Vintage Ads

[dale560]

When guys ran farmhands on Hs they would break the clutch housing in half. Lots of people got good changing them out in the field. Don Greytak had a drawing of your truck and farmhand in the other thread dumping into the elevator or a close copy of it.OBG

 

[Old Binder Guy]

46 minutes ago, dale560 said:

When guys ran farmhands on Hs they would break the clutch housing in half. Lots of people got good changing them out in the field. Don Greytak had a drawing of your truck and farmhand in the other thread dumping into the elevator or a close copy of it.OBG

 

Dale, I had a hired man break another borrowed (from a cousin) Farmall H in half, but it had a F-11 loader on it, not a F-10. I've never seen one break in half with a F-10, but there are lots I've never seen too. What is the "other thread", dale 560? I'm no computer geek.

This is my favorite Greytak drawing. It's one of, or his first where he did the whole background, like in a photo. It's over our dining room table.

My other favorite is this one of the WD-9 with MacDonald cab, pulling two #5 IH rod weeders. Notice he doesn't do all of the background on the olders ones. Gary

 

 

[dale560]

7 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Dale, I had a hired man break another borrowed (from a cousin) Farmall H in half, but it had a F-11 loader on it, not a F-10. I've never seen one break in half with a F-10, but there are lots I've never seen too. What is the "other thread", dale 560? I'm no computer geek.

This is my favorite Greytak drawing. It's one of, or his first where he did the whole background, like in a photo. It's over our dining room table.

My other favorite is this one of the WD-9 with MacDonald cab, pulling two #5 IH rod weeders. Notice he doesn't do all of the background on the olders ones. Gary

 

 

The vintage picture thread you have a picture of the farmhand lifting the truck. I swear the same picture was a Greytak drawing did he use your farm for a few of his pictures? They used to have an art store in the mall and always loved to look over his drawings. Dad had an A jd and farmhand to lift the trucks

[Loadstar]

A winter time ad from 1950 urging IH owners to get their tractors tuned up for spring by bringing them in to the dealer's shop. 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

Dale560,
I don't recall a picture of mine showing a Farmhand lifting a truck? 

Gary

[Fred B]

musta been the hired hand running that wd9, he's "in the fence", surely the owner wouldn't do that.    

[Old Binder Guy]

40 minutes ago, Fred B said:

musta been the hired hand running that wd9, he's "in the fence", surely the owner wouldn't do that.    

Fred B, You will never know how haunting that picture is to me. When I first saw the drawing at Whitefish, Montana about 30 years ago, it was across the street in the school yard from where we lived. They were having an "Art in the Park" event and Don Greytak brought his wares. When I was "a kid" Dad bought the 1952 WD-9 pictured below at Emil Schubert's farm auction. He had a chance to buy the MacDonald cab elsewhere, and it is escaping me as to where Dad bought it. But he wanted to appear "an up to date farmer" with a rubber tire tractor and cab, in spite of doing much of his farm work with TD-40 TracTracTors. The WD-9 wasn't useful for much, it seemed to me? But Dad had a pair of McCormick-Deering #5 Rod Weeders. They would be a nice load for a WD-9, cutting 24' of width farming. I would have been about 11 years old at that time. I was kind of a big kid. This picture shows me at the left on the steam engine at age 11.

That summer, Dad (right above) would send me to the field with his WD-9 & MacDonald cab with his pair of #5 rod weeders, paired together in a squadron hitch (as shown in Greytak's picture). Our "strips" were 1-1/4 miles long. On the south end of the strips, where you'd make two corners and head back was neighbor, Roger Long's and Dad's fence. Dad turned me loose in his WD-9 and off I went. I had to be careful all the way down (and all the way back) as there were strips of winter wheat at the rod weeder's outer edge. When I'd gotten to the end, I started my turn, trying to avoid that fence between us and the neighbor. I remember using the left wheel brake to assist in that turn, but dang it, I got the outer end of that rod weeder into the barbed wire. I know I broke a couple of fence posts and I had to untangle a chunk of broken, wrapped barbed wire from around the outer sprocket. It took me about an hour to repair my damage, and you CAN'T back up those rod weeders, you have to go forward. At the age of that young man in that Greytak picture, was about the age I was when I saw the picture at Art in the Park. I remember gasping, as I actually thought that was me in the picture. It looks exactly like I looked at that time.

