Michael Halsall Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 in your headline you mention a 866. i never heard of a 866. did ih make one? Geelong, Australia made an 866 with the Neuss D358 and was quite popular out here. We didn't have a 966, though, our equivalent was the 976 with the DT358. Does anyone know why the Australian 966 was labelled a 976?? probably the same reason the oz 766 has a dt310 to the american d360 Yes, but we still called it a 766, despite the different engine in that model. The Aussie built 766 was called the "A766" in the IH instruction manuals. The Aussie built 766 replaced both the US built Farmall 666 (gear-drive) and Farmall 766 in Australia. The Aussie built 756, 766 and 686 were only available as diesels. Regards from Michael H.
Michael Halsall Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 If we are talking strictly about the US-made tractors, here is how the lineage went: 706 ------> 756 --> 766 ----> 886 --> 786 --> 3088(?) 806 ------> 856 --> 966 ----> 986 --> 3688(?) 1206 --> 1256 --> 1066 --> 1086 --> 5088(?) ------------1456 --> 1466 --> 1486 --> 5288(?) -----------------------1566 --> 1586 --> 5488(?) Very interesting chart. A question, what if anything, replaced the US 686? (Lineage 656 > 666 > 686 > ???) P.S. There was reportedly also a Farmall (?) "866" built at Saltillo, Mexico. It was reportedly an update of the US Farmall 856 (???) Regards from Michael H.
Matt Kirsch Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 When you start talking about foreign-built IH tractors, all bets are off. If you really want nonsensical model numbering, take a look at Massey Ferguson. When Dad was looking at a new 80HP tractor for the farm back around 1990, he test drove a Massey 699. The next year, they replaced the 699 with the 399. IMHO, the 784 and/or 884 "replaced" the 686. By the early 1980s, I don't think there was a whole lot of demand for row crop tractors in the 65HP range. Anything that a 686 could do, a 784 or 884 could also do, only a lot more efficiently because of the 4-cylinder diesel engine.
234-IA Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 IMHO, the 784 and/or 884 "replaced" the 686. By the early 1980s, I don't think there was a whole lot of demand for row crop tractors in the 65HP range. Anything that a 686 could do, a 784 or 884 could also do, only a lot more efficiently because of the 4-cylinder diesel engine. yes, and if someone was committed to having a 6 cyl "smaller" tractor harvester came up with the open 786s.
Michael Halsall Posted February 14, 2012 Posted February 14, 2012 in your headline you mention a 866. i never heard of a 866. did ih make one? Geelong, Australia made an 866 with the Neuss D358 and was quite popular out here. We didn't have a 966, though, our equivalent was the 976 with the DT358. Does anyone know why the Australian 966 was labelled a 976?? probably the same reason the oz 766 has a dt310 to the american d360 Yes, but we still called it a 766, despite the different engine in that model. I was slightly wrong! IH Australia made tractor engines at Geelong until at least 976, not 1973 as stated earlier. The first "Neuss" powered Auusie tractors were built alongside the later "Geelong" engined tractors. Regards from Michael H.
Michael Halsall Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 If we are talking strictly about the US-made tractors, here is how the lineage went:706 --> 756 --> 766 --> 886 --> 786 --> 3088(?) 806 --> 856 --> 966 --> 986 --> 3688(?) 1206 --> 1256 --> 1066 --> 1086 --> 5088(?) 1456 --> 1466 --> 1486 --> 5288(?) 1566 --> 1586 --> 5488(?) Every generation added a larger more powerful tractor to the lineup, and new tractors were sometimes introduced to fill a HP gap. Someone at IH marketing probably said, "866... I don't like the sound of that... Let's call it a 966. That has a ring to it." Same for the 1266... It just doesn't sound right when said out loud... Maybe I've got some wacky ideas here... Maybe not? What about the 26's? If we are talking strictly about the US-made tractors, here is how the lineage went What about the 26's? Discussion from another post on this forum- Farmall 826 Gear Drive was replaced by the 766 Farmall 826 Hydro was replaced by the 966 Hydro Farmall 1026 Hydro was replaced by 1066 Hydro Regards from Michael H
fastcars63 Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 Wasn't the 826 a cross between a 756 and a 856. Can't remember the details but recall something of the sort in my slow memory. Was built to compete with the cross over of the 4000 john Deere which I thought was a 3020 and 4020
ryan wegman Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 When you start talking about foreign-built IH tractors, all bets are off. If you really want nonsensical model numbering, take a look at Massey Ferguson. When Dad was looking at a new 80HP tractor for the farm back around 1990, he test drove a Massey 699. The next year, they replaced the 699 with the 399. IMHO, the 784 and/or 884 "replaced" the 686. By the early 1980s, I don't think there was a whole lot of demand for row crop tractors in the 65HP range. Anything that a 686 could do, a 784 or 884 could also do, only a lot more efficiently because of the 4-cylinder diesel engine. the replacement of the 686 with the 784 and 884 was a joke. the 686 is a powerhouse compared to the 84 series. grandpa had an 884 and a 686. he said the 884 couldn't pull itself, rode rough because of short wheