SDF and AGCO group

[U-C]

The Same Deutz-Fahr group (SDF) also once known as S-L-H Same Lamborghini Hurlimann group and Agco have made a deal 

that Same will build tractors for the MF tractor brand, the last time SAME build tractors was when the Agco tractors where still around

[Gearclash]

I see AGCO is still off their ADD meds.  

[brewcrew]

Last year I hauled a 340 hp deutz from Minnesota to Michigan. I have hauled everything from red to green to orange and yellow and more. That deutz was by far my least favorite cab- it leaned in so far at the top that I felt claustrophobic, and I doubt the buddy seat would have fit anyone but a child comfortably. But the cvt transmission in it was my favorite cvt among all brands. No lag, no unexpected movement, just a very intuitive foot pedal operation.

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The New MF might look similar to this tractor just with the new MF style hood

 

[jordi 1455]

On 2/12/2025 at 6:49 PM, U-C said:

The Same Deutz-Fahr group (SDF) also once known as S-L-H Same Lamborghini Hurlimann group and Agco have made a deal 

that Same will build tractors for the MF tractor brand, the last time SAME build tractors was when the Agco tractors where still around

The AGco tractors were Lamborghini's they had a watercooled engine while Same by the introduction of the AGCO GT-series stil had aircooled engines, also the side panels were Lamborghini.

During the Agco-Allis years the tractor were Same tractors with air cooled engines.

Also the Massey Ferguson 1325, 1335, 1345, 2405, 2410 and 2415 compact tractors were build by SDF 

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4 hours ago, jordi 1455 said:

The AGco tractors were Lamborghini's they had a watercooled engine while Same by the introduction of the AGCO GT-series stil had aircooled engines, also the side panels were Lamborghini.

During the Agco-Allis years the tractor were Same tractors with air cooled engines.

Also the Massey Ferguson 1325, 1335, 1345, 2405, 2410 and 2415 compact tractors were build by SDF 

The AGCO Allis tractors had air cooled engines and they where based on the Same tractor while the ones sold under Agco White where the Lamborghini tractors with water cooled engines (Lamborghini already was part of Same at that time) 

The Water cooled engine tech originally came from the Hurlimann tractors starting in the early 70s Hurlimann started to import Lamborghini tractors to Switzerland (first contact with the Same group) and sold them water cooled engines. Than after SAME took over Hurlimann in 1977 the Hurlimann team and the Same team started with the design with the newest Hurlimann tractors and engines which came on the market in 1979 

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The Bigger AGCO Allis tractors that had an air cooled diesel they had a Deutz engine in em and the rear end was from White

[jordi 1455]

18 hours ago, U-C said:

The Bigger AGCO Allis tractors that had an air cooled diesel they had a Deutz engine in em and the rear end was from White

Only the 9100-series and some models of the 9600-series. The production of models with Deutz engine's ended in 1995 and the production of the US build Deutz-Fahr Agrostar 8.31 ended in 1996. The production of the the Lamborghini Traction 265 and Same 265 both with Cummins engines ended in 1998 and were replaced by the German build Same Diamond and Lamborghini Victory series.

[brewcrew]

I just happened to see that it was one year ago today that I hauled the deutz. 

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7 hours ago, brewcrew said:

I just happened to see that it was one year ago today that I hauled the deutz. 

Made in Lauingen Germany in the new Tractor plant of SDF, in that same city Deutz Fahr used to manufacture Combines (the Former Kola plant)  

[M35A2]

So is AGCO going to still manufacture Massey tractors, or is SDF going to to and Agco do the marketing as MF?    What becomes of the SDF products marketed in North America?  

 

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15 hours ago, M35A2 said:

So is AGCO going to still manufacture Massey tractors, or is SDF going to to and Agco do the marketing as MF?    What becomes of the SDF products marketed in North America?  

 

what I have heard SDF will be supplying AGCO tractors in the the 85hp range