If I was the "hired man," I wasn't on the payroll, but I still benefitted from being my dad's son. That picture (above our dining table) is just a deeply etched family story. Now, I've told it to you too! (And, I'm sure Dad wouldn't have hit the fence like I did?) This is a picture I have of Dad's WD-9 and MacDonald cab. 

And this is an ad for them, in keeping in line with Ralph's thread! Gary

PS: Fred B... I'm not so old or naive I didn't catch your "tongue in cheek" remark!

 

 

[dale560]

14 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Dale560,
I don't recall a picture of mine showing a Farmhand lifting a truck? 

Gary

Sorry it was big bud guy on the vintage pictures thread. I know there was a drawing of that exact picture of his. Used to be fun go to Minot go to the mall and look at dons drawings or art.

[Sledgehammer]

So last night I ran by the parents house on my way home and my Mother surprised me with a few "things" she had found.  My Great Grandparents bought an IH deep freeze new in 1955.  It is still running in the basement and has been without trouble.  Mom handed me a stack and said "I think you will like this".  It was all the original paperwork that came with the freezer.  

The other manuals are in partial color.  I don't collect literature unless it is something with family history or that I own so I have no idea how rare any of these are.  

[George 2]

3 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Fred B, You will never know how haunting that picture is to me. When I first saw the drawing at Whitefish, Montana about 30 years ago, it was across the street in the school yard from where we lived. They were having an "Art in the Park" event and Don Greytak brought his wares. When I was "a kid" Dad bought the 1952 WD-9 pictured below at Emil Schubert's farm auction. He had a chance to buy the MacDonald cab elsewhere, and it is escaping me as to where Dad bought it. But he wanted to appear "an up to date farmer" with a rubber tire tractor and cab, in spite of doing much of his farm work with TD-40 TracTracTors. The WD-9 wasn't useful for much, it seemed to me? But Dad had a pair of McCormick-Deering #5 Rod Weeders. They would be a nice load for a WD-9, cutting 24' of width farming. I would have been about 11 years old at that time. I was kind of a big kid. This picture shows me at the left on the steam engine at age 11.

That summer, Dad (right above) would send me to the field with his WD-9 & MacDonald cab with his pair of #5 rod weeders, paired together in a squadron hitch (as shown in Greytak's picture). Our "strips" were 1-1/4 miles long. On the south end of the strips, where you'd make two corners and head back was neighbor, Roger Long's and Dad's fence. Dad turned me loose in his WD-9 and off I went. I had to be careful all the way down (and all the way back) as there were strips of winter wheat at the rod weeder's outer edge. When I'd gotten to the end, I started my turn, trying to avoid that fence between us and the neighbor. I remember using the left wheel brake to assist in that turn, but dang it, I got the outer end of that rod weeder into the barbed wire. I know I broke a couple of fence posts and I had to untangle a chunk of broken, wrapped barbed wire from around the outer sprocket. It took me about an hour to repair my damage, and you CAN'T back up those rod weeders, you have to go forward. At the age of that young man in that Greytak picture, was about the age I was when I saw the picture at Art in the Park. I remember gasping, as I actually thought that was me in the picture. It looks exactly like I looked at that time.

If I was the "hired man," I wasn't on the payroll, but I still benefitted from being my dad's son. That picture (above our dining table) is just a deeply etched family story. Now, I've told it to you too! (And, I'm sure Dad wouldn't have hit the fence like I did?) This is a picture I have of Dad's WD-9 and MacDonald cab. 

And this is an ad for them, in keeping in line with Ralph's thread! Gary

PS: Fred B... I'm not so old or naive I didn't catch your "tongue in cheek" remark!

