Brucer95 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 My 706 I just bought is set out wide. I'm going to narrow it in to run down 30" rows. What is the proper toe in toe out I need to set it at? It drives really well now I hate to screw that up. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redironh Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You shouldn't have to worry about that. Make sure when you slide your axel in, you move the tie rods the same number of holes. Count the number of exposed holes (groves) on the tie and axel and slide them in the same amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerFixEmUp Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You shouldn't have to worry about that. Make sure when you slide your axel in, you move the tie rods the same number of holes. Count the number of exposed holes (groves) on the tie and axel and slide them in the same amount. I'd do like he said and maybe check it when done. I usually try to get 0 to 1/8" toe in measured at spindle height on the tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchard6 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Could just run a tape across it before you adjust then try to achieve the same toe after you set your axles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redironh Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't believe there is any adjustment for toe in/out. You are over thinking it. If you look at the axel your tie rods should have the same number of grooves (holes) exposed as the number of exposed holes in axel tube. When you adjust them you simply move them in or out the same amount. If for some reason your tie rods are not set the same as axel tubes the steering will be either to much or not enough. If one side is off and not the other, depending on the tie rod being to short or long, steering will be to little or to much respectively on that side. When these are moved in sync with one another your toe in/out is not a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't believe there is any adjustment for toe in/out. You are over thinking it. If you look at the axel your tie rods should have the same number of grooves (holes) exposed as the number of exposed holes in axel tube. When you adjust them you simply move them in or out the same amount. If for some reason your tie rods are not set the same as axel tubes the steering will be either to much or not enough. If one side is off and not the other, depending on the tie rod being to short or long, steering will be to little or to much respectively on that side. When these are moved in sync with one another your toe in/out is not a factor. Yep, toe-in is adjustable.....inside end of the tie rods. 1/4" toe-in is what spec is from what I remember, but a lot of guys set them differently to help not tear up hay fields and the like. As long as it doesn't wear tires and doesn't tear up the fields when turning is what really counts. Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redironh Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Sparky you got me on that one. I went out and looked and there it was on inside end of tie rod, oops! This still should not matter if it is good now and you move everything the same number of holes the toe in/out should not change as the adjustment would be on the inside end of tie rod which you would not remove to adjust axel. I would think getting that axel tube to move would be your biggest concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucer95 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah I'm a little worried about getting it to move myself but I've been soaking it in blaster every chance I get. As far as the holes in the tie rod end go is it the same since it's a Schwartz front end? The tractor is not here or I would go look myself and can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Ok, I was going to try to be the first guy to respond to this but couldn't find my official IH operators manual so I have been waiting for some other nice guy to help. I have since found it, YIPPPPEEEE, On Page 27 of the Operators Manual for my 560, 460 it Specifically calls for 1/4 to 3/8 inch toe in measured from the rear wheel edge (Axel height) to the front wheel edge (axel Height) I know you are inquiring about a 706 but I don't think it would be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucer95 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Thanks Lorenzo that's the numbers I was looking for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 measured between points A and B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucer95 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 Got everything moved in today, thanks everyone for the help. Had to pull the tubes clear out and wire wheel them and oiled them up and they slid right in. Tie rods were no big deal either. The only problem is it doesn't turn the same both directions. Both tie rods seem to be adjusted to the left not sure why but I think I can move it over and fix that. Again thanks Lorenzo they were properly toed before and after adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redironh Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Recount your holes. I did that once and spent a couple of hours looking. When I found that the left one was one hole off it took minutes to adjust. Silly mistakes like that I will never forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucer95 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share Posted July 3, 2014 You can count the exposed threads on the inner pipe, there are only 2 on the left and probably 10-12 on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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