pt756 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 hello troy, so our neighbor came from Indiana, he left 10 years ago and moved here 50 cows, he told me the other day his brother in ind. sold it all, 80 acres , 10 year old free stall barn and 5 year old parlor 1.3 million. I don't know good price or not,going to Missouri to raise chickens now. then then I asked what about cows had about 120, said best offer was 800 a piece, buyer did give him a 1000, then I asked him why all these herds from far away being sold at priemer, he goes there a lot, claims that south Dakota herd was turned down by several sale barns, so they make the 3 state trip, he claims that their are still better prices around here. went to our local coop annual meeting a week ago pretty gloomy situation, accts high, then manager said well some are just not going to get credit this spring to plant. crops in storage but people unwilling to sell at these prices, and comparing pay prices the last week my 400 cow friends did not get any better than the smaller guys, all the goodies are gone, big volume premiums .they use to always do a dollar or better then us previously , we all ended up with about 15 to 16 a cwt depending on components, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithFink Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, pt756 said: hello troy, so our neighbor came from Indiana, he left 10 years ago and moved here 50 cows, he told me the other day his brother in ind. sold it all, 80 acres , 10 year old free stall barn and 5 year old parlor 1.3 million. I don't know good price or not,going to Missouri to raise chickens now. then then I asked what about cows had about 120, said best offer was 800 a piece, buyer did give him a 1000, then I asked him why all these herds from far away being sold at priemer, he goes there a lot, claims that south Dakota herd was turned down by several sale barns, so they make the 3 state trip, he claims that their are still better prices around here. went to our local coop annual meeting a week ago pretty gloomy situation, accts high, then manager said well some are just not going to get credit this spring to plant. crops in storage but people unwilling to sell at these prices, and comparing pay prices the last week my 400 cow friends did not get any better than the smaller guys, all the goodies are gone, big volume premiums .they use to always do a dollar or better then us previously , we all ended up with about 15 to 16 a cwt depending on components, $1000/ea. That sounds like a pretty good price, given how things have been going at dairy sales for the last 18 months or so. pt756, who buys your milk? Okay, another question for those of you selling milk - is the mandatory dairy checkoff worth it? I've never thought about it much until lately. I'm pinching every penny I can find to muster up enough money to buy hay. Then one day I get my year end summary from the dairy and see that the amount I have taken from me by the National and State (WI) dairy checkoff collectors was nothing to sneeze at. I don't ship a lot of milk in one year's time, but the amount they took from me would have almost been enough to buy a gooseneck load of hay. So I wondered, did I get a proper return on my investment to the checkoff? I doubt it. As I understand it, the mandatory checkoff money is used to promote the sale and use of dairy products. But why am I paying for it? Why don't the retailers pay the checkoff? Are not they the ones profiting from the sale of dairy products? All I sell is raw milk. When it is unloaded from the truck at the plant, that milk is no longer mine. If the cheese, yogurt, butter, ice cream, or bottling plant is using my cheap milk to make a value-added product that they then need to sell, wholesale, or retail, why are they not contributing to the checkoff. Why do I need to sell them my milk for cheap, and then pay for ad campaigns that ask the public to buy their product? Now, I realize that a co-op environment is a bit different. Technically, I am a part-owner of the co-op, so the milk product being sold is still partly mine, and I need to convince the consumer to buy it. But in this case, I already have a small percentage of my check withheld for co-op advertising. Why should I also pay to sell products made by other co-ops or privately-owned processing plants? They are not sharing their profits with me. Am I wrong? Hopefully I am. If I'm right, then I'll just feel even more stupid for letting my money be stolen from me every month.... I'm very willing to see the other side if anyone wants to present it to me. Okay, sorry for the rant. It was spurred on by reading the latest issue of Hoard's last night. A glowing article by their editor on the "great" FUEL UP TO PLAY 60 program that I am apparently helping to fund. I don't believe dairy products were mentioned even once in the article... Keith- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, mader656 said: Trailer brakes are just evil...must be electric. I wonder if the electric hydraulic are just as bad... Cattle jockeys have hydro/elc. They say way more betterer. Still need adj etc but just work like a drum brake should. You know...BOTH shoes absord heat so 1 dont crack and destroy the other! Trailer needs hub/drums now with