 

 

Something I found interesting. The Macdonalds who ran Macdonald Bros Aircraft limited in Winnipeg are NOT related to the Macdonalds who build the draper grain heads under the Mac Don name and also in Winnipeg. Just a useless bit of information. 

[Loadstar]

39 minutes ago, George 2 said:

Something I found interesting. The Macdonalds who ran Macdonald Bros Aircraft limited in Winnipeg are NOT related to the Macdonalds who build the draper grain heads under the Mac Don name and also in Winnipeg. Just a useless bit of information. 

Funny but I would have been willing to bet that the Macdonalds who sold tractor cabs went on to become Macdon Industries. But I guess I would have been wrong. In fact Macdon grew out of what was originally Killberry Industries and was one of the earliest names in self propelled swathers in Canada. I can remember seeing a few Killberry swathers many years ago. A little newer than this 1953 model. 

[George 2]

57 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

Funny but I would have been willing to bet that the Macdonalds who sold tractor cabs went on to become Macdon Industries. But I guess I would have been wrong. In fact Macdon grew out of what was originally Killberry Industries and was one of the earliest names in self propelled swathers in Canada. I can remember seeing a few Killberry swathers many years ago. A little newer than this 1953 model. 

The Macdonald who bought out the Kilberry's was originally from Nova Scotia and he had been a Vice President at Cockshutt Farm Equipment before moving to Winnipeg. There is a Mac Don advertising flyer that has this info on it. I got a copy last fall. 

[Loadstar]

On 1/12/2017 at 3:28 PM, George 2 said:

The Macdonald who bought out the Kilberry's was originally from Nova Scotia and he had been a Vice President at Cockshutt Farm Equipment before moving to Winnipeg. There is a Mac Don advertising flyer that has this info on it. I got a copy last fall. 

I have that same publication on the history of Macdon. Not the same ones who built tractor cabs. In fact Macdonald Bros. Industries of Manitoba were building floats for float planes prior to WWII. They branched out to maintenance and repair on aircraft used in the Commonwealth Air Training Plan. As well they manufactured wings for Anson bombers. Its an interesting story and can be read in a detailed pdf file at http://wartimecanada.ca/document/world-war-ii/company-newsletters/war-industries-manitoba

The tractor cabs they built after the war looked pretty good too. 

 

[Delta Dirt]

Lot of discussion on the Massey Ferguson combines on the forum recently.  I just came by this cut-a-way view while working on something else out of my picture file.  (don't know if this is something I scanned----------or may have copied from the forum sometime earlier)---------------anyway, it's colorful.

 

Just remember-------------M-F did not always stand for Massey Ferguson!!!!!   

Don't know about you boys up Nawth-----------but M-F is a popular word in our vocabulary down South-------------especially when you are working on a combine with the dust and chaff falling down your shirt collar.

 

DD

[Delta Dirt]

Got a cut-a-way of a Farmall M also-----------am sure I have posted this somewhere on the forum before.

 

DD

[George 2]

19 hours ago, Delta Dirt said:

Lot of discussion on the Massey Ferguson combines on the forum recently.  I just came by this cut-a-way view while working on something else out of my picture file.  (don't know if this is something I scanned----------or may have copied from the forum sometime earlier)---------------anyway, it's colorful.

 

Just remember-------------M-F did not always stand for Massey Ferguson!!!!!   

Don't know about you boys up Nawth-----------but M-F is a popular word in our vocabulary down South-------------especially when you are working on a combine with the dust and chaff falling down your shirt collar.

 

DD

M-F also stands for MacLean - Fogg a manufacturer of shouldered cap screws ( like the ones on the hood of Farmall 706 and later tractors)  Massey used them and I thought the M-F stamped on the heads was for Massey Ferguson. However, one day about 10 years ago I learned the truth about what the M-F stood for.

[Loadstar]

On 1/14/2017 at 5:35 AM, George 2 said:

M-F also stands for MacLean - Fogg a manufacturer of shouldered cap screws ( like the ones on the hood of Farmall 706 and later tractors)  Massey used them and I thought the M-F stamped on the heads was for Massey Ferguson. However, one day about 10 years ago I learned the truth about what the M-F stood for.

