Vintage Ads

[Grabatire]

Dad told me that at one time he bought a used cross mounted Case tractor which had angle iron lugs set at an angle. allthough they were not a V pattern, he expected it to ride smoother than the three row spade lugs on the W30. Not so. He said he never rode anything that rode so rough, and only used it to put the crop in that year then replaced it with a Farmall MD. After that the only time the Case moved was to loosen or tighten the belt on the feed grinder. I don't remember the Case but I do have a faint memory of the MD. Sure wish the Case had stuck around.

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Dad told me that at one time he bought a used cross mounted Case tractor which had angle iron lugs set at an angle. allthough they were not a V pattern, he expected it to ride smoother than the three row spade lugs on the W30. Not so. He said he never rode anything that rode so rough, and only used it to put the crop in that year then replaced it with a Farmall MD. After that the only time the Case moved was to loosen or tighten the belt on the feed grinder. I don't remember the Case but I do have a faint memory of the MD. Sure wish the Case had stuck around.

My dad used to tell the story of his Uncle Jack that bought a John Deere D in the late 1920s. For unknown reasons he chose to drive it home rather than have it shipped by rail to his home town. In those days that was about a sixty mile drive. It took him more than a day. The D only went about 5 mph top speed. Luckily the lugs had not yet been installed on the rear wheels so he was driving on smooth steel. Otherwise he could have written a book entitled "Sixty Miles on Spade Lugs".

It must have looked much like the D in this page from a 1936 Free Press Prairie Farmer newspaper.

[Kevingweq]

What a great title !! Your Uncle must have been pretty anxious to get his new 'Deere' Home , Must of had

a few regrets ( in all the right places ) the next day

Found this picture amongst my books of a very early '1892' Deere, Built by John Froehlich himself in Iowa

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Not sure how this post got duplicated or how I can delete it .

Ok, now I have lost the attachment. I better quit while I still can.

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[Big Bud guy]

Dad told me that at one time he bought a used cross mounted Case tractor which had angle iron lugs set at an angle. allthough they were not a V pattern, he expected it to ride smoother than the three row spade lugs on the W30. Not so. He said he never rode anything that rode so rough, and only used it to put the crop in that year then replaced it with a Farmall MD. After that the only time the Case moved was to loosen or tighten the belt on the feed grinder. I don't remember the Case but I do have a faint memory of the MD. Sure wish the Case had stuck around.

My dad used to tell the story of his Uncle Jack that bought a John Deere D in the late 1920s. For unknown reasons he chose to drive it home rather than have it shipped by rail to his home town. In those days that was about a sixty mile drive. It took him more than a day. The D only went about 5 mph top speed. Luckily the lugs had not yet been installed on the rear wheels so he was driving on smooth steel. Otherwise he could have written a book entitled "Sixty Miles on Spade Lugs".

It must have looked much like the D in this page from a 1936 Free Press Prairie Farmer newspaper.

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The D you talk about would look more like this one. These pics I got off the internet. The D in your ad is a late unstyled D. They look similar to a late 20s D on the outside but there are a lot of differences such as the 3 speed tranny vs the older 2 speed. The steering is different. Different crankshaft and other things. And depending on what year Uncle Jack's D was the engine would be smaller (pre 1928).

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It must have looked much like the D in this page from a 1936 Free Press Prairie Farmer newspaper.

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The D you talk about would look more like this one. These pics I got off the internet. The D in your ad is a late unstyled D. They look similar to a late 20s D on the outside but there are a lot of differences such as the 3 speed tranny vs the older 2 speed. The steering is different. Different crankshaft and other things. And depending on what year Uncle Jack's D was the engine would be smaller (pre 1928).

Actually it would have looked almost exactly like the 1936 model D . My mistake. It is a good thing the story was recorded in print to back up my faulty memory. Turns out great uncle Jack made that trip in 1935 and it was a new tractor. Price was around the $1200 mark. The story was printed in a book by Brian Rukes, "American Farm Tractors and Implement Dealers". I had sent the story to Brian exactly as my dad recalled it. Its an interesting book with plenty of stories and photos, plus a few vintage ads.

Here is one of mine, another John Deere ad from 1951. Their first diesel tractor. The model R.

