fired up at night and photographed with infrared technology. It sure shows you where it is safe to touch with bare hands and where it isn't.

That Rumely does look to be running a little hot Gary.. Now I know what I forgot, to take a picture of the IH dealer sticker on one of my farm implements. Maybe tomorrow. Today I was busy getting this old truck out of the dusty back corners of the big shed. The 59-60 IHC B110 has been on this farm since 1973. It had sat in the shed for the last 9 years.

[Old Binder Guy]

This was Annie, our 1939 Farmall H, on a trailer headed for Whitefish, Montana from Moore, Montana. AND this will make an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm as well! Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

I'd been posting tool photos a while back. Last Monday, I took several buckets and sorted like tools to place them on the shelves where things were just thrown and piled. Now if I want to find something, it's pretty well narrowed down, at least with the mechanical tools.

Now the carpentry tools... that's another story. I have them thrown into this chest and carpenter's box on the hitch of the threshing machine. I don't know if I have the wherewithall to tackle this mess or not?

I've started doing bodywork on Mike & Randy's Reeves gear shields, and will likely spend much of today on them. Mike told me he'd been hoping and waiting for me to start on straightening them, as he didn't want to do that job. It's thereputic to me, just as building those wanescoting tool boxes are to him, I guess. I'd rather have a sharp stick in my eye than do that kind of wood working. Actually, I guess it is great that we both have our areas of expertise and medias to work with? Me metal and him wood. I'd better get ready and get gone. We're supposed to get a nasty storm later today. The Lt. Col. and some troops are on their way to Missoula to inspect a MTARNG CSMS shop there, and crossing the continental divide is necessary to do that.

[Delta Dirt]

That infrared shot is impressive---------wonder what one of our diesel tractors would look like under infrared for comparison purposes. Lots of heat off of transmission/rear ends, etc.

That would make a good Christmas card photo Professor.

I am sure nuff lost now----------got new cell phones yesterday. Its all a new process for an old brain now---------just call me a "high tech red-neck". Probably gonna like it once I figure out how to turn it on!!!!

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[M Diesel]

Not hot enough to be in the same range as a boiler. By the time you lower the gain enough to see any detail on the engine it reduces people to background noise.

[Loadstar]

Not hot enough to be in the same range as a boiler. By the time you lower the gain enough to see any detail on the engine it reduces people to background noise.

Or he is just too "cool" for the infra red to pick up.

I was going through some of the stuff in my "museum" today and was surprised to find this old Carter updraft carburetor with what appears to be a copper float bowl. I have no idea what it is from though.

[Loadstar]

I was even more suprpised to find a second Carter identical to the first. It appears to be a model RAKX-O if I am reading right.

And then theres this Carter downdraft. Another mystery?

[Old Binder Guy]

Art From Deleon,

You reminded me of a story son Mike told about 20 years ago when he was a 1st Lieutenant and had a tank platoon at Missoula, Montana's National Guard unit. They were on bivouac and out on night maneuvers. The infrared sighting was on and they were watching another tank a long ways away. Maybe a half to a mile away. Mike follwed what was happening in the tank commander's sighting apparatus. The tank was still warm around the engine compartment. After they'd set for a while, "heat" appeared atop the turret, jumped to the ground, came toward Mike's tank a few feet then stopped. Then, there became an area on the ground in front of that soldier that was "emanating heat." The man turned around, climbed back onto the M-1 Tank and down into the hatch. I guess I don't need to explain to anyone, the "heat" on the ground, in front of the soldier?

This is for wdeturck, if it is any good to him. I took a picture of the Bourke Motor sticker inside my old tool box.

I bought this old Hi Power drill today, as old tools fascinate me. The body is cylindrical, the plug is two wire, the trigger is unique, but the most fascinating thing is the "keyless" chuck. $3.50 seemed reasonable to me, with the box and bits.

This is a picture a friend from Moore(Eddies Corner), Montana, taken of me at the throttle, and Earl Tyler at the power steering lever of their 32hp cross compound US Reeves we had fired up to plow with in 1991.

Besides the 32hp Reeves we had fired up that day, they also have this 32hp cross compound Canadian Special Reeves in their shed. Gary

[wdeturck]

wdeturck,

Do you collect the actual decals or images of those decals? I have several of the Bourke Motor & Implement Co. where I once worked and bought much equipment over the years, but they're all attached; to my toolbox lid, Farmall F-12, Farmall H or Cub Cadet snow blower. If you're using images, I could attempt to get a photo.

Gary

From the picture of that model I was able to make a sized decal

that is hard to read but if I have enough information I will save it to my collection

I save the decals by city and state and who sent them. To save that one I would need the dealers address.

If you have larger pictures I can make them work so if you have other information that will help when I post them.

wdeturck,

As near as I could tell, you merely used the "thumbnail" of that picture. If you click on the picture, it will go full page and you will discover what all is on that "Model T Roadster Pickup" that Roger sent my grandkids. I can almost read the numbers on the Model T Keys on the board at the right and bottom of the picture. However, as neat as this unit is, it is a made-up IHC dealership, not one that actually existed. It lives on at Silver Creek however.

I did include a matchbook, which may lead you to going that route as well? Gary

That matchbook is now 2 sized decals 495a. and 495b. When I put it on Google map 3 it might only be the 495a.

[Old Binder Guy]

wdeturck,

I worked for Pat and Johnny at Bourke Motor & Implement Co. when they were between 4th & 5th Avenues south, on Janeaux Street in 1964; then I worked for Johnny Bourke at Bourke Motor & Implement when they were on First Avenue South, but I don't remember the street address of either place, even though I can point to the spots where they were.

