Vintage Ads

[Loadstar]

International 4186 ad from the late 70s I think. Interesting roll cage looks like it was added on around the cab.  

[Delta Dirt]

Re:  4186 roll cage---external of the cab

That is most likely from the factory----seems like I have seen that design several times before.

Also------seems like John Deere had a seperate roll bar inside some of their early cabs (or maybe it was an aftermarket cab)??

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Re:  6000 Fords

Had been trying to remember what Ford called their shift on the go transmission-------"Selectaspeed".  Thanks for rekindling my memory.

Looked the 6000 up on Tractor Data-----it was rated @ 65--66 pto hp.  (sorta in the 560 range @ 60 pto hp).  Back in the '60s--------several of the Ford dealers down this way touted the 6000 as competition for the Deere 4010 (approximately 80 pto hp).   This probably left the farmer expecting way too much out of the 6000 and many were overloaded.

Tractor Data shows hydraulic capacity @ 3.9 gallons (?)-------that would be working the hel! out of the hydraulic oil (especially with the Selectaspeed)??

Sure was a neat and impressive tractor for it's day though.  I haven't seen one in years around the Delta.

DD

[dale560]

2 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Re:  4186 roll cage---external of the cab

That is most likely from the factory----seems like I have seen that design several times before.

Also------seems like John Deere had a seperate roll bar inside some of their early cabs (or maybe it was an aftermarket cab)??

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Re:  6000 Fords

Had been trying to remember what Ford called their shift on the go transmission-------"Selectaspeed".  Thanks for rekindling my memory.

Looked the 6000 up on Tractor Data-----it was rated @ 65--66 pto hp.  (sorta in the 560 range @ 60 pto hp).  Back in the '60s--------several of the Ford dealers down this way touted the 6000 as competition for the Deere 4010 (approximately 80 pto hp).   This probably left the farmer expecting way too much out of the 6000 and many were overloaded.

Tractor Data shows hydraulic capacity @ 3.9 gallons (?)-------that would be working the hel! out of the hydraulic oil (especially with the Selectaspeed)??

Sure was a neat and impressive tractor for it's day though.  I haven't seen one in years around the Delta.

DD

Bounced my head off a roll bar in a 7020 JD many times as a kid. And ran a 4166 for about a 100 hrs pulling drills when dad had John Deere tractor problems never so glad as the day I drove that tractor back to dealer.

[Loadstar]

2 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Re:  4186 roll cage---external of the cab

That is most likely from the factory----seems like I have seen that design several times before.

Also------seems like John Deere had a seperate roll bar inside some of their early cabs (or maybe it was an aftermarket cab)??

 

Tractor Data shows hydraulic capacity @ 3.9 gallons (?)-------that would be working the hel! out of the hydraulic oil (especially with the Selectaspeed)??

 

DD

Anson, that JD cab was called the "roll guard cab" at the time. I'm not sure, they might have been built by Hinson but don't quote me on that as I have not done the research.  Came out about 1970 I believe and was quite up to date and innovative for the time. I remember riding in them and being impressed. 

Ford got around any hydraulic system shortfall on the 6000 by having an accumulator in the system that allowed fast lifting on demand. 

Here is a little older Ford ad from 1955 featuring the model 800 "red belly" as some called them. Referring to the red painted engine and drive train. Also the smaller 600 series. 

[ray54]

Interesting you should post add for a 4186 as I just saw a 4100 advertised. Second owner claimed he had put 12 hours on it and everything worked. 

[Loadstar]

Looks like a whole week went by without any new vintage ads. Time sure does fly. But I'm not out of ads. I've had this one for years. Not sure where I got it as I'm sure there was no corn farming equipment sold around here back in 1969. Appears to be an Oliver tractor pulling a Lilliston cultivator through a corn field. 

 

[George 2]

On ‎24‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 11:00 AM, Loadstar said:

Art, I beleive the Dexta was a slightly newer version of the old Fordson Major that I posted. Although they look very similar. 

And Ford haying equipment was very rare (almost non-existent ) here. Almost as rare as this Dearborn combine from 1951. 

The Dexta was a 35 HP tractor about the size of the MF35 with the 3 cyl diesel engine. It changed up in a complete revamp to the Ford 2000 and 3000 series in 1965. The Major was a 50 HP tractor that was changed to the Super Major, then the Power Major and finally a complete revamp into the Ford 5000 in 1965. There were lots of Dextas and various Major series in the area I grew up in. That is why I always said the IH B450 would have sold well in our area as they were a direct competitor to the Major series. Ford and Nuffield dominated the 50 HP market in the early 1960's in my area. There was not a 50 HP Farmall (450 or 460) to be seen anywhere in that area.   