apk 40k miles on it. Face the mag attracts too is rough so un reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearclash Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I used to pull an old gooseneck Redi Haul trailer with a 350 bu grain box on it. It had hydraulic disc brakes. They had been vac operated back in the day, we ran them with an electric over hydraulic unit. That bugger could STOP! It did take some getting used to the slight delay inherent to that system though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillskinefarms Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Gearclash said: I used to pull an old gooseneck Redi Haul trailer with a 350 bu grain box on it. It had hydraulic disc brakes. They had been vac operated back in the day, we ran them with an electric over hydraulic unit. That bugger could STOP! It did take some getting used to the slight delay inherent to that system though. My livestock trailer has elec. over hyd. brakes. As mentioned, there is a slight delay on application but they will STOP. Much better than straight elec. Troy, trying to get you to page 200! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
806 man Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 hours ago, hillskinefarms said: My livestock trailer has elec. over hyd. brakes. As mentioned, there is a slight delay on application but they will STOP. Much better than straight elec. Troy, trying to get you to page 200! yup me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Our cattle trailer has electric brakes that don't work anymore but it doesn't leave the farm and gets pulled by a '72 Mack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJH Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 12 hours ago, TroyDairy said: If you can have a trailer with brakes....dont get em. Life be so much easier. Happy Valentine's babe! (Nice nice used appliances! My washer leaked an soaked area?) Had to scoop out alleys after thawed some. Had not scraped for 2 weeks! Like sawdust slushy. I find it amazing when a guy is trying to save money the odd things crap out that happens to me all the time ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new guy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 If it makes ya feel better on the trailer.. Today driving down the interstate there was a van riding on a rollback. Rollback was on the side of the road missing the drive tires on one side. Guess he was waiting for a bigger rollback to haul him?????? Keep yer chin up!? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 15 hours ago, TroyDairy said: If you can have a trailer with brakes....dont get em. Life be so much easier. Happy Valentine's babe! (Nice nice used appliances! My washer leaked an soaked area?) Had to scoop out alleys after thawed some. Had not scraped for 2 weeks! Like sawdust slushy. Hope the warm weather brings better times for you Nice drain connection on the washer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new guy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 And you have to license your water heaters?? Thats crazy!!???? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jass1660 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Ttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1468 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, TroyDairy said: Cattle jockeys have hydro/elc. They say way more betterer. Still need adj etc but just work like a drum brake should. You know...BOTH shoes absord heat so 1 dont crack and destroy the other! Trailer needs hub/drums now with apk 40k miles on it. Face the mag attracts too is rough so un reliable Right now for a few extra bucks I’m refacing the mag part of trailer brakes on my Lathe for a guy who works on trailers. He said he can get twice the life out of the if he gets them turned. They are hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, NY1468 said: Right now for a few extra bucks I’m refacing the mag part of trailer brakes on my Lathe for a guy who works on trailers. He said he can get twice the life out of the if he gets them turned. They are hard... Really? We were told by shops dont bother. Now that face it wore and it makes the Mag 'over travel' and we've had 1 fall off in drum even. Or be all scoared up and not work. Dang drums are 375 each. Cant find any one besides our local towing parts supplier to get them from. Figured the 'new' trailer is 4 this week and has apx 70000 miles on it. So.... Eric, I know it's kinda trailer park. Basement and 1958. I am assuming the washer wasnt down here originally. It works well but yeah that room is not pretty. Mechanical/barn clothes/storage area. I do like the cement floor and walls along with 2 floor drains though! My dream for Her would be to move the heater to the lf og the door there. Replumb the septic enough to set the w/d next to each other proper and rock the plywood and ceiling. Clean it up nice. We were going to sheet rock it at 1x but I just wasnt motivated to do that much work. Esp covering up 60 year old plumbing. You know the day they painted it will spring a leak!! The plate!?!? LOL... I ran over the kids bike camping 2.5 years ago. Friend repaired the front end of truck and I just never put it on. Its required in WA but I have never