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This is a fresh find. I came across a 1903 issue of the "Albion Journal" which was a publication of the people of the county and their assets (including dogs :)). Albion is the town I grew up in and 3 miles east of where I currently live.  Painter & Frankland Hardware closed in 1996. I loved that place as a kid and would ride my bike there when I needed "supplies" for some childhood project. They had a rolling ladder along one side of the store running on the wooden floor and a sandstone set of steps leading into the building. I spent hours staring at the knives in the oak/glass showcase. The proprietor would sell me anything from a single nail/screw on up and seemed to take joy in helping a kid like me explore building things. 

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9 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

We see Hiniker and Year-A-Round (sp) here some but for the most part things were open station when new and left that way. 

Same where I grew up, We mostly saw Hiniker and Year-A-Round too, at least until '72.

After the Deere soundgards came out, I almost never saw an open station Deere bigger than a 4030, and not many of them.

 

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Here is another from the same 1903 publication. The 1899 and 1900 editions had no adds. I don't know about this place but they had several product lines. 

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7 hours ago, Sledgehammer said:

This is a fresh find. I came across a 1903 issue of the "Albion Journal" which was a publication of the people of the county and their assets (including dogs :)). Albion is the town I grew up in and 3 miles east of where I currently live.  Painter & Frankland Hardware closed in 1996. I loved that place as a kid and would ride my bike there when I needed "supplies" for some childhood project. They had a rolling ladder along one side of the store running on the wooden floor and a sandstone set of steps leading into the building. I spent hours staring at the knives in the oak/glass showcase. The proprietor would sell me anything from a single nail/screw on up and seemed to take joy in helping a kid like me explore building things. 

That is a real prize to find a magazine that age still in good enough condition to scan and save. I only have a few from the early 1900s and have posted a few somewhere way back in this thread. It looks like your Painter and Frankland Hardware store was a real General store with a bit of everything in it. 

I'll just throw this one in to add to the Hinson cab subject. This was a 1969 Hinson Weather Master cab sold by Robinson Alamo. 

 

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Here is the last one I grabbed a picture of from the 1903 publication. Browns IL is another 3 miles East of Albion.  This even had a picture which was probably pretty special for 1903.  

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28 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

Here is the last one I grabbed a picture of from the 1903 publication. Browns IL is another 3 miles East of Albion.  This even had a picture which was probably pretty special for 1903.  

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Interesting piece of machinery but I sure can't imagine it working well on the mower. I found that even the tractor powered mowers had a hard enough time keeping the cutter bar cleared, especially in short or leaning crops. Hope the hydraulic lift and reverse was working well on those horse powered mowers. :-)

 

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1 hour ago, Loadstar said:

Interesting piece of machinery but I sure can't imagine it working well on the mower. I found that even the tractor powered mowers had a hard enough time keeping the cutter bar cleared, especially in short or leaning crops. Hope the hydraulic lift and reverse was working well on those horse powered mowers. :-)

 

I don't think there were ever many implements like that around. The horses here had pretty poor hydraulic systems on them at the time....;)

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1 minute ago, Sledgehammer said:

I don't think there were ever many implements like that around. The horses here had pretty poor hydraulic systems on them at the time....;)

In 1947 you could still buy a ground drive , horse pulled mower from Massey Harris. 5 or 6 foot cut. Boy, that old iron "cheese grater" seat just looks painful. Maybe the cast iron seats were better but all I have seen are thin pressed steel. 

 

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23 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

In 1947 you could still buy a ground drive , horse pulled mower from Massey Harris. 5 or 6 foot cut. Boy, that old iron "cheese grater" seat just looks painful. Maybe the cast iron seats were better but all I have seen are thin pressed steel. 

 

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I'm on baby duty right now but if I get a few minutes I will see if I can grab a pic of a cast one or two I have. They look far better than the stamped ones but I've not put many hours in either type personally. 

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well, i've not put any time on a implement behind a horse, so i don't know of their hydraulic systems, but the farmall A & B had an exhaust gas lift system , maybe that's  what the horse system was.   just connect that bottom  hose------never mind

 

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1 hour ago, Fred B said:

well, i,ve not put any time on a implement behind a horse, so i don't know of their hydraulic systems, but the farmall A & B had an exhaust gas lift system , maybe that's  what the horse system was.   just connect that bottom  hose------never mind

I bet that horse would give you a lift if you plugged a hose in there...

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7 hours ago, Loadstar said:

Interesting piece of machinery but I sure can't imagine it working well on the mower. I found that even the tractor powered mowers had a hard enough time keeping the cutter bar cleared, especially in short or leaning crops. Hope the hydraulic lift and reverse was working well on those horse powered mowers. :-)

 

That pea and vine windrower was listed as an attachment on John Deere mowers up thru the #8. and possibly later, and I would think that most manufacturers had the same type of gatherer for their mowers.

