TroyDairy Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Troy, if you reread the add they are touting the strength of the box beam loaders with an added line saying the mount O matic loaders are easy to mount & remove. Ah yes you are correct. Nice set up for 1980 though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Do TV commercials count here as ads?? This don't have anything to do with ag or tractors but it is one of my favorite videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 SAME Tiger 105 Export I wonder if that Same tractor is out of the same factory as the Hesston tractor in this 1982 ad I have here.? There seems to be some resemblance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Do TV commercials count here as ads?? This don't have anything to do with ag or tractors but it is one of my favorite videos. Yes, B17s and 58 Chevy pickups will always get my attention. Nice video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Time for some Allis Chalmers advertising. This plowing scene from 1966 features a 190 XT tractor and 5 furrow plow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray54 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hesston is just a Fiat.I thing Same has a Fiat connection but may be more recent than 1982. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Speaking of Fiat, these little Cockshutts (later White) were actually Fiat tractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 We had a strong Cockshutt dealer in this area back then and they sold scads of them with loaders and MFD for the feedlots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray54 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I was just spraying with the White version of that a 1975 2-60 that even has Fiat cast into a lot of the castings.When it got to windy to spray I drove the Japanese version from 1996 or so that says Kubota M7030SU all over it discing in the vineyard .I am positive the engine block is the same casting minus the Fiat name,and the transmission case as well.The axles and final drives are completely different though. The exhaust from both tractors smells different than most diesel exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Great little tractors, those Fiat /Cockshutts sold well around here too. Just saw one sell at a farm auction this week. Here is another ad during the time of phasing out the Cockshutt, Oliver, Minneapolis names . Soon they would just be "White". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 A long day on the road for the Loadstar today. Here is an ad from 1966 featuring the IH Loadstar and a D series pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyFay Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 You know, there was some cross fertilization between IH and Oliver in the late 1930's, 1940's and 1950's. Both companies were headquartered in Chicago and the design offices were there. From time to time as workloads varied IH engineers ended up at Oliver and vice versa. Take a look at the F15 and F22 prototype tractor styling and the Oliver styling of the 66, 77, 88 series later in the 1940's. They were very close in styling. In the case of IH this enclosed styling cost too much and Raymond Lowey was called in to cheapen it down to more affordable tin work of the H and M series. Later Oliver was first with an independent PTO similar to what IH developed a few years later. The 300 and 400 Farmalls also had styling more like the Super 77 and 88. Finally IH copied Oliver with the Multi Range six cylinder engines in the 460, 560, and 660. These are just a few of the similarities and there are lots more design similarities. IH had actually discussed going to six cylinders in the Farmall F-Series replacements in the mid-1930s, in an article coming soon. IH engineering was way maxed out in the mid 1930s, same time as Oliver was bringing forward many new designs. IH had the same design of PTO in experimental tractors around 1943, original patent was from neither company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Guy: Given that they had the IPTO design that early, I can only conclude that lack of money or else market did not require it for IH not installing it by 1948. It does appear that the design focus was not on farm equipment in the late 1940's but rather on the TD24 and other industrial ventures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Notice that McCormick advertises three sources of power on their tractor. Drawbar, belt pulley, and pto. My IH 15-30 "lawn ornament" tractor has the pto. Not live though. This ad is from 1937 and shows a threshing machine powered by , I am guessing here, a W30 tractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Ralph, I've been kind of absent here lately. Not by design. I still follow along. There's always good information here. Your last ad was a good one, showing how McCormick-Deering could solve the small farmer's dilemma and he could now thresh his own grain and not have to wait for the "ring thresher" outfit to pull in. Those rings didn't always work out well. I know of one that had a 20 hp Case steam engine and I don't remember what size Case thresher? Some grain always ripened earlier and some later, but this one year one guy felt it should have been his crop being threshed, but the neighbors was being threshed when a terrible hailstorm came through, shredding the shocks (stooks!) and flattening later unripened grain still standing in his field. It ended up in a fisticuffs and the friendship and neighborliness disappeared with it. While that was 100 years ago, "Grandpa's fight" is still talked about and referred to by relatives on both sides; even though they get along. And I'll have to try to find McCormick-Deering literature for my F-12. It has a drawbar, a PTO and a belt pulley as well! This is sort of an "ad". It is a 1909 Case 15 hp steam engine postcard of mine. This is our 15 hp Case steam engine and son Mike's 22" X 38" McCormick-Deering 25 years ago this coming fall. Mike didn't own the thresher then. We were just going to go thresh with the outfit. It would be about 18 years later, Mike had the opportunity to buy the "like new" threshing machine and bring it to Helena. It now has steel wheels. The former owner traded with someone for them. This was a newspaper photographer's photo of Mike on the Case threshing that day in 1989. I thought this was a stunning photo and told him so. He made sure I got a copy of the photo. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Gary, That 1989 pic is amazing! Looks like it was taken "back in the day". thanks for posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Gary, That 1989 pic is amazing! Looks like it was taken "back in the day". thanks for posting it. Thanks twostepn2001! I've always loved that photo. If you look through the tender's wheels spokes, you can see the modern rubber tire and wheel of our water wagon that day, which was a sprayer tank. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Gary, That 1989 pic is amazing! Looks like it was taken "back in the day". thanks for posting it. Thanks twostepn2001! I've always loved that photo. If you look through the tender's wheels spokes, you can see the modern rubber tire and wheel of our water wagon that day, which was a sprayer tank. Gary I didn't notice the rubber tires Gary. With the black and white photo I could have believed it was a hundred year old photo. I see we have hit page 300 so I will mark the occasion with an ad for the IHC 300 tractor from 1956. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 As we are now getting within a few weeks (hopefully) of spring seeding, here is how it was done on some farms 50 years ago. These Cockshutt press drills were pretty much unseen in this area. Seems that IH and John Deere sold the most popular press drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ralph, Since you posted the 300 Utility ad for page 300, I had to post a picture of son Mike's (Farmall Kid) 300 Utility that is the workhorse at his place. This is another 300 Utility I had on the homestead near Lewistown, MT about 40 years ago, or so. I'd just overhauled it and put in 350 sleeves & pistons, repaired the damaged items and repainted it. It was a labor of love. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Here are a couple add`s to add to the page 300. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ray, That last ad is sure a neat one, Ray! 3,000,000th tractor was a 300 Utility. I didn't know that. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ray, That last ad is sure a neat one, Ray! 3,000,000th tractor was a 300 Utility. I didn't know that. Gary Nice ads Ray. I didn't realize IH hit 3 million by 1955. I could hardly believe they built 2 million tractors between 1948 and 1955. It could get a little confusing when you read that they also built their millionth tractor in 1948 but they were referring to Farmalls and started the count in 1928. I've posted this one before but thought it was worth bringing back for this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Well since we're talking millions, here is the 4 millionth......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Ray, That last ad is sure a neat one, Ray! 3,000,000th tractor was a 300 Utility. I didn't know that. Gary Yes Gary & it was #501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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