[Grabatire]

July 5th, 1951, dad drove up the driveway with a brand new 'R'. I was barely 6 years old, but I remember it very well. I couldn't wait to get a ride on it, but dad had driven a traded-in Massey 55 gas, 22 miles to Red Deer, where the 'turkey track' tires that were on the R as shown in your ad, were switched out for the new set of Goodyears that dad had put on the Massey. He was tired, so a six year old kid would have to settle for using his imagination while he sat on the seat and drove that new tractor all by himself. Twenty some years later dad traded the R for an IHC 806 and us boys were glad to see it go. Like the cross-mounted Case; I wish it was still around now.

[Big Bud guy]

It must have looked much like the D in this page from a 1936 Free Press Prairie Farmer newspaper.

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The D you talk about would look more like this one. These pics I got off the internet. The D in your ad is a late unstyled D. They look similar to a late 20s D on the outside but there are a lot of differences such as the 3 speed tranny vs the older 2 speed. The steering is different. Different crankshaft and other things. And depending on what year Uncle Jack's D was the engine would be smaller (pre 1928).

Actually it would have looked almost exactly like the 1936 model D . My mistake. It is a good thing the story was recorded in print to back up my faulty memory. Turns out great uncle Jack made that trip in 1935 and it was a new tractor. Price was around the $1200 mark. The story was printed in a book by Brian Rukes, "American Farm Tractors and Implement Dealers". I had sent the story to Brian exactly as my dad recalled it. Its an interesting book with plenty of stories and photos, plus a few vintage ads.

Here is one of mine, another John Deere ad from 1951. Their first diesel tractor. The model R.

I have that book so I looked up the article you submitted. Neat. We farmed with an R. Grandpa bought it used and traded it in for a JD 5010 in 1965. He also farmed IH TD 14A at the time and owned a Farmall M for haying duty. No pics of the R but I do have some 9 mm film of him drilling wheat with it. Great grandpa who was still farming at the time used a WD9, then a 600 and then he went green with a JD 830 and traded that in for his last tractor, a 4020. Was 80 years old at the time.

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I have that book so I looked up the article you submitted. Neat. We farmed with an R. Grandpa bought it used and traded it in for a JD 5010 in 1965. He also farmed IH TD 14A at the time and owned a Farmall M for haying duty. No pics of the R but I do have some 9 mm film of him drilling wheat with it. Great grandpa who was still farming at the time used a WD9, then a 600 and then he went green with a JD 830 and traded that in for his last tractor, a 4020. Was 80 years old at the time.

That is interesting that you have the book BBG. I did not know if it sold many copies. That 9MM film of your grandpa's R would be good to look back on. Hopefully you can digitize it someday and share it with others.

Grabatire , I too wish I had my grandfather's first tractor. A Rock Island Heider, I think about a 1920 model.

Here is the ad for the rubber tire adaptation for steel wheeled tractors that I had posted earlier on this page, then accidentally deleted. I actually saw an IH steel wheeler with this type rubber tread pulling at the vintage tractor pulls. I was really impressed how well that old tractor pulled. It slipped just a bit, almost stopped and then somehow found enough traction to continue on down the track. I thought I had it on my vintage tractor pull video but I must have edited it out. Time for a "second edition " I guess.

[Kevingweq]

I knew if i looked hard enough I would find this picture of a rock Island

I am not quite sure of the vintage, Though I would guesstimate late teens early twenties

[Kevingweq]

And for good measure an International ad featuring Farmalls

and my favorite the TD crawlers

[Kevingweq]

And here is one with Power units and TD's

Has anyone seen or have an ad for a U-7 power unit ?? or maybe a picture or 2

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And for good measure an International ad featuring Farmalls

and my favorite the TD crawlers

Nice ad for the TD crawlers. It reminds me of Old Binder Guy's avatar photo somewhat.

And you have that Rock Island Heider picture pretty close too. I actually still have a few pieces of the tractor here including the brass specification plate and the operator's manual. I have a scan of the operators manual cover somewhere. Here is the only photo I have of the Heider taken around 1942.

[George 2]

Ralph and others: Does anyone have any photos of the Pioneer 30 and 45 tractors? They had a United States address of Winona, Minnesota and a Canadian address of Calgary, Alberta. These tractors were built around the 1920 period.

