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20 hours ago, Fred B said:

so what did oliver use from cockshutt when they took it over?

That was White that bought them out, well if my info is correct it was the Combine devision because Cockshutt had one of the best combines at that time simple to work on and threshed a clean sample of grain and little lose over the walkers (an oldtimer told me that had one).

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i'm sure your right , with the combine, but i was thinking of something simple. the name badge on the side of the hood is a cockshutt spear, that says oliver. although, the point is broken off. i looked at a cockshutt 570 today, it has features similar to a oliver, the front cast engine cradle, and ipto at the back  look  somewhat alike. but i believe oliver used these features first?

On 6/8/2017 at 10:04 AM, new guy said:

I might have your solution....

 

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43 minutes ago, Fred B said:

i'm sure your right , with the combine, but i was thinking of something simple. the name badge on the side of the hood is a cockshutt spear, that says oliver. although, the point is broken off. i looked at a cockshutt 570 today, it has features similar to a oliver, the front cast engine cradle, and ipto at the back  look  somewhat alike. but i believe oliver used these features first?

 

Yes, White took over both Oliver and Cockshutt. in the early sixties. The Cockshutt combines were sold as Olivers with green paint. 

That 570 Cockshutt tractor you mention was the last series of true Cockshutt tractors. The next ones were Olivers painted red. 1600, 1700 , etc. Our local Cockshutt dealer sold a lot of them. Here is one of my favourite Cockshutt ads. About 1959.

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50 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

Yes, White took over both Oliver and Cockshutt. in the early sixties. The Cockshutt combines were sold as Olivers with green paint. 

That 570 Cockshutt tractor you mention was the last series of true Cockshutt tractors. The next ones were Olivers painted red. 1600, 1700 , etc. Our local Cockshutt dealer sold a lot of them. Here is one of my favourite Cockshutt ads. About 1959.

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Does are cool looking tractors, I have once heard that Cockshutt had a 580 in the works with a 1000rpm PTO and only one of the prototypes had survived but not sure anymore if that is true. Here is a photo of a Killbery Grain Saver you had posted an ad a while back and I thought I would post this pic of one that I photographed at the Agriculture Museum in Austin Manitoba

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4 hours ago, U-C said:

Does are cool looking tractors, I have once heard that Cockshutt had a 580 in the works with a 1000rpm PTO and only one of the prototypes had survived but not sure anymore if that is true. Here is a photo of a Killbery Grain Saver you had posted an ad a while back and I thought I would post this pic of one that I photographed at the Agriculture Museum in Austin Manitoba

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7 hours ago, U-C said:

Does are cool looking tractors, I have once heard that Cockshutt had a 580 in the works with a 1000rpm PTO and only one of the prototypes had survived but not sure anymore if that is true. Here is a photo of a Killbery Grain Saver you had posted an ad a while back and I thought I would post this pic of one that I photographed at the Agriculture Museum in Austin Manitoba

 

Its nice to see a Killberry swather preserved. They were one of the pioneers in self propelled swathers. We have come a long way since then. 

Yes, I've seen pictures of the prototype Cockshutt 580 tractor. In fact it was on the classic tractors calendar one year.

Here is what Cockshutt was selling in 1961 as their biggest tractor. You could see both Oliver and Cockshutt ads in the same Country Guide magazine back then. Same tractor. Different paint and decals.  

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1 hour ago, U-C said:

I know this photo of a Cockshutt 540 with a Cockshutt swather isn't an ad but still like to share it.

 

Nice view of the Cockshutt  machinery. That number 2 swather was popular in it's day although it looks like a crude old thing by today's standards. You can see one included in this 1953 combine ad. 

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2 hours ago, Loadstar said:

Nice view of the Cockshutt  machinery. That number 2 swather was popular in it's day although it looks like a crude old thing by today's standards. You can see one included in this 1953 combine ad. 

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Nice, real Canadian made farm equipment. I think we had once such a swather behind the house in the bush but sadly got sold for scrap, I wasn't happy when that happened, back then I didn't know that it was a Cockshutt but it also could of been a Minneapolis Moline Swather. I took a photo of of that combine too at the show and beside it was its successor.

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On 6/14/2017 at 9:21 PM, U-C said:

Nice, real Canadian made farm equipment. I think we had once such a swather behind the house in the bush but sadly got sold for scrap, I wasn't happy when that happened, back then I didn't know that it was a Cockshutt but it also could of been a Minneapolis Moline Swather. I took a photo of of that combine too at the show and beside it was its successor.

 

Interesting side by side comparison  of the old and new Cockshutt combines. The old one looks much like the model 132 that my uncle used for years. We were always impressed by those big "aircraft" tires on them. They had their name right on the tires, as seen in this 1953 ad. 

 

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8 hours ago, Loadstar said:

Interesting side by side comparison  of the old and new Cockshutt combines. The old one looks much like the model 132 that my uncle used for years. We were always impressed by those big "aircraft" tires on them. They had their name right on the tires, as seen in this 1953 ad. 

 

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I wonder what kind of aircraft used that tire, a DC-3 maybe or ww2 bombers. Their is a organic guy in Saskatchewan that grows red fife wheat don't remember what his farm is called only remember seeing him on the Prairie Farm Report and he has a Cockshutt combine. 

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On 6/17/2017 at 5:10 PM, U-C said:

I wonder what kind of aircraft used that tire, a DC-3 maybe or ww2 bombers. Their is a organic guy in Saskatchewan that grows red fife wheat don't remember what his farm is called only remember seeing him on the Prairie Farm Report and he has a Cockshutt combine. 

 

I am not sure but think those aircraft tires might have been from WWII bombers. And I remember the guy with the Cockshutt combine on PFR too. It was one of the red and yellow machines. 

Now I just happened to find this IH fridge ad in a 1952 magazine to show here. 

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Since we were talking Mercury cars and trucks on another thread, here is an ad I have from 1953 showing the Mercury pickup truck. They offered the full line  from pickups right up to the big rigs. 

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On 6/23/2017 at 10:32 AM, Loadstar said:

Since we were talking Mercury cars and trucks on another thread, here is an ad I have from 1953 showing the Mercury pickup truck. They offered the full line  from pickups right up to the big rigs. 

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On 6/20/2017 at 11:38 PM, Loadstar said:

I am not sure but think those aircraft tires might have been from WWII bombers. And I remember the guy with the Cockshutt combine on PFR too. It was one of the red and yellow machines. 

Now I just happened to find this IH fridge ad in a 1952 magazine to show here. 

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Nice ads Ralph,

Its just amazing what International Harvester manufactured over the years even milking machines at a time, but I am not sure if they sold does Refrigerators in Switzerland. Also like that Mercury ad would be nice finding one of does trucks around here in my area in Manitoba.

I know this isn't an ad but a promotional film from the 30s or early 40s of the RAPID Model P Motor Mower:

 

-Urs

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On 6/24/2017 at 1:01 PM, U-C said:


Nice ads Ralph,Its just amazing what International Harvester manufactured over the years even milking machines at a time, but I am not sure if they sold does Refrigerators in Switzerland. Also like that Mercury ad would be nice finding one of does trucks around here in my area in Manitoba.

I know this isn't an ad but a promotional film from the 30s or early 40s of the RAPID Model P Motor Mower:

 

-Urs

I guess that motor mower was a big improvement over the scythe alright.My Uncle bought a newer (80s) version and it's name was "BCS". 

A couple of these Fowler crawler tractors showed up locally recently so here is an ad from 1950. There were a few of the tractors sold here but I've never seen the crawler version. 

 

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On 6/26/2017 at 8:37 PM, Loadstar said:

I guess that motor mower was a big improvement over the scythe alright.My Uncle bought a newer (80s) version and it's name was "BCS". 

A couple of these Fowler crawler tractors showed up locally recently so here is an ad from 1950. There were a few of the tractors sold here but I've never seen the crawler version. 

 

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That is true it was an improvement but the scythe is still being used today in places were the Motor Mower can't go. When my grandfather was farming in the 50's he still had to mow close to an acre with the scythe but the rest of his hay land was cut with an AEBI AM 52 Motor Mower also the green feed and the corn for silage was also cut with that mower. BCS is an Italian company and they make the smallest mower for AEBI now but all the other Motor mowers AEBI make have a hydro transmission. Did that BCS have other attachments? 

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This is how the AEBI AM 52 looks like (this mower isn't ours)

Here is another promotional film of the Products of the RAPID Company, the film is from the 60s

Cool ad by the way

-Urs

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On 6/27/2017 at 10:53 PM, U-C said:

That is true it was an improvement but the scythe is still being used today in places were the Motor Mower can't go. When my grandfather was farming in the 50's he still had to mow close to an acre with the scythe but the rest of his hay land was cut with an AEBI AM 52 Motor Mower also the green feed and the corn for silage was also cut with that mower. BCS is an Italian company and they make the smallest mower for AEBI now but all the other Motor mowers AEBI make have a hydro transmission. Did that BCS have other attachments? 

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This is how the AEBI AM 52 looks like (this mower isn't ours)

 

 

-Urs

I think other attachments were available for the BCS cutter but can't say for sure. This one only has the cutter bar, about 2 feet wide as I recall. 

Since we are getting into haying season here is a very vintage ad I have from 1907 for Wood equipment featuring a rake, binder and mower. I have a similar rake here but it is my grandfather's Massey Harris. 

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Here is documentary film of the Swiss Tire industry (Firestone's Swiss Factory) showcasing tire manufacturing. The Tractor seen in the film is a Buhrer manufactured by the Fritz Buhrer Traktorenfabrik in Hinwil Switzerland (company still exists only as a parts company www.buehrertraktoren.ch)

-Urs

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Wow , time has flown by and its been a while. Urs, I don't speak German but the video was interesting. No doubt the rubber tire shortage of WWII was the theme there. 

I'll just throw in this timely ad on a hot summer evening featuring the IH air conditioner for 1955. 

 

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On 7/8/2017 at 8:32 PM, Loadstar said:

Wow , time has flown by and its been a while. Urs, I don't speak German but the video was interesting. No doubt the rubber tire shortage of WWII was the theme there. 

I'll just throw in this timely ad on a hot summer evening featuring the IH air conditioner for 1955. 

 

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I never knew that IH made AC's.  Yup the first part of the film was about the rubber shortage of WW2. Some tractor companies came up with there own solution about the problem like the Ernst Meili Tractor company that made out of junked car springs steel wheels (the Meili Company at this time only made Doodlebug tractors out of all car makes). About 600 of this steel wheels were made:

Meili tractor (tractor made out of car parts only the final drive was build by Meili and the steel wheels)

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a Vevey tractor with Meili Spring wheels

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Meili Spring wheels on a Huerlimann tractor back view

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-Urs

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On 7/11/2017 at 6:10 PM, U-C said:

I never knew that IH made AC's.  Yup the first part of the film was about the rubber shortage of WW2. Some tractor companies came up with there own solution about the problem like the Ernst Meili Tractor company that made out of junked car springs steel wheels (the Meili Company at this time only made Doodlebug tractors out of all car makes). About 600 of this steel wheels were made

-Urs

Interesting idea for wheels. I'd guess they rode smoother than the typical steel wheels and lugs we used to see here on tractors. 

Here is a 1950 Esso grease ad. I remember my dad filling the grease gun with a pump and bucket like this one. In fact I still have it somewhere. 

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On 7/15/2017 at 2:26 PM, lightninboy said:

I never saw a grease gun filler with a hose on it for greasing.

No , the one I have here has an outlet that you plug the grease gun into. Special filler adaptor is on the grease gun.  Then just pump the gun full. 

This one  from Aro in 1947 was quite a deluxe greasing unit. Not the kind  of thing you would want to be carrying up the ladder of a  combine  though. 

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