Vintage Ads

[Big Bud guy]

Here is the 106 and 96 from my 1968 JD Modern Farming.  The 106 came out in 1967 and by the fall of 1968 both the 106 and 96 were replaced by the 6601. 

[Loadstar]

14 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

Here is the 106 and 96 from my 1968 JD Modern Farming.  The 106 came out in 1967 and by the fall of 1968 both the 106 and 96 were replaced by the 6601. 

 

Nice ads. So for a brief time JD did make a pull type version of their biggest available sp (the 105). Once the 6601 came out it was the little brother as JD had the big 7700 self propelled version by then. It was just a matter of time before they also offered a 7701 pull type. 

I saw a guy towing a 6601 behind a one ton duramax on the highway a few years back. 

If you are looking for a real nice 9501 there is one coming up at a farm auction this summer. Those were rare. http://www.kramerauction.com/auctions/equipment/displaysale_v2.php?AuctionID=1343  

 

[M turbo]

2 hours ago, Loadstar said:

Nice ads. So for a brief time JD did make a pull type version of their biggest available sp (the 105). Once the 6601 came out it was the little brother as JD had the big 7700 self propelled version by then. It was just a matter of time before they also offered a 7701 pull type.

I saw a guy towing a 6601 behind a one ton duramax on the highway a few years back.

If you are looking for a real nice 9501 there is one coming up at a farm auction this summer. Those were rare. http://www.kramerauction.com/auctions/equipment/displaysale_v2.php?AuctionID=1343 

 

I'd be interested I the m500 and f150....

[Big Bud guy]

4 hours ago, Loadstar said:

Nice ads. So for a brief time JD did make a pull type version of their biggest available sp (the 105). Once the 6601 came out it was the little brother as JD had the big 7700 self propelled version by then. It was just a matter of time before they also offered a 7701 pull type. 

I saw a guy towing a 6601 behind a one ton duramax on the highway a few years back. 

If you are looking for a real nice 9501 there is one coming up at a farm auction this summer. Those were rare. http://www.kramerauction.com/auctions/equipment/displaysale_v2.php?AuctionID=1343  

I like one of those too just for a conversation piece.  Only crop I could use it in is canola but we are trending towards straight cut canola now.  You should bid on it.  You would have rare piece and supposedly superior combine. 

[Loadstar]

15 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

I like one of those too just for a conversation piece.  Only crop I could use it in is canola but we are trending towards straight cut canola now.  You should bid on it.  You would have rare piece and supposedly superior combine. 

If I knew it would put flax through without straw wrapping, plugging and smoking, I might just do that. But seriously I don't think they are much different internally than my 7721.

On an unrelated note, yesterday I came across this pic I have from the 1986 Farm Progress show in Regina Sask. That is me standing by a Big Bud that was on display. 

[Big Bud guy]

32 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

If I knew it would put flax through without straw wrapping, plugging and smoking, I might just do that. But seriously I don't think they are much different internally than my 7721.

On an unrelated note, yesterday I came across this pic I have from the 1986 Farm Progress show in Regina Sask. That is me standing by a Big Bud that was on display. 

 

That's neat.  That's a Series 4 and they only built 21 of them.  My opinion they were the best looking Buds and course the peak of the design.  They used a 12 speed powershift tranny similar to what the CIH red Steigers used.  They were built after Big Bud went bankrupt and Meissner's the next door IH dealer took over.  On the combines there is actually quite a bit difference between the two combines.  The cylinder is bigger diameter by 4 inches, concave wraps around further, different straw walkers, completely different shoe, and they did away with the bed augers and went with a grain pan.  We ran a 8820 and 9600 together for many years.  Both combines the same separator width but the 9600 has just a little bit more capacity.  However, I always felt the 8820 did a better job. 

