TroyDairy Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 4/12/2019 at 5:14 PM, 806 man said: Troy, Don't forget what tomorrow is. It's Paccar day from 11.00-3.00. Hope to see you there. I know...we had deal at school and the Dairy Princess lunch. Girls 4H buddy/sitter won! So they were happy! The 170 had a leak...and bad hose..and loose oil pan...dented driveline shield....and was just very icky from 20 years an 13500hr of use. How in the heck do you get a machine clean! I go to a dealer and a old tractor and they are spotless. I did 2hr let sit and came back and did another hour. Still missed oily gunk in rails. If we had bigger heated shop (an good prices) I honestly would pull metal and paint and decal her. She deserves resto. New ones are too much $ and either too big or to small it seems. Just perfect size tractor for us. She is starting to show her age though. I hear Bob Seagar in the back ground... got EQuip for manure line. If you do it yourself you get paid. So makes it almost all covered. Doing last alley of dry cow barn. We NEED to get the far offs out of neighbors barn! Too much $ and such a PITA. We had epiphany and figured out how to add 30-40 stalls so all dry can be at 1 place. Of course now some machinery will have to sit out side. But we got used trusses to extend the shop enough to just make roof. Do what you can.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, TroyDairy said: I know...we had deal at school and the Dairy Princess lunch. Girls 4H buddy/sitter won! So they were happy! The 170 had a leak...and bad hose..and loose oil pan...dented driveline shield....and was just very icky from 20 years an 13500hr of use. How in the heck do you get a machine clean! I go to a dealer and a old tractor and they are spotless. I did 2hr let sit and came back and did another hour. Still missed oily gunk in rails. If we had bigger heated shop (an good prices) I honestly would pull metal and paint and decal her. She deserves resto. New ones are too much $ and either too big or to small it seems. Just perfect size tractor for us. She is starting to show her age though. I hear Bob Seagar in the back ground... got EQuip for manure line. If you do it yourself you get paid. So makes it almost all covered. Doing last alley of dry cow barn. We NEED to get the far offs out of neighbors barn! Too much $ and such a PITA. We had epiphany and figured out how to add 30-40 stalls so all dry can be at 1 place. Of course now some machinery will have to sit out side. But we got used trusses to extend the shop enough to just make roof. Do what you can.... What size line are you burying? Is it a supply for draging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 3 hours ago, bitty said: What size line are you burying? Is it a supply for draging? 6"...pretty normal for here. Some 8" now pumps can keep em clean. This is from lagoon to other side of creek. Uncle/Kin never irrigated or pumped across creek. Had to tank manure and he'd let it dry out. For the rent we cant afford to dry out!! We are hooking up here to underground/creek pte pipe we had bored under creek about 40-50 yds. It was cheaper than the bridge for a frikin 6" pipe NRCS thinks you need. Also 8 is allllooottt more $$, and my pump wont ever be 2500 gpm! Sat buy Miss Ag USA/Washington, isnt your girl doing it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, TroyDairy said: 6"...pretty normal for here. Some 8" now pumps can keep em clean. This is from lagoon to other side of creek. Uncle/Kin never irrigated or pumped across creek. Had to tank manure and he'd let it dry out. For the rent we cant afford to dry out!! We are hooking up here to underground/creek pte pipe we had bored under creek about 40-50 yds. It was cheaper than the bridge for a frikin 6" pipe NRCS thinks you need. Also 8 is allllooottt more $$, and my pump wont ever be 2500 gpm! Sat buy Miss Ag USA/Washington, isnt your girl doing it? I would love to have a few spots burried for pumping ........ Both of my girls were in the context last year for Mrs United States agriculture, younger one won at the national level. This year the group split off to another group similar but it is more AG related in the way it's judged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 What type of pipe are you guys running? HDPE? I would assume it needs to be a plastic with good abrasive and corrosion properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, AKwelder said: What type of pipe are you guys running? HDPE? I would assume it needs to be a plastic with good abrasive and corrosion properties. The gas wells around here occasionally are using HDPE pipe to run temporary water lines. it looks like extremely thick sidewall . I am assuming they must have some way with like a hot knife to melt one section to the next. I keep joking I'd like to steal about 6 miles of it and hold the guys hostage and have them weld it together for me so I can bury it .. . I am afraid that I don't have a good plan to avoid getting caught though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, bitty said: The gas wells around here occasionally are using HDPE pipe to run temporary water lines. it looks like extremely thick sidewall . I am assuming they must have some way with like a hot knife to melt one section to the next. I keep joking I'd like to steal about 6 miles of it and hold the guys hostage and have them weld it together for me so I can bury it .. . I am afraid that I don't have a good plan to avoid getting caught though Ha. I like it. HDPE is common here for use similar to what you describe. Not the best video but it covers how it is done, we use a better machine, but they rent fairly cheap 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 9 hours ago, AKwelder said: What type of pipe are you guys running? HDPE? I would assume it needs to be a plastic with good abrasive and corrosion properties. Pvc gasketed 