Loadstar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Gary, that is some strange steering control on old 999. I recall the Barney Oldfield story involving driving a high speed Allis Chalmers in an effort to promote the use of rubber tires way back in the steel wheel days. And no, those are not my photos. George, I do have the book by William Cockshutt and it is an excellent history on this Canadian company. They mention that Cockshutt acquired 27 percent of the shares of Frost and Wood in 1909. Apparently Frost and Wood goes all the way back to 1839 in Canada and is considered to be our first farm equipment manufacturer. I remember my dad talking about a Frost and Wood mower, possibly one that my grandfather owned. I think the haying and harvest machinery portrayed in this 1907 Wood company ad is a different company though as I see no mention of Frost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevingweq Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Found a few pictures of Barney Barney on the Allis Chalmers Barney in a early race car Not Barney But a speedy Allis Chalmers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Kevin & Ralph, Apparently this was Barney Oldfield on this Allis-Chalmers tractor he raced. I have no idea where I got it? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Kevin & Ralph, Apparently this was Barney Oldfield on this Allis-Chalmers tractor he raced. I have no idea where I got it? Gary Apparently Allis Chalmers worked with BF Goodrich and Firestone in an effort to sell farmers on the merits of rubber tires on their new tractors in the early thirties. The model U was used as a demonstrator. Special gearing was used to get high speeds out of the U. The original equipment 4 speed was only good for 15 mph. Barney Oldfield set a record of 64.28 mph with a U in 1933. There is a good account of the story here at http://www.narc.org.au/?p=150 I was hoping there might be something on youtube but no luck. By 1948 rubber tires were the way to go. Even as far as converting the old steel wheelers as seen in this ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Here is the picture I was thinking of. Found it right here on the forum on the IH Tractors on Montana Farm thread. http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22765&page=973 Now if I could just find the original ad and caption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Gutta Percha made farm tractor tires. News to me but here it is in an ad from 1948. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Thank Ralph, My Dad sold Gutta Perch car tires at his Ford garage, never knew they were Canadian made or even made into 1948. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevingweq Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I have never heard of Gutta Percha did they manufacture other products ?? This 1941 Gillette Tire ad shows a somewhat 'universal' ?? tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Interesting as I never heard of Gillette making tires. Just safety razors. Apparently Gutta Percha made footwear too. These work boot style overshoes were very popular here in the fifties and sixties as seen here in this Country Guide ad from 1949. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Now you got me , Ralph I am sure I wore a pair of those over shoes in the late 40`s I remember that clasp. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Now you got me , Ralph I am sure I wore a pair of those over shoes in the late 40`s I remember that clasp. Ray Ray, mine usually had the buckle and strap but I recall my dad and others wearing the type as seen in the ad. This pic from 1973 or 72 shows them in use. Also notice the "frost shield" on the back window of the 56 Chev. Don't see them anymore. Probably "ground grip Suburbanites" on the back of that Chevy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I too wore those buckle up overshoes back in the 1950's. The small sized ones for kids only had 3 buckles while the ones my father wore had 4 buckles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
664 CDN Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ray, mine usually had the buckle and strap but I recall my dad and others wearing the type as seen in the ad. This pic from 1973 or 72 shows them in use. Also notice the "frost shield" on the back window of the 56 Chev. Don't see them anymore. Probably "ground grip Suburbanites" on the back of that Chevy. Now you got me , Ralph Ralph, I sure remember the suburbanites, dad had goodrich snow tires on his 51 Ford. Had a good laugh at an auction a couple years ago when I saw a young lady had bought one of those frost shields for $1.00 I asked if she knew what it was, she replied she did not, she thought it was funny when I told her what it was used for. Some not so old people can`t even imagine a car without a heater. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevingweq Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Did the " Dollar Saver Duals " Require a special rim ?? or rim's ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevingweq Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 And an Allis Chalmers ad mentioning their speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Did the " Dollar Saver Duals " Require a special rim ?? or rim's ?? That is a unique dual tire setup for a tractor. I don't ever recall seeing dual rear wheels on a tractor til about 1970 when bigger horsepower tractors were needing more ground contact for traction. Here is another well known tire manufacturer that also branched into footwear. B.F. Goodrich "Suntogs" from a 1949 ad showing some stylish shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Cook Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 A neighbor had that dollar saver dual wheel set up on a Farmall F-12 used for cultivating listed corn just like the advertisement promotes. I assume it worked. We just used skeleton wheels. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This OK tire ad is actually from a modern (last year's) farm paper, but it features a vintage harvest scene. That DC4 Case tractor is just like the one in my shed and the K pull type Case combine is a lot like the one my uncle used for years. Typical early fifties harvest scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bud guy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 This OK tire ad is actually from a modern (last year's) farm paper, but it features a vintage harvest scene. That DC4 Case tractor is just like the one in my shed and the K pull type Case combine is a lot like the one my uncle used for years. Typical early fifties harvest scene. My neighbor had one of those combines. It was in decent shape too but it got scrapped about 4 years ago. Wished I would have bought it from him now. Case used the K for their first self propelled combine the SP 12. All they did was through on a steering wheel and seat on the K. Kind crude. It would have looked good next to my SP 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ralph, Those tire ads were neat. Kevin, I've never heard of the ones shown as duals. This was a 1968 photo of my 806, but I bought it new in 1967. Was I three years ahead of time?? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 This OK tire ad is actually from a modern (last year's) farm paper, but it features a vintage harvest scene. That DC4 Case tractor is just like the one in my shed and the K pull type Case combine is a lot like the one my uncle used for years. Typical early fifties harvest scene. My neighbor had one of those combines. It was in decent shape too but it got scrapped about 4 years ago. Wished I would have bought it from him now. Case used the K for their first self propelled combine the SP 12. All they did was through on a steering wheel and seat on the K. Kind crude. It would have looked good next to my SP 12. My uncle's K2 pull type combine is still on the farm , but 60 years of outdoor parking has not done it any favors. Gary, you were definitely on the leading edge of technology running duals back in 67. Or at least you would have been here. This is a Case combine ad from 1950 showing both the K2 pull type and the self propelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Spring time 1950. Case showing some of their seeding and tillage equipment along with the mighty LA and DC4 tractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This is not an advertisement but in searching through vintage Family Herald magazines there is a regular running feature called Juniper Junction that was usually amusing for most readers. This sample is from June of 1959. I expect it is unique to Canadian publications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George 2 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 That brings back memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loadstar Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 That brings back memories. I figured you an Ray would remember that comic strip George. First day of spring, though you would hardly know it at -2F this morning. Here is a spring time ad showing Massey tractor and seeding equipment. That number 26 one way disker would do a good job of seeding. He is likely pulling the big 15 foot model considering the 55 was the biggest tractor on offer from Massey at the time. Those are some impressive numbers. I would have a hard time seeding that many acres in 7 days even with my 28 foot air seeder. I think my acres per gallon are better than the old 55 but there is no way I can even come close to ten cents an acre fuel costs. Of course that was 1951. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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