I also took this picture of the F-12's decal Johnny had placed on the air cleaner. My tool box had that rib that ran through it, and this one was on the curve. Not a good situation for you. I know Adobe can remove that, but I've never played with that feature. And I had to get an angle on them so they didn't reflect light from the flash too badly. I wish I still had one of those decals unused, as I'd have sure sent it to you. I also worked for Woods Brothers Implement in Hobson, Montana for a winter. I never ended up with one of those that I still have. They were on a truck and a tractor I used to have on a Montana Farm! Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

After my last post, I went to check my Facebook page and my grandson Maverik (home from Iraq since October) had placed this on there. He said he ran into it out coyote hunting (near Spokane) and didn't think it looked like a threshing machine to him. Actually, it is quite unusual with the cylinder and beater turned a quarter turn from other combines. While I can see this makes sense when viewing from the header end, it is natural to have the flow straight into the cylinder. But after going through the cylinder and concaves, I would think turning that corner might not be a pretty sight, likely why this principle wasn't continued in all combines?

Do any of you know what it is? I mulled over Avery and Gleaner but I sure don't know. I thought maybe some of you combine afficinados might like seeing this. Gary

[CardaleBob]

Hi: I am in a picky mood this morning. I think the float bowl on that carb is made of brass. l do admire the nice pictures. CardaleBob.

[Old Binder Guy]

After my last post, I went to check my Facebook page and my grandson Maverik (home from Iraq since October) had placed this on there. He said he ran into it out coyote hunting (near Spokane) and didn't think it looked like a threshing machine to him. Actually, it is quite unusual with the cylinder and beater turned a quarter turn from other combines. While I can see this makes sense when viewing from the header end, it is natural to have the flow straight into the cylinder. But after going through the cylinder and concaves, I would think turning that corner might not be a pretty sight, likely why this principle wasn't continued in all combines?

Do any of you know what it is? I mulled over Avery and Gleaner but I sure don't know. I thought maybe some of you combine afficinados might like seeing this. Gary

No different than a modern rotary, all they have done is center the head in front of the cylinder (rotor). (Except for Gleaner, which has a traverse rotor)

As far as the make, I would also like to know.

But Art, I was thinking after it comes out of the cylinder (rotor), everything then needs to turn a 90% corner to hit the seives and straw walkers. Seems like it's all turning a corner it doesn't need to to me? Just to get a straight in shot from the header aprons. Gary

[PALOUSE]

After my last post, I went to check my Facebook page and my grandson Maverik (home from Iraq since October) had placed this on there. He said he ran into it out coyote hunting (near Spokane) and didn't think it looked like a threshing machine to him. Actually, it is quite unusual with the cylinder and beater turned a quarter turn from other combines. While I can see this makes sense when viewing from the header end, it is natural to have the flow straight into the cylinder. But after going through the cylinder and concaves, I would think turning that corner might not be a pretty sight, likely why this principle wasn't continued in all combines?

Do any of you know what it is? I mulled over Avery and Gleaner but I sure don't know. I thought maybe some of you combine afficinados might like seeing this. Gary

Gary,

What makes you think that it is a rotary combine? Sure looks like a conventional transverse cylinder machine to me. That big round hood is just the feeder house on what might be an old Rumely. (I've only seen a couple old Rumelys and I can't find my pictures right now). All of the drives that I can see indicate a regular cross ways cylinder, probably a spike tooth. McCormick pull combines had rectangular shaped feeder houses but there was a curved deflector inside to direct the incoming material downward smoothly for better feeding into the feeder conveyor chain. That was the only change of direction of flow for a side header machine. It worked out well because it laid the stalks down so they would feed head first into the cylinder. Then there was a feeder beater above the chain and directly ahead of the cylinder. Looks to me that this machine simply shaped the whole feeder house that way. Be all right until the tin wears through. The McCormick deflectors were of fairly heavy guage metal.

[Old Binder Guy]

After my last post, I went to check my Facebook page and my grandson Maverik (home from Iraq since October) had placed this on there. He said he ran into it out coyote hunting (near Spokane) and didn't think it looked like a threshing machine to him. Actually, it is quite unusual with the cylinder and beater turned a quarter turn from other combines. While I can see this makes sense when viewing from the header end, it is natural to have the flow straight into the cylinder. But after going through the cylinder and concaves, I would think turning that corner might not be a pretty sight, likely why this principle wasn't continued in all combines?

Do any of you know what it is? I mulled over Avery and Gleaner but I sure don't know. I thought maybe some of you combine afficinados might like seeing this. Gary

No different than a modern rotary, all they have done is center the head in front of the cylinder (rotor). (Except for Gleaner, which has a traverse rotor)

As far as the make, I would also like to know.

But Art, I was thinking after it comes out of the cylinder (rotor), everything then needs to turn a 90% corner to hit the seives and straw walkers. Seems like it's all turning a corner it doesn't need to to me? Just to get a straight in shot from the header aprons. Gary

Greg, I wasn't actually calling this combine a "rotor", I was just referring to it as Art had to me. I grew up on Advance-Rumely combines and I don't think this had anything to do with them. The elevators and hopper are similar, as is the power plant, but that's about it. The wheels, etc. are much different. My grandson took this picture nearly 300 miles from me, so I don't have a header shot of it. We may never know what it actually is. I'll tell Maverik he started something I can't finish....Gary

[Loadstar]

I can't add anything to identify the unusual pull type combine either. Before we get too far off the subject of dealer's decal/stickers, here is the only one I could find on the farm. Jenkins was an old IH dealer from way back in Strasbourg, Sask. I guess when Tenneco/Case bought up IH they had to add Case to all the paperwork etc.

[farmerboy3]

thats cool i got one just like that from truscott international in kindersley sask