6" and HDPE for push under creek. He "welded" a flange to each end for my FERNCO cast piece to bolt to and slide over the pvc. The end he tugged (i didnt watch him) had a interesting fitting with what appeared to have 2 electrode plugs on. Was bigger, so i think it was for hooking to the machine. His machine though is more automatic than that vid. Its sorcery how it is near seamless and stong. Tim if you want hdpe you better win lotto! Its like 5x per foot $. It still was $17000 for this 40 yards Fwiw HDPE is what our irrigation reelas are too. Same stuff but 4" basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, TroyDairy said: Pvc gasketed 6" and HDPE for push under creek. He "welded" a flange to each end for my FERNCO cast piece to bolt to and slide over the pvc. The end he tugged (i didnt watch him) had a interesting fitting with what appeared to have 2 electrode plugs on. Was bigger, so i think it was for hooking to the machine. His machine though is more automatic than that vid. Its sorcery how it is near seamless and stong. Tim if you want hdpe you better win lotto! Its like 5x per foot $. It still was $17000 for this 40 yards Fwiw HDPE is what our irrigation reelas are too. Same stuff but 4" basically. Probably electro-fusion couplings, you hook a box up to the points and it heats internal coils a set amount for the desired affect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardporter1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 use the hdpe pipe for waterlines. butt weld it with 400 degtee iron. the jigs to hold it are $$$ so i use the weld coupler unions. lay on the surface or bury. guy said 50 year lifespan. tough stuff. i use 1 1/4" diameter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, TroyDairy said: Tim if you want hdpe you better win lotto! Its like 5x per foot $. It still was $17000 for this 40 yards Fwiw HDPE is what our irrigation reelas are too. Same stuff but 4" basically. Wow, I knew it would have to be expensive but I wouldn't have guessed that much. I guess I'll have to work part-time for the pipeline company and get a huge lunch box like Johnny Cash had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, bitty said: Wow, I knew it would have to be expensive but I wouldn't have guessed that much. I guess I'll have to work part-time for the pipeline company and get a huge lunch box like Johnny Cash had Thats the boring too but it is very spendy when big. Here its used for municipal water etc b/c of speed of install vs PVC. Even though more money for pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Just bought 2 more gallons of Darigold to get started for the week, price is up, hope your seeing some of it. Costco has more then doubled the price of Kirkland brand double gallons in 6 months they have been open here. Maybe things are getting better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
806 man Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 9:17 PM, TroyDairy said: Thats the boring too but it is very spendy when big. Here its used for municipal water etc b/c of speed of install vs PVC. Even though more money for pipe. Did u have Willy B do line for you? I used him several years ago for 2 lines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, AKwelder said: Just bought 2 more gallons of Darigold to get started for the week, price is up, hope your seeing some of it. Costco has more then doubled the price of Kirkland brand double gallons in 6 months they have been open here. Maybe things are getting better On edge of break even. Aloooot of cows have went to new careers as beef cows last quarter. Over 70k head a week were butchered last few weeks. Near record or better most weeks. The spring flush isnt amting to much reports say either. I can't believe costco. It is by no means dbl in price and Darigold sells them the milk for a pennies profit. When folks opine how terrible wally world is i mention costco and amazon/whole foods. They are ruthless to suppliers. While foods did big brag lately about passing cost cutting to store shelves recently. Trying to have healthy food for less. So happy happy. Who do you think they cut? I bet packers and distributors aint suffering. I know organic growers and producers are getting hacked. The extra for growing orgazmic is almost none existent in most fields. Ugh....better quit before i get rilled up! Thanks for buying! Every # helps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, TroyDairy said: On edge of break even. Aloooot of cows have went to new careers as beef cows last quarter. Over 70k head a week were butchered last few weeks. Near record or better most weeks. The spring flush isnt amting to much reports say either. I can't believe costco. It is by no means dbl in price and Darigold sells them the milk for a pennies profit. When folks opine how terrible wally world is i mention costco and amazon/whole foods. They are ruthless to suppliers. While foods did big brag lately about passing cost cutting to store shelves recently. Trying to have healthy food for less. So happy happy. Who do you think they cut? I bet packers and distributors aint suffering. I know organic growers and producers are getting hacked. The extra for growing orgazmic is almost none existent in most fields. Ugh....better quit before i get rilled up! Thanks for buying! Every # helps. When they opened the Costco here in November they were selling the double 1 gallon pack for $3. Today it was $7.99. Two 1/2 gallon Darigold in paper were $6.99 lots of Kirkland and mostly Darigold in the cooler. Thanks for the good stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 So it begins. Doing just top fields since driest. Got 3" last week so low ones are rice paddies yet. Main thing is we neeeed silage.. No extra hay in the entire PNW and $$ if you find it. We have 9 days left of grass silage. This 80a will tide us over for few weeks. Hope foreguess