[Loadstar]

49 minutes ago, Big Bud guy said:

That's neat.  That's a Series 4 and they only built 21 of them.  My opinion they were the best looking Buds and course the peak of the design.  They used a 12 speed powershift tranny similar to what the CIH red Steigers used.  They were built after Big Bud went bankrupt and Meissner's the next door IH dealer took over.  On the combines there is actually quite a bit difference between the two combines.  The cylinder is bigger diameter by 4 inches, concave wraps around further, different straw walkers, completely different shoe, and they did away with the bed augers and went with a grain pan.  We ran a 8820 and 9600 together for many years.  Both combines the same separator width but the 9600 has just a little bit more capacity.  However, I always felt the 8820 did a better job. 

I figured you might know something about that Big Bud in the photo. I don't know if they sold any in Sask.  but this was the only one I ever saw. 

If the maximizer combines got rid of those augers under the walkers it would be one less place for flax straw to wrap. Mine was showing signs of wrapping on one auger. Not to the point of plugging but just one more place to worry about. The 9600s were very popular around here and even today are regarded as a good old simple combine compared to today's plastic computer controlled nightmare machines. 

These old "highboys" were also very popular. From 1957. 

[Delta Dirt]

Where was the Big Bud manufactured?

 Saw a hand full down this way- - - - - but never knew much about them other than advertising from out West.

DD

[dale560]

21 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

I figured you might know something about that Big Bud in the photo. I don't know if they sold any in Sask.  but this was the only one I ever saw. 

If the maximizer combines got rid of those augers under the walkers it would be one less place for flax straw to wrap. Mine was showing signs of wrapping on one auger. Not to the point of plugging but just one more place to worry about. The 9600s were very popular around here and even today are regarded as a good old simple combine compared to today's plastic computer controlled nightmare machines. 

These old "highboys" were also very popular. From 1957. 

You will cry if you wrap those augers Ralph. We have an 8820 Titan 11 it came new out of Montana . It is a small grain combine as opposed to all the combines in here that were corn soybean machines. We never raised soybeans but the combines were set up as them for resale to the east. But the deal on a wheat machine is they run open walkers and a speeded up beater. This makes for a mess on green soybeans the straw will drop through walkers and start wrapping on those augers. Neighbors have soybean specials with hooded walkers and beater slowed they have no problem. It will make you cry when those augers plug.

[Big Bud guy]

21 minutes ago, Delta Dirt said:

Where was the Big Bud manufactured?

 Saw a hand full down this way- - - - - but never knew much about them other than advertising from out West.

DD

Havre MT.  About 120 miles from me.

[Big Bud guy]

49 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

I figured you might know something about that Big Bud in the photo. I don't know if they sold any in Sask.  but this was the only one I ever saw. 

If the maximizer combines got rid of those augers under the walkers it would be one less place for flax straw to wrap. Mine was showing signs of wrapping on one auger. Not to the point of plugging but just one more place to worry about. The 9600s were very popular around here and even today are regarded as a good old simple combine compared to today's plastic computer controlled nightmare machines. 

These old "highboys" were also very popular. From 1957. 

 

I kinda forgot and lied about the augers a little.  They still used augers from under the concave to the shoe similar to your Axial Flow.  But they still used a grain pan from the back to the front of shoe.  There used to be a lot of 9600s around here and were regarded as good combines.  But this last run up in prices and the farm economy we had a few years ago allowed guys to finally trade them off for used STS combines.  I have one neighbor that went from a 7700 to a 9600 to a 9750 STS in 5 years.  I only know of two around now although there could be more I'm not aware of.  One is a 1989 model and still used by the same guys who bought it new.  It was the first 9600 sold in the area and they traded in a 7720 and 105.  We traded ours off in 1997 for a new CTS II.  That's a good ad BTW, same year as my 55. 

[Sledgehammer]

Gleaner F2/K2 add. Not sure the year. 

The monitor system was called "Tattletale" and there were 3 different versions. #2 and #3 were optional. I found that interesting. When I was in school a someone tattling on you was a bad thing...