gotten flax for it. #...I had no idea....kinda neat or pathetic you'all watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Look online for the drum I briefly saw drums for dexter 7-8k for 150 range with free shipping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 That's a good bunch of miles in 4 years on the trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwelder Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TroyDairy said: Really? We were told by shops dont bother. Now that face it wore and it makes the Mag 'over travel' and we've had 1 fall off in drum even. Or be all scoared up and not work. Dang drums are 375 each. Cant find any one besides our local towing parts supplier to get them from. Figured the 'new' trailer is 4 this week and has apx 70000 miles on it. So.... Eric, I know it's kinda trailer park. Basement and 1958. I am assuming the washer wasnt down here originally. It works well but yeah that room is not pretty. Mechanical/barn clothes/storage area. I do like the cement floor and walls along with 2 floor drains though! My dream for Her would be to move the heater to the lf og the door there. Replumb the septic enough to set the w/d next to each other proper and rock the plywood and ceiling. Clean it up nice. We were going to sheet rock it at 1x but I just wasnt motivated to do that much work. Esp covering up 60 year old plumbing. You know the day they painted it will spring a leak!! The plate!?!? LOL... I ran over the kids bike camping 2.5 years ago. Friend repaired the front end of truck and I just never put it on. Its required in WA but I have never gotten flax for it. #...I had no idea....kinda neat or pathetic you'all watch... I was just chuckling when I saw it, we all have these little items,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mader656 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 For about 3 years my washer drain was dictated to a garden hose that drained into the utility sink...no judgement here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1468 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 11 hours ago, TroyDairy said: Really? We were told by shops dont bother. Now that face it wore and it makes the Mag 'over travel' and we've had 1 fall off in drum even. Or be all scoared up and not work. Dang drums are 375 each. Cant find any one besides our local towing parts supplier to get them from. Figured the 'new' trailer is 4 this week and has apx 70000 miles on it. So.... Eric, I know it's kinda trailer park. Basement and 1958. I am assuming the washer wasnt down here originally. It works well but yeah that room is not pretty. Mechanical/barn clothes/storage area. I do like the cement floor and walls along with 2 floor drains though! My dream for Her would be to move the heater to the lf og the door there. Replumb the septic enough to set the w/d next to each other proper and rock the plywood and ceiling. Clean it up nice. We were going to sheet rock it at 1x but I just wasnt motivated to do that much work. Esp covering up 60 year old plumbing. You know the day they painted it will spring a leak!! The plate!?!? LOL... I ran over the kids bike camping 2.5 years ago. Friend repaired the front end of truck and I just never put it on. Its required in WA but I have never gotten flax for it. #...I had no idea....kinda neat or pathetic you'all watch... I’ve done quite a few for him over the last few years and he hasn’t said anything about magnets falling off. These are 7-8k drums and he said they are $147 a piece. I charge him $25 to turn just the face and he has someone else touch up the pad area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillskinefarms Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Still trying to get you to 200! Seems like not long ago I was trying to get you to 100. Where does the time go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitty Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, hillskinefarms said: Still trying to get you to 200! Seems like not long ago I was trying to get you to 100. Where does the time go? Every day is one more gone from the present and moved to the past 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, NY1468 said: I’ve done quite a few for him over the last few years and he hasn’t said anything about magnets falling off. These are 7-8k drums and he said they are $147 a piece. I charge him $25 to turn just the face and he has someone else touch up the pad area. These are basically the heaviest grease bearing elc brake dexters. 5/8 studs and 8000 (or 8500?) Axles. 17.5 rims and E Goodyear tires (every other brand dont last at all). Heck event the GY are 4 of 5 replaced and the last oem one i see yesterday is chunked up so got another $225 one on way. They gotta wt 100#s. We've called few online retailers and told them #s and they dont have 5/8 studs and few didnt even list em. We had 7k ones....bad deal. 16" tires were terrible. We avg 1200 to 1500 miles per month not counting local hauling. Thats just getting springers and bringing weaned ones over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDairy Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Heeeyyy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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