[664 CDN]

George, if you have a copy of C.H. Wendels book Encyclopedia of American Farm tractors the Pioneer tractors are covered on page 226 & 227.

If not I could try to scan the pages for you.

Ray

[George 2]

Ray: I have this book and other than it and one or two other pictures of them, that is all I ever seen. I was wondering if anyone in the west has any other pictures of them or experience with them. Personally, I think they were a bit ahead of their time with axially mounted engines and the reduction gearing they used. I am just interested in seeing more photos of them. I also think that the Illinois (Imperial) Super Drive that Freiburgers have was a bit ahead of it's time for a 1918 tractor. I enjoyed getting a good look at it's layout at Paisley last year. After all the McCormick Deering 15-30 didn't really show up here until about late 1922 according to an old timer I talked to about 40 years ago at Blyth.

[Kevingweq]

I found this picture of a "Pioneer" But no reference as to model or year other than 'special'

[George 2]

That was the small version of a Pioneer. Thanks

[Kevingweq]

Here is a 2 page ad for the " Dual Stack " TD 18

[Old Binder Guy]

And here is one with Power units and TD's

Has any seen or have an ad for a U-7 power unit ?? or maybe a picture or 2

Kevin,

I always hate to look like the dumb guy, but I've never heard of a U-7 power unit, so I had to check out Chuck Wendel's 150 years of International Harvester to find out that it is the same engine as used on the F-20 and the T-20.

That TD-18 you posted is definitely an artist's rendition. One exhaust pipe tells me that. And how that is the same "drawing" (cut) as in Wendel's book of the illusive TD-65! The side curtains have less louvers, there are no exhaust pipes whatsoever and the air cleaner bonnet are different. Otherwise they are the same. And I agree with Chuck, IH never built one for the market. The TD-65 had basically the same sleeves and pistons as a TD-40, except there are two more of each. I don't know why they speculated on the "65" when I'd have gone "60", but I wasn't even born, so I didn't get to vote!

Gary

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Ray: I have this book and other than it and one or two other pictures of them, that is all I ever seen. I was wondering if anyone in the west has any other pictures of them or experience with them. Personally, I think they were a bit ahead of their time with axially mounted engines and the reduction gearing they used. I am just interested in seeing more photos of them. I also think that the Illinois (Imperial) Super Drive that Freiburgers have was a bit ahead of it's time for a 1918 tractor. I enjoyed getting a good look at it's layout at Paisley last year. After all the McCormick Deering 15-30 didn't really show up here until about late 1922 according to an old timer I talked to about 40 years ago at Blyth.

I seem to recall posting a picture of a Pioneer tractor on the IH Tractor on Montana farm thread a while back but it would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I think it was a borrowed picture, not one of my own.

Following in Kevin's crawler tracks, here is a different type of track made to turn your little Ford or Ferguson tractor into a snowmobile. From the company that brought you the "Ski Doo", here is a set of half tracks from Bombardier in 1951.

[Old Binder Guy]

I found this picture of a "Pioneer" But no reference as to model or year other than 'special'

Kevin.

I've not seen a Pioneer like the one you've posted either, I'd thought the Pioneer you posted was like this Emerson-Brantingham I just posted. This beautiful tractor was in northwest Montana. This one belonged to my friend Dennis Black, who used to bring it to our show at Kalispell, Montana.

This is a 30-60 Pioneer Tractor at Rollag, Minnesota. Gary

[Old Binder Guy]

Here is a 2 page ad for the " Dual Stack " TD 18.

Kevin,

Seeing that old TD-18 dozing sure brought back memories for this old farm boy. This was me about 35 years ago on my TD-18A 181 Series.

Here's an ad for TD-18s and a TD-14 single stack out in the background from Life Magazine.

Here's another TD-18 Ad depicting the landing invasion with this Marine's version of the TD-18. There is one of these in the Mehmke Museum near Great Falls, Montana. Gary

[George 2]

Old Binder Guy: Your second photo is what I was referring to. The 30 - 60 and the larger 45 - 90 must have been quite the tractors in around 1918. Thanks very much for the photo.