IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[Old Binder Guy]

Anson,

The Regular had an open steering gear up front. I'm maybe sticking my neck out to get it chopped off, but I think that went until the end of the Regular production. That's always been my "measuring stick" anyway. We had both on the farm when I was a little boy, and they were used for haying. Gary

Gary, what about the "duck-bill" steering box..........where does it fall in with all of this.....if you don"t know maybe someone else?

Chub,

I have the book by Oscar H. Will III and Todd Markle entitled Collector's Originality Guide - Farmall Regular and F-Series. According to them, they only mentioned the open steering on the Regular and introduced the "duckbill" that the new Farmall F-30 came out with. It says, "In July 1931, the New Work Coommittee recommended improbements to the Regular, including incorparation of the enclosed duckbill steering gear." They began building the F-30 in July 1931 and the F-20 finally became available in January 1, 1934, with experimental F-20s built between the commencement of the F-30 production and the F-20 in 1934. And as long as I'm on a roll, the F-12 got started in October 1932, but didn't really get going until1933. This is a great book and I get no commission from its sale!

Gary

[chub]

Thanks Gary, chub.

[magicmikey]

I don`t have any T`s but enjoy the views. Have nearly completed a sister to the F-12 tho, a `37 industrial version.

mike

[Delta Dirt]

Re: Regulars with open steering

This tractor is a Regular----------its got the three speed transmission (and I have another Regular with the enclosed steering). My dad wasn't concerned about originality----------apparently he changed the open gear steering bolster out on all of his old Regulars. (amongst other modifications-----air cleaners------hydraulic lifts, propane conversions, etc.)

It was my opinion that some of the very last of the Regular production may have come with the enclosed steering----------but all Regulars had the three forward speed transmissions----with the F-20s having 4 speeds forward??? Were there any other differences in the Regular and F-20s???

Thanks for the referencing Professor-------maybe I can get lucky and pick up a copy of the book.

Here's an encore shot of two original Regulars (circa 1925)-------that's my dad on the left and Uncle Gordon on the right. We still have the tractor pictured on the left----but I believe it may be a conglomeration of several Regulars now (including an enclosed steering box). This photo was made by the Harvester Company for national advertising purposes when my dad was the local dealer (and also farming with them).

For any Cornhuskers fans here----Uncle Gordon played center for Nebraska right after WWI (tough as nails).

I further decorated this photo up with the Farmall insert and my logo for our local old tractor show last fall.

Glad to see the Magic Man here-----nice looking project you got there Magic.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

[Old Binder Guy]

Anson,

I really don't know for POSITIVE about the Regular steering gear. Only what I read. That is a good book and I'd recommend it to anyone wanting to know when they switched "from the lead sediment bowl gasket to the cork sediment bowl gasket."

Roger, those were good pictures of "Lizzy" and she too looks good from ANY angle, just like Liz did.

Magic Mikey, that is a great looking little Industrial. Now was that a W-12 Industrial? Was it originally gray or does it have a later top tank on the radiator? If you ever need a place to park it, I could sure help you out with that one! And I live in town... Gary

Headin' to Silver Creek shortly.

[Old Binder Guy]

And Anson, I like seeing your photo everytime you post it. Now that's REAL IH history!

[magicmikey]

Comments are appreciated, went from a project to a saga. It appears to be all original, even the cutoff fenders. Not sure but the W-12 comes with a McD badge on the radiator? Underneath it`s red exterior was a blue close to what shows, the grey is camera/dust ---- I need to hurry up a mite.

Gary, with the price of fuel delivery could be expensive.

mike

[Old Binder Guy]

Comments are appreciated, went from a project to a saga. It appears to be all original, even the cutoff fenders. Not sure but the W-12 comes with a McD badge on the radiator? Underneath it`s red exterior was a blue close to what shows, the grey is camera/dust ---- I need to hurry up a mite.

Gary, with the price of fuel delivery could be expensive.

mike

Magic Mikey, I'm not trying to pick your fantastic tractor apart to get you to lower the price to the point you'd want to deliver it as a part of the sale. I forget whose photo this with the McCormick-Deering WD-18 and the W-14 of 1938 and still has the McD badge. Gary

[magicmikey]

Gary, I think M_Bcat posted that foto.

I assumed the road trip costs would be borne by the owner of the town abode, and as a plus I don`t eat much.

This is a McD foto found on the net, with correct fenders.

mike

[Loadstar]

Gary, I think M_Bcat posted that foto.

I assumed the road trip costs would be borne by the owner of the town abode, and as a plus I don`t eat much.

This is a McD foto found on the net, with correct fenders.

mike

What a neat little tractor. At least it looks small in the photos. Anybody looking for a project W9? I see a rusty relic here on kijiji.