[dale560]

20 minutes ago, Sledgehammer said:

Gleaner F2/K2 add. Not sure the year. 

The monitor system was called "Tattletale" and there were 3 different versions. #2 and #3 were optional. I found that interesting. When I was in school a someone tattling on you was a bad thing...

Dad  had an F gas my moms dad bought new. He used that combine from 72 to 79 he traded it for a diesel 815. His just ran a pickup head was used just for swathed small grains but he ran that combine through a lot of acres. They were good simple machines.

[db1486]

18 hours ago, Big Bud guy said:

There is about a 2" difference in the width between the two and 1,300 square difference in separation capacity.  For some reason JD like to make only their 2nd biggest combine into a pull type more often then not.  JD did make a 7701 but only for about a year.  I liked to have a 6601 some day but don't know what I would do with it or how I would get it home. 

It doesn't seem like a big difference but it is. I run both of them with the 1486. With the 914 I can take a 24.5' wheat swath at low 2 or 3 unless it's a real nice crop then I might be down to low 1. With the 6601 I would be lucky to go low 2 on a 20' swath. Most of the time I'd be in low 1. The deere wouldn't chew through canola swaths like the 914 either. They got a poorer header auger that plugs way too easy.

[Big Bud guy]

8 minutes ago, db1486 said:

It doesn't seem like a big difference but it is. I run both of them with the 1486. With the 914 I can take a 24.5' wheat swath at low 2 or 3 unless it's a real nice crop then I might be down to low 1. With the 6601 I would be lucky to go low 2 on a 20' swath. Most of the time I'd be in low 1. The deere wouldn't chew through canola swaths like the 914 either. They got a poorer header auger that plugs way too easy.

I wasn't doubting you.  I was pointing out the 914 should walk over a 6601 because it is the bigger combine.

[db1486]

1 hour ago, Big Bud guy said:

I wasn't doubting you.  I was pointing out the 914 should walk over a 6601 because it is the bigger combine.

I didn't think you were. I guess I didn't realize that there was as much difference as there is. But I know alot of guys around here used to say the deere would keep up with the 914.  I'd like to compare it to a 7701 but I've only seen 2 of them. That should be a pretty even match I would think.

The 914 is a decent size combine but when we got the 1482, wow what a difference lol. That thing will walk circles around the 914.

[Big Bud guy]

49 minutes ago, db1486 said:

I didn't think you were. I guess I didn't realize that there was as much difference as there is. But I know alot of guys around here used to say the deere would keep up with the 914.  I'd like to compare it to a 7701 but I've only seen 2 of them. That should be a pretty even match I would think.

The 914 is a decent size combine but when we got the 1482, wow what a difference lol. That thing will walk circles around the 914.

The 7700 is bigger by about only 300 square inches and 9 inches wider.  So yes probably an even match.  I'm just guessing because by that time IH was nothing around here and there 7700s everywhere so it was kinda hard to compare.  My great uncle actually preferred IH tractors but JD combines.  Farmed with a tandem WD9s, then a 1256 along with a 4100.  His combine was a JD 95 then a 7700.  Even some of the die hard IH guys didn't care for the 815/915.  The AF saved IH.

[Sledgehammer]

3 hours ago, dale560 said:

Dad  had an F gas my moms dad bought new. He used that combine from 72 to 79 he traded it for a diesel 815. His just ran a pickup head was used just for swathed small grains but he ran that combine through a lot of acres. They were good simple machines.

There were lots in our area because of a very good active dealer. Still see a few. I can say that around here you don't see any other brands of combines that age still running in the fields. 

[Loadstar]

On 3/12/2017 at 10:57 AM, Sledgehammer said:

There were lots in our area because of a very good active dealer. Still see a few. I can say that around here you don't see any other brands of combines that age still running in the fields. 

It was a long way to a Gleaner dealer here so they were not as numerous as JD , CIH and Massey.  

Now check out the sale prices on new CIH equipment here in February of 1990. $64,900 for a 7130 Magnum. It does not specify but I'm guessing that is for a 2 wheel drive tractor. 