[Delta Dirt]

Good to see the Lilliston rolling cultivator advertisment.

I had a 6 row (40 inch row) for cotton-----and an 8 row (30 inch row) for soybeans and. milo.   Actually cross plowed the cotton with the 30 inch bean setup.  We worked very close to the row-----and left a smooth row surface for later direct spray of post emerge applications.

Really had to hold it on the row--------that was prior to GPS guidance systems and Round-Up ready crops.  Lots of changes since the 80's.

Still have a toolbar and pile of row units from a couple of used units I picked up for parts.

DD

[redturbo]

 I don't have a scanner,  so took a picture.  Hope that's okay?  I live pretty close to the AB/SK,  18 miles into AB.                                                                 

                                                                                                                                                                              

[Loadstar]

8 hours ago, redturbo said:

 I don't have a scanner,  so took a picture.  Hope that's okay?  I live pretty close to the AB/SK,  18 miles into AB.                                                                 

                                                                                                                                                                              

 

Now that IH farming magazine is a real prize to have in anyone's collection. I don't have any of them so its interesting to see one. Camera works just fine for getting pictures of the old ads since some of them are too big to fit on the scanner anyway. I've done some with a two piece scan and then stitch them together but it takes time. If you hold the camera steady it gives a good image of the ad. 

Especially now that the forum accepts bigger photos. I used to have to down size them a lot but not any more. I had to use the camera for this page from an old Eaton's catalogue from the early fifties. Less than $20 for a 303 Lee Enfield. 

[redturbo]

I just picked it up from a guy at rpru in Des Moines in June.  Address on the back was a farmer in Manitoba.

[George 2]

I also have that Vol 37, No 3 in 1955 Canadian Tractor Farming magazine. My parents used to get them sent to us starting in late 1954 and continued to get them up into the 1970's . Then I started to get them from my local dealer. I have also bought copies from 1950 to 1954 to complete my collection. I also have some of the US version of Tractor farming from the 1940's and 1950's that I bought from vendors at shows. Sometime about 5 years from now I should sell the collection. One of the good issues was from about early 1963 showing the 4300 that Patricks John Deeres grandfather had in SW Manitoba. I remember looking at the pictures and wondered why such a large tractor was needed. Of course today 300 HP is small in 4wd terms.

[redturbo]

[TroyDairy]

 Ok, on the fords.  Just out of frame.  Should of took pic.  2 of them there.

 

[Loadstar]

2 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

 Ok, on the fords.  Just out of frame.  Should of took pic.  2 of them there.

 

 

I might be wrong but that Ford on the left looks like a "Jubilee" 1953 model. Nice cross motor Case there too. 

[George 2]

19 hours ago, redturbo said:

I have the next revision of that brochure and it includes the WD9 and WD6. That is probably a fall 1940 printing and the revision is a 1941 printing.

[U-C]

10 hours ago, Loadstar said:

I might be wrong but that Ford on the left looks like a "Jubilee" 1953 model. Nice cross motor Case there too. 

Here is a link to the promotional film for the Ford Golden Jubilee:

-Urs

[redturbo]

My all time favorite red tractor!

[frank.nl]

2 more, 1951

[U-C]

Here is a promotional film for the Farmall Cub 

 

[U-C]

And here is a promotional film of the International Harvester Company in Neuss Germany from 1956:

 

[Delta Dirt]

re:  Lilliston rolling cultivator ad from last week

Here is a picture of one of my old 6 row units that I gave to a tenant who rented a farm that I managed a number of years ago.  Cultivating cotton in Leflore County, Mississippi---------believe Willie's tractor was a 1206.

 

Willie had never heard of a GPS guidiance system at this time------but he could hold it on the row all day long.

DD

[U-C]

Baling silage with a small square baler promotional film in England with a IHC baler:

 

[U-C]

Here is an ad  for the Grunder Motor Mower:

The Grunder Company is a pioneer when it comes to Garden tillers it was the first company that made them starting in August 1 1917 when the company A. Grunder & Co. AG. was founded by August Grunder (1880-1957).

[Loadstar]

I am really slipping. Nearly a week since posting any vintage ads. Time just flies this time of year as harvest starts. Here is a Minneapolis Moline Harvestor SP 168 combine . 1955.