[MB. Cat]

Gooday Ralph

That 9 looks like a SWD9 , sure would like the grill and hood. Is it in a sale near you, may have to comeup for a visit if it is.

John

[Old Binder Guy]

Gary, I think M_Bcat posted that foto.

I assumed the road trip costs would be borne by the owner of the town abode, and as a plus I don`t eat much.

This is a McD foto found on the net, with correct fenders.

mike

magicmikey,

I was quite sure it was MB Cat's photo, but I didn't want to step on someone else's toes. It seems at times like I really have to find "reverse gear" for some of my snap decisions.

As long as you don't eat much... I'll share the cardboard box I live in, here at Helena Walmart.

That W-14 appears to be an International. I can see the rivets or screws where the International plate was and they've put a McCormick-Deering decal in the flat spot between the rivets.

Gary

[Loadstar]

Gooday Ralph

That 9 looks like a SWD9 , sure would like the grill and hood. Is it in a sale near you, may have to comeup for a visit if it is.

John

John, I wasn't sure if Super or just plain 9. This is a private seller on kijiji who appears to have quite a collection of old tractors and machinery. Here is the ad I was looking at. http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-heavy-equipment-farming-equipment-Old-Tractors-For-Sale-W0QQAdIdZ272952363

Looks like a real open air museum.

[magicmikey]

Good eye there Gary, haven`t researched what is available for decals yet. I am familiar with Wally`s boxes, call it a "gated community" hearabouts.

They are tiny Ralph, put a yardstick across the fenders and the flip up seat enables you to climb aboard.

mike

[Loadstar]

Good eye there Gary, haven`t researched what is available for decals yet. I am familiar with Wally`s boxes, call it a "gated community" hearabouts.

They are tiny Ralph, put a yardstick across the fenders and the flip up seat enables you to climb aboard.

mike

Almost a mini tractor. Makes them more valuable as a collector I would think.

Not to get too far off topic or hijack the thread but I had to post this youtube link as I know there are some music lovers on here (Gary). . That rythmic drum beat in the background you hear is not a drum but actually an old engine. Not sure if it is the tractor or the old one lungers but sure sounds good.

[farmerboy3]

Gary, I think M_Bcat posted that foto.

I assumed the road trip costs would be borne by the owner of the town abode, and as a plus I don`t eat much.

This is a McD foto found on the net, with correct fenders.

mike

What a neat little tractor. At least it looks small in the photos. Anybody looking for a project W9? I see a rusty relic here on kijiji.

i saw that thing i thought it was WD-9 to i'd get it if the head is good but if it's sitting there theirs obviously somthing wrong with it

[Old Binder Guy]

Good eye there Gary, haven`t researched what is available for decals yet. I am familiar with Wally`s boxes, call it a "gated community" hearabouts.

They are tiny Ralph, put a yardstick across the fenders and the flip up seat enables you to climb aboard.

mike

Almost a mini tractor. Makes them more valuable as a collector I would think.

Not to get too far off topic or hijack the thread but I had to post this youtube link as I know there are some music lovers on here (Gary). . That rythmic drum beat in the background you hear is not a drum but actually an old engine. Not sure if it is the tractor or the old one lungers but sure sounds good.

Ralph,

That is really neat. I'd heard the Sweet Georgia Brown you tube several times, but this is new to me. That older gentleman playing lead (in the middle) sure has a unique style. He did some one string picking in the middle area, but the beginning and ending, he did "chord melody" which means he plays about a thousand different chords in that song. It was the method Eddie Peabody played the tenor banjo, but probably not many of you remember that... I can still hear Eddie playing "All the World is Waiting for the Sun to Rise." I think it is available on the internet somewhere.

Anson I took a picture of an IHC moldboard plow beam part number with its PO prefix.

Then I took a picture (again) of Sharon's grandpa Simpson's old 3-disk P&O plow.

Then I took a picture of one of my two Parlin & Orendoerff seats showing the correct spelling. Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Nothing much to report today. I'm posting a photo of Mike's IHC rake and IHC cultivator for your inspection. Gary

EDIT: I forgot to mention... the old tires on the rake had rotted beyond description and it was missing four teeth. I found a bunch of teeth at Kalispell's Pacific Iron and Steel, someone had hauled in for scrap and they were correct for the IHC rake. I have some old Model T 30X3-1/2" tires I could have used for this application, but they'd work for a Model T in a pinch... and I've always wanted to build a Model T trailer with some wheels and axle I have, for hauling firewood behind a tractor, for the steam engine, if we ever thresh at Silver Creek before I check out. Anyway, I mentioned motorcycle tires to Mike and he promptly brought me these. I pulled off both wheels, threw away the old tires and installed these. Before installing them, I drilled holes all the way around so they'd drain their water out. Other than being a little too small in diameter, they look pretty good, I think. I don't think the average joe would notice anyway.