[George 2]

41 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

It was a long way to a Gleaner dealer here so they were not as numerous as JD , CIH and Massey.  

Now check out the sale prices on new CIH equipment here in February of 1990. $64,900 for a 7130 Magnum. It does not specify but I'm guessing that is for a 2 wheel drive tractor. 

$64,900 makes sense for a 7130 2 wd equipped without 3 point hitch as they were out west . Here in the east the 7130 with 3 point and 2 wd retailed for $68,000 to $69,000 depending on how many aux valves they had. The 7120 was $8000 cheaper in the $60,000 range and the 7110 was $4000 cheaper than the 7120 and sold for $56,000. I bought a new 7110 that year with 2 valves and I paid $54,900 for it. Two years later it got traded on a 7120 with 3 valves at $61,000. They were all 3 point tractors and 3 point was about a $4000 option. Mine were all 2wd tractors. MFD was another $8000 -$9000 option on them all

[Loadstar]

On 3/13/2017 at 8:03 PM, George 2 said:

$64,900 makes sense for a 7130 2 wd equipped without 3 point hitch as they were out west . Here in the east the 7130 with 3 point and 2 wd retailed for $68,000 to $69,000 depending on how many aux valves they had. The 7120 was $8000 cheaper in the $60,000 range and the 7110 was $4000 cheaper than the 7120 and sold for $56,000. I bought a new 7110 that year with 2 valves and I paid $54,900 for it. Two years later it got traded on a 7120 with 3 valves at $61,000. They were all 3 point tractors and 3 point was about a $4000 option. Mine were all 2wd tractors. MFD was another $8000 -$9000 option on them all

Yes, another section from the same ad flyer shows a 2wd 7120 demo for 59,900. 

 

[Loadstar]

An interesting offer from Case-IH in 1985. Assured availability. 

 

[poor farmer/logger]

You guys are bringing back some bad memories with the versatile 400, Gleaner and 6601 adds lol.. Maybe not the 6601 as much but I was glad to see that old 400 versatile go to the wrecker. Ironically we ended up buying parts off of it to fix the 4400 that we bought lol.. We had a Gleaner M that was plain wore out when we were done with it. Was a bit of a death trap too. Slip clutches were welded so someone had to pry the belts loose so you could start it and then go to work. Complete hay wire I know.lol.. The 6601 wasn't actually a bad little combine and I mostly missed out on running it. The versatile was what I learnt to swath on though. Learnt to drive a standard truck and the swather the same fall. I was all of 7 years old too. Did ok on the swather till I got a brush pile and had to back it up. It had the 2 leavers, one on either side of the steering wheel for reverse and at 7 years old I didn't quite grasp the concept of backing up in a straight line yet lol..

[wheatking]

i rode on a versatile 400 but never got to run it myself it was really finicky on the steering one little move and it would spin crazy, I saw at a farm sale once there was 2 versatile 400s and they started them both up for demonstration and some one was on the before and turned the seering wheel against each other and they both quickly smashed into each other just minor dings but to be expected with them old ones haha

 

interesting with the magnums decent ones still sell for $30-40000 and they were about $60000 new, just shows how good of a tractor they really are

[Loadstar]

On 3/16/2017 at 10:36 PM, wheatking said:

i rode on a versatile 400 but never got to run it myself it was really finicky on the steering one little move and it would spin crazy, I saw at a farm sale once there was 2 versatile 400s and they started them both up for demonstration and some one was on the before and turned the seering wheel against each other and they both quickly smashed into each other just minor dings but to be expected with them old ones haha

 

Notice the auctioneers don't stop their truck in front of the swathers when they go to auction them . Just in case the driver is not familiar with the controls. 

I'm  going to throw in this other 7721  combine ad just because it is in  the file folder . It was when the 7721 was introduced to replace the 7701. (Which had been advertised as the world's biggest pull type combine).