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Poframer, I believe that the crop would be either dry beans (navy's) or canning peas. I know that they had peas that year because dad used to tell about mowing them with a John Deere mower behind the A. I think that they had a slat windrower on the mower blade, then use a hay loader to load the cut vines on to the truck for the trip to the W A Clark Canning plant in Caro, Michigan where the peas were threshed from the vines and the vines stacked on a lot north of the plant. By spring time that pile of pea vine silage could really stink!

 

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I am hoping that the "horse kick video" is not staged.  Have always wanted to see that happen in some of of the "so- called peaceful" flag burning demonstrations we have seen recently.

My hat is off to the police horses and their trainers- - - - - the horses are extremely calm during raucous activity.

In this case- - - - - - - looks like the horse was extremely accurate with the placement of his kick!!!!:blink:;)

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Thanks for the vacuum lift diagram Fred B- - - - - - don't think I have ever seen one.

DD

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10 hours ago, Loadstar said:

IBoy, that old iron "cheese grater" seat just looks painful. Maybe the cast iron seats were better but all I have seen are thin pressed steel. 

Here is a pic for you of a cast seat. 

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actually anson, it's exhaust pressure using standard garden hose fittings from a diverter valve mounted on the exhaust manifold.under the muffler.   

On the plus side it basically was live because it worked whenever the engine was running and you could move the lift cylinder

to different areas on the tractor.  On the negative side, as the piston came out of the cylinder, it pulled up on a cable that

ran under pulleys and through  a pipe to do its job.  I am thinking since the cable came down the side, it kind of pulled the piston plunger

sideways.  Of course the hot exhaust gas didn't help any.  The valving mechanism was very problematic.  I would think it robbed some

horse power and it's my understand that it caused some burnt valves. oh well they tried. 

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Exhaust powered lift makes more sense than vacuum- - - - - - but I have always heard of them referred to as being vacuum  powered. 

The "famous" horse Wrangler (who resided here with us for approx 10 yrs) always said that:  if someone had ever invented a vertical exhaust for horses/mules- - - - the tractor would have never been invented!!!!:ph34r::rolleyes:

 

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I windrowed many acres of oats with a John Deere No.5 and that pea and vine attachment.  You set the bar to cut up above the green stuff and go.  There is a different inside shoe that adjusts higher, and a wheel for the outer end.  9 foot bar had a wheel for the center to keep the sag out of it.  It worked very well.  We had no peas and we plowed down clover.  Alfalfa was the hay crop and was not swathed with a rake after some drying.

Ron

 

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7 hours ago, TroyDairy said:

um......thats a ghost drawn cutter there gentlemen.  Narrya ox, ass, nor Mogul in sight!

You just thought the Segway was a new idea...:)

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On 4/16/2017 at 10:54 PM, Loadstar said:

 

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One of our neighbors has a Rotaspreader, but he hasn't used it for years!

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On 4/17/2017 at 10:24 AM, Loadstar said:

In 1947 you could still buy a ground drive , horse pulled mower from Massey Harris. 5 or 6 foot cut. Boy, that old iron "cheese grater" seat just looks painful. Maybe the cast iron seats were better but all I have seen are thin pressed steel. 

 

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Two Swiss Farm Equipment manufactures still made horse drawn mowers until the end of the 50's, both made a one horse mower with a engine that drove the cutter bar!

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Here is an ad of a hay tedder manufactured by the Maschinenfabrik (Manufacturing) A Gamper in Waengi Switzerland from 1905 or so. The A Gamper company became known in later years as the Waengi Maschinenfabrik AG. which doesn't exist anymore!

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36 minutes ago, U-C said:

Two Swiss Farm Equipment manufactures still made horse drawn mowers until the end of the 50's, both made a one horse mower with a engine that drove the cutter bar!

The Amish would approve. :-)

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20 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

The Amish would approve. :-)

Wouldn't it have to burn kerosene?

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22 hours ago, Loadstar said:

The Amish would approve. :-)

That's true they would :-) The amish make forecarts with small gas engines and also with diesel engines to power their equipment there is a video on youtube were one guy that has his horses hitched to a New Holland forage harvester. Here is a picture of one of the mowers with an small gas engine manufactured by AEBI & Co. AG. Maschinenfabrik Burgdorf Switzerland. The company adverticed them as "you can mowe with this mower more than with a two horse grounddrive mower!" I've scant this picture from the front cover of a swiss magazine that doesn't exist anymore.

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