[Old Binder Guy]

I also took some photos of the McCormick mowing machine Carl Mehmke gave us. I remember Mike and I went to Lewistown to pick up a steel wheel F-14 and planned to stop at Carl's to get the rest of an old wooden wheel wagon Carl gave Mike. We had one wheel from it as decoration. Carl insisted we get the rest of it. On our way after loading that onto my trailer, we pulled up to let Carl out of the pickup. He said, "You don't need a mower too?" He had three of them he was hauling to Pacific Iron and Steel for scrap the next day. We grabbed this McCormick and loaded it onto the back of my trailer as well. It's hard to grasp that Carl had SOOOOOOOOOOO much old stuff he and his father had gathered (and others brought by and dumped off) that he would clean up his acres of old iron by hauling the REAL junk to the scrapper. In my eyes, this is NOT scrap iron, however! Gary

PS: By the way we have about five inches of new, heavy springtime snow as of this morning. I may have to have Ralph come down and plow us out?

PPS: Edit... This summer, if I get time, I plan to build a new pittman wood and a tongue for this mower. I'm just going to use a treated 4"X4" I have for a tongue. I won't ever use this thing. It's just supposed to set there and look pretty, like IHC equipment was intended to do.

[Old Binder Guy]

Just to leave living proof behind that I'm not partial to IHC and allow John Deere equipment onto the place, Cousin Dan Tombrink gave Mike this Van Brunt grain drill for seeding those oats I hope to harvest with the steam engine before I check out. It's a pretty decent little drill too. We'd used it at Columbia Falls to seed crops for the Northwest Antique Power Association shows I used to haul my steam engine to there, back as far as 1994. Gary

PS: I call this a "Van Brunt" grain drill, just like John Deere did. That way, I don't have to say those words, "John Deere" out loud!

[Loadstar]

I also took some photos of the McCormick mowing machine Carl Mehmke gave us.

PS: By the way we have about five inches of new, heavy springtime snow as of this morning. I may have to have Ralph come down and plow us out?

.

Gary, too bad about the snow. I just took my snowblower off the tractor yesterday and really don't want to have to put it back on til next winter.

You didn't mention the reason for the Model T tires on the hay rake? I'm guessing most old farmers know but for those that don't, the theory was that thley stopped hay from wrapping around and getting caught in the spokes of the big steel rake wheels.

Nice Van Brunt drill. I have a newer version on rubber here but I know there were lots of the old steel wheelers sold here too. My grandfather used to have ah IH (McCormick?) drill with a wooden seed box. I can recall seeing it patched up with metal after the wood rotted in places. That drill has somehow gone missing and I have no idea where it is hiding on the farm.

[Old Binder Guy]

Well... Our government didn't shut down tonight. They became agreeable at the deadline! Now Mike and Maverik and the rest of our vets can get paid, even though congress was going to pay themselves.

Now, maybe we can trade all of the junk in I posted today and get some newer stuff?? Gary

[MnRed]

I must be just a little slow in the head. Any company anywhere, including China, has to know where the money is comming from in order th keep the Company operating. The first order of business of Congress shoul be addressing the budget. After that is resolved, all of the items brought before Congress could be resolved with quick dispatch. It is about time we quit electing lawyers to public office. RAY

[Delta Dirt]

New red paint working on Mississippi farm-----(some of this dirt washed down from Montana in years gone by):

The farm tenant has been doing some landforming----------got lucky to squeeze it in during the spring. Here's a shot of one of the big red tractors getting started cutting the tail ditch on a 40 ac field----------and his "lister plow" throwing up a row last Saturday when that field was finished. They finished up another 25 ac field this week--------working to row it up right now.

This is a 450 HP tractor pulling two 17 cu yd Crabtree buckets in a train----custom operaton.

This is the tenant's 275 HP tractor-------8 row bedder. He will scuff off top of row and plant twin rows of soybeans on top of bed. Got a 1" rain-------still needs some more rain to completely settle these beds down. We've got corn and a good bit of soybeans up down this way now--------temps in high 70's-----low 80's today.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723

edit: removed extra photo of same picture

[Delta Dirt]

My old rusty dump rake isn't equipped with the model T rubber tires---------so,----what is the purpose of the tires??? (does seem like I can "re-recollect" seeing tires mounted like this in years gone by??)

Got a couple of the old mule mowing machines also-------believe they are model #6 or #7 (??). Have found old wrenches in the tool boxes of these old mowers before-----good idea to check them out when you run across one.

Delta Dirt

Avon, Ms 38723