Very interesting. I guess we might find MF fasteners on IH and JD combines as well?

I see as of tomorrow this vintage ad thread has been running 5 years which does not seem that long ago. 

So to mark that day here is a fairly memorable ad folder I happened to pick up from JD dealer some years ago. Hardly vintage even though it might be over 25 years old. 

 

[Big Bud guy]

32 minutes ago, Loadstar said:

Very interesting. I guess we might find MF fasteners on IH and JD combines as well?

I see as of tomorrow this vintage ad thread has been running 5 years which does not seem that long ago. 

So to mark that day here is a fairly memorable ad folder I happened to pick up from JD dealer some years ago. Hardly vintage even though it might be over 25 years old. 

 

Wow.  Never saw that one.  CIH did the same thing after the JD 8000 series came out.  They took it a step further by parading around a Magnum and a JD 8000 series.  Rember seeing the truck with both tractors at the port.  

[Steve C.]

On 1/27/2012 at 3:31 PM, DOCTOR EVIL said:

I think it was around 1965 Dad had his '51 M engine rebuilt with 4" M&W Add-Power sleeves & pistons, bearings, gaskets, and all eight new valves. Think the bill came to almost $350 including the labor.

According to the inflation calculator, $350 in 1965 = $2706 now.

[Loadstar]

On 1/17/2017 at 10:05 PM, Big Bud guy said:

Wow.  Never saw that one.  CIH did the same thing after the JD 8000 series came out.  They took it a step further by parading around a Magnum and a JD 8000 series.  Rember seeing the truck with both tractors at the port.  

I thought it was unique. I think that was the only picture but will have to review it to see if there is any more to scan. I had one from Case too and it was on how to sell the smaller (David Brown) sized Cases against John Deere. 

And now something quite different. An early rock picker ad. A name I had never heard of. Built in Minnesota and advertised here in the 1950 Country Guide. That name "Minn-Kota" sounds kind of familiar but I might be confusing it with Minn-toba tractor cabs too. 

[Sledgehammer]

Minnkota is a major trolling motor manufacturer name. Not sure if there is any connection or not. 

http://www.minnkotamotors.com/

[Loadstar]

I think it was over on the vintage pictures thread we were discussing Massey combines and their sometimes troublesome rethresher system. I remembered there was a modification built here in Sask. to eliminate the re thresher and carry the returns up front to go through the main cylinder again. This brochure does not give too many details and I did a poor job of scanning apparently. But it appears to be an auger attached to carry the returns up to the front of the feeder and drop them via a rubber flex hose and cross auger into the feeder house. I think this was from about 1980. 

[dale560]

Versatile combines used augers instead of elevator chains for returns and clean grain. I suppose it was they were in the auger business anyway. They must have run those augers on the Massey with hydraulics.

[CardaleBob]

13 hours ago, dale560 said:

Versatile combines used augers instead of elevator chains for returns and clean grain. I suppose it was they were in the auger business anyway. They must have run those augers on the Massey with hydraulics.

Hi:  We put one of those augers on a 760.  It used a 90 degree gear box at the bottom end driven from the returns cross auger.  You could see the amount of returns while on the seat in the cab. CardaleBob.

[Loadstar]

1 hour ago, CardaleBob said:

Hi:  We put one of those augers on a 760.  It used a 90 degree gear box at the bottom end driven from the returns cross auger.  You could see the amount of returns while on the seat in the cab. CardaleBob.

Bob, thanks for that info on the Massey return mod. I had never actually heard from anyone that tried it or how well they worked. I wondered about the drive too but the 90 degree gearbox makes sense. I didn't know if a hydraulic drive would handle an auger in tough crops with a lot of return flow. 

Here is another view of those Massey combines featuring the very popular Melroe pickup with rubber belts. Hydraulic drive too. Appears to be picking up flax swaths. How on earth did they put flax through that paddle feeder system without wrapping straw on every paddle?