dale560 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Minneapolis was a very popular tractor down here years ago. A few people still using them around their yards yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Here is a front cover of a brochure I have from the early 50's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred B Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 U-C i collect MM, and others, it looks like your A-O has a wisconsin 4 cyl air cooled for power ?, although  i see 2 filler caps on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Fred B said: U-C i collect MM, and others, it looks like your A-O has a wisconsin 4 cyl air cooled for power ?, although  i see 2 filler caps on top. That is a 4 cylinder air cooled Wisconsin engine, changed over so it can run on Kerosene fuel. When this model was made they had a 2 cylinder and a 4 cylinder Wisconsin gasoline model, and a kerosene model and a 2 cylinder Hatz diesel model. Later models only used the MWM air cooled diesels. -Urs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 All Alpina Oekonom tractor models had a front axle suspension. From 1952 to 1963, 1230 Alpina Oekonom tractors were made by C. Hoegger & Cie. AG in Gossau Switzerland this company made butcher tools and they are now owned by an American company. The C. Hoegger & Cie company bought the production rights for the Oekonom tractors from the Hans Bodmer AG. in Switzerland in 1951. The Hans Bodmer company started making the Oekonom tractors in late 1949 to 1951 and made about 170 tractors. Oekonom is the german word for Economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh from CA Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh from CA Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 The first photo is all fruehauf and the second Is white. I also have lots of gmc and others! Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightninboy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 What's the 12-cylinder engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/27/2017 at 8:06 PM, U-C said: That is a 4 cylinder air cooled Wisconsin engine, changed over so it can run on Kerosene fuel. When this model was made they had a 2 cylinder and a 4 cylinder Wisconsin gasoline model, and a kerosene model and a 2 cylinder Hatz diesel model. Later models only used the MWM air cooled diesels. -Urs I noticed that too and thought of the Wisconsin V4 engine. I don't know if Massey ever put one of those in their tractors but I recall seeing one for sale online years ago, might have been a model 33, and it had the Wisconsin V4 engine. It would make a unique little yard tractor with that odd sounding air cooled V4.. This big old one cylinder Field Marshall was pretty unique as well. I don't know how many they sold but we had a dealer here in Sask. (Kern Farm Equipment). As seen in this 1952 ad. I wonder how long it ran on that tank of diesel fuel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017  Maybe a farmer repowered his Massey Harris with that V4 Wisconsin engine. I have seen a film from the 70's made by the National Film Board of Canada called We're Here to Stay https://www.nfb.ca/film/were_here_to_stay/ The farmers in that video are using a CCIL Swather that has a Wisconsin engine. I think that Field Marshall could maybe run a whole day without refueling. Where there any Lanz Bulldog tractors sold in your area or in Saskatchewan in general? Here are the different engine sizes for the Alpina Oekonom tractors:    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 16 hours ago, U-C said:  Maybe a farmer repowered his Massey Harris with that V4 Wisconsin engine. I have seen a film from the 70's made by the National Film Board of Canada called We're Here to Stay https://www.nfb.ca/film/were_here_to_stay/ The farmers in that video are using a CCIL Swather that has a Wisconsin engine. I think that Field Marshall could maybe run a whole day without refueling. Where there any Lanz Bulldog tractors sold in your area or in Saskatchewan in general?      I know that video and I know some of  the guys that were in it as the location is not far from me. Wisconsin engines were the first choice for most of the early swathers sold here. As well as a few small combines such as the Case model A that my dad bought in the late 1940s. I don't think they sold many Field Marshall/Lanz type tractors around here. I do recall seeing a couple at a farm auction about 30 some years ago Here is another brand we never saw many of. A 1953 David Brown Cropmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Ralph: They were in the east. We had them in Ontario and Quebec but I think it was the smaller model. I remember as a kid seeing them at the plowing match on our farm in 1953. IH had tractors that would have competed with them price wise but they were never imported into Canada. Certainly the Farmall 450, 460, and 560 were not competitive price wise. The B450 was competitive price wise with the Ford Super Major, Nuffield 4/60, and the David Brown but was never imported into Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 If my info is right David Brown made tractors for Oliver. I think it was the Oliver model 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Loadstar said: I know that video and I know some of  the guys that were in it as the location is not far from me. Wisconsin engines were the first choice for most of the early swathers sold here. As well as a few small combines such as the Case model A that my dad bought in the late 1940s. I don't think they sold many Field Marshall/Lanz type tractors around here. I do recall seeing a couple at a farm auction about 30 some years ago Here is another brand we never saw many of. A 1953 David Brown Cropmaster. Ralph: Does anyone of does guys still farm, that where in that Film? Lanz tractors were also sold here in Manitoba, someone just had a auction sale south of me and they had a Lanz. -Urs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 34 minutes ago, George 2 said: Ralph: They were in the east. We had them in Ontario and Quebec but I think it was the smaller model. I remember as a kid seeing them at the plowing match on our farm in 1953. IH had tractors that would have competed with them price wise but they were never imported into Canada. Certainly the Farmall 450, 460, and 560 were not competitive price wise. The B450 was competitive price wise with the Ford Super Major, Nuffield 4/60, and the David Brown but was never imported into Canada. I have an IH McCormick B 414. It is a "matchbox toy" that I got for Christmas many years ago. I don't know if any of the real ones made it here or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 27 minutes ago, U-C said: Ralph: Does anyone of does guys still farm, that where in that Film? -Urs If memory serves me only two of the men in that Ag Co-op are still living. https://www.nfb.ca/film/were_here_to_stay/ We used to see a few of these (and newer model) Fordson Majors which were a British import and fairly successful here I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Loadstar said: If memory serves me only two of the men in that Ag Co-op are still living. https://www.nfb.ca/film/were_here_to_stay/ We used to see a few of these (and newer model) Fordson Majors which were a British import and fairly successful here I think That is a real nice tractor, our New Holland dealer had one for many years in front of their shop. Here is an ad (or frontcover of a Brochure) of AEBI's first Motor Mower the AM 50:  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The Motor Mower were also used for other jobs like: tedding and raking hay, plowing, pulling a wagon, and etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Loadstar said: I have an IH McCormick B 414. It is a "matchbox toy" that I got for Christmas many years ago. I don't know if any of the real ones made it here or not. There were thousands of the smaller B414's sold in eastern Canada, BC, and the USA. The big B450 was only sold in the southeastern USA and only included the Farmall model. The standard B450 was not sold in Canada although a few came here with their owners when they immigrated to Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I thought of you @Loadstar& you other canucks when I stumbled upon this nice sized ad from Canada. Â Looks to me that a C is on pulling duty. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 2 hours ago, redneckchevy9 said: I thought of you @Loadstar& you other canucks when I stumbled upon this nice sized ad from Canada.  Looks to me that a C is on pulling duty.    I recognize that combine ad. It might even be one I posted here some time ago as it sure looks like the Country Guide style ads. I also have one showing a very small self propelled IH combine with Wisconsin V4 power. This Lincoln welder ad shows one of their welders with a Wisconsin V4 under the hood in 1950. They were a popular choice for portable DC welders as I remember.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckchevy9 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 This is an interesting Lincoln ad also... apparently arc welding was THE thing back on those days  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Here is an ad of the Front Binder for the Rapid one axle tractors: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Ralph, This is an old Case cross motor tractor ad, with a new advertisement at the top. Case will be 175 years old this year. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-C Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said: Ralph, This is an old Case cross motor tractor ad, with a new advertisement at the top. Case will be 175 years old this year. Gary That is a cool ad, Gary Have you seen this video on youtube: -Urs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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