is right that we have wet weekend then long run of nice. Kinda fun site... www.whereismymilkfrom.com 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Hopefully you can get ahead of the feed needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Rainer Darigold and Boise ID Darigold in my fridge right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt756 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 your hay looks good, we are crossing our fingers here in central wis, ground was bare till January no snow cover, expecting big winterkill? on top of the prices milk is bringing doesn't look to good, I agree with cow slaughter, but still lots of herds selling in this area, guys must just wake up and say that's enough, cant think selling now with these prices would be anybodies first choice, and it doesn't really pay to treat a cow unless you really like her , had one that looked like she might of injured the end of her teat a bit, just doesn't pay to fool around with them, at least bull calves around here have really jumped up in price, wasn't 2 months ago neighbor that works at sale barn was shooting 40 or more at the end of the day, wonder why they have risen in price? do you think it has anything to do with the swine fever in china? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, pt756 said: your hay looks good, we are crossing our fingers here in central wis, ground was bare till January no snow cover, expecting big winterkill? on top of the prices milk is bringing doesn't look to good, I agree with cow slaughter, but still lots of herds selling in this area, guys must just wake up and say that's enough, cant think selling now with these prices would be anybodies first choice, and it doesn't really pay to treat a cow unless you really like her , had one that looked like she might of injured the end of her teat a bit, just doesn't pay to fool around with them, at least bull calves around here have really jumped up in price, wasn't 2 months ago neighbor that works at sale barn was shooting 40 or more at the end of the day, wonder why they have risen in price? do you think it has anything to do with the swine fever in china? Here Hol bulls are 10 to 20. AngXHol 150. Hol hfrs day old 30 40. Heifers have jumped..springers 1400 to 1600. Cows still 1000 1100. In Feb this looked rough...we generally dont get snow cover. Got real dry and cold...looked bleak. Then got rain and 60s in March and poof greened up. Ended up doing about 100a. Soft in places but we'll manage. I'll ted (where did that word come from anyway?) It out after chores in morning and maybe agian 3 4 pm. Plan is chopping noon friday. Forgot...field trip with 1 of girls to the .museum....love that place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZG6E Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, TroyDairy said: Here Hol bulls are 10 to 20. AngXHol 150. Hol hfrs day old 30 40. Heifers have jumped..springers 1400 to 1600. Cows still 1000 1100. In Feb this looked rough...we generally dont get snow cover. Got real dry and cold...looked bleak. Then got rain and 60s in March and poof greened up. Ended up doing about 100a. Soft in places but we'll manage. I'll ted (where did that word come from anyway?) It out after chores in morning and maybe agian 3 4 pm. Plan is chopping noon friday. Forgot...field trip with 1 of girls to the .museum....love that place! Wow what a difference between how things are done. Here, you can cut good heavy alfalfa that's maybe 5% bloomed and then chop it the next day most times. If it's 30-40% bloomed I've seen guys run the swather just a few hours ahead of the chopper. This is for feedlot haylage though not dairy so I suppose there is some difference there. I'm sure you guys cut at less maturity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, ZachGrant said: Wow what a difference between how things are done. Here, you can cut good heavy alfalfa that's maybe 5% bloomed and then chop it the next day most times. If it's 30-40% bloomed I've seen guys run the swather just a few hours ahead of the chopper. This is for feedlot haylage though not dairy so I suppose there is some difference there. I'm sure you guys cut at less maturity. Zach here the rest of season we cut morning chop next afternoon. No alfalfa here...orchard and fescues....40 to 50# per ac seedings. So like carpet not stalks n stems like alf. 3 4 tons a acre just this cutting. Green green heavy...so we have to fluff it up to get down to 35%ish DM. And yeah if there are heads...its junk, is our motto. We try for 29 to 32 day cuttings till 1st week of October. Now the rye cover crop...hopppe for 4 5 dry days. Cut and leave alone 2 days then rake and chop. Rough corn fields so dont wanna go over more than have too. And its sticky wet great feed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny bill o Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 holstein heifer calves are the $20-30 ones, bull calves are higher. I sure wish that I could get $1500 for a springer. I'm selling haylage to two neighbors who are out of feed. the wet fall kept both corn and haylage from getting completely harvested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 13 hours ago, TroyDairy said: So it begins. Doing just top fields since driest. Got 3" last week so low ones are rice paddies yet. Main thing is we neeeed silage.. No extra hay in the entire PNW and $$ if you find it. We have 9 days left of grass silage. This 80a will tide us over for few weeks. Hope foreguess is right that we have wet weekend then long run of nice. Kinda fun site... www.whereismymilkfrom.com I've wanted to know what plants dairy products came for some time. .... Our Cottage Cheese in Westby, WI, our Milk bottled in DePere, WI.... Thanks Troy for that http://whereismymilkfrom.com site. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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