#10 Grain drill coulters falling off.

[oldtech]

9 hours ago, HydroTek said:

The original bearing used heavy oil (EP0 today)  in the bearing
-- the bearing plate is grooved to pump the oil up the sides of the bearing
-- pretty slick idea for back in the day
-- bearing was chilled cast iron -- pretty hard stuff

Later units used sealed bearings 
-- if you kept oil in the older bearing it would out last the ball bearing 

Both were riveted to the disk opener 
-- far as I remember they interchanged 
-- banged rivets in many of those years ago 

oh yeah LH and RH threads holding them on 

The old guy who owned it is the same one we bought this place from.  He was notorious for neglecting things.  Its obvious that the fittings are thick with conventional grease.  Given that there are conventional zerks on it its hard to figure out how you would pump oil into it  When I read that notice under the lid I thought it was talking about lubing the meters so that seed would not stick in them.  It says to lube daily so again it seems like they are talking about the meters.  Wondering if the owners manual is a bit less cryptic.

  The bearings tho shot do not lack for grease.  They are jammed up.so I think he was just running it with the coulters not turning and when he backed up they just unscrewed.  The ones that are still on appear to be working just fine.  

Also, is this really a model 10?  I found a lot of pictures of 10s that have the welded steel frame.  This is the old style angle iron frame and the seed boxes look more like the old steel wheel model Ms.

Found this video about the 10.  It does not look anything like mine.

 

[oldtech]

Here again this does not look like my drill.  I still has the ribbon type see tubes.

Im going to look at one similar to this being sold for parts to see if I can make one good one out of too bad ones...

 

 

[oldtech]

This is a lot closer to mine.  He calls it an MF I assume because it has the fertilizer box which is shot just like all of them.

 

[oldtech]

Just going over the numbers for parts against what working drills are going for as food plot planters it would pay to fix it up but Id have to replace the bearings on the existing coulters to make it work out.  thats a lot of monkey work and not timely for my need right now.  Will probably just hang onto it for future consideration.

[HydroTek]

GrandPa had a grease gun with thick oil from a 5 gallon metal bucket that we used on the grain drill .  Had to scoop the dark colored "oil" from the bucket to fill the grease gun with your hand . 

[oldtech]

3 minutes ago, HydroTek said:

GrandPa had a grease gun with thick oil from a 5 gallon metal bucket that we used on the grain drill .  Had to scoop the dark colored "oil" from the bucket to fill the grease gun with your hand . 

Im guessing that this is why they went to greaseless sealed bearings.

JUst remembering an old 300 New Idea picker my dad had.  It had a centralized greaser with plastic tubes.  It took oil not grease.  the pump itself looked just like a common grease gun.  You just pumped it a few times and you were done!

[Jeff-C-IL]

I find it really "interesting" that so many of the older complex machines (pickers, etc) had greasebanks - then the mfg's all went to "find your zerks" and the grease bank was an option if available....then they tried to make "greaseless" machines (tie rods/bearings)....now they have automated greasers for $$$$.

If they had just lept making the grease banks so it was simple and straightforward to add grease, most of the above would not have been an issue.

Of course, you can go overboard with things.  I remember looking at an old self propelled MF picker on an auction once - it had grease banks hanging ALL over....must have been 100 zerks at least.   Talking to the guy that ran it, he said it felt like you spent half the morning greasing the thing!

 

[oldtech]

Went looking for parts and look what followed me home!

Needs a little here and there little welding and 2 missing boots. But way less wrong with it than the other one. And best part is, it's only 250 bucks can't beat that with a stick!  Single opener. But I read that that's better for hard. Soil and boy, have we got hard. Soil, so I'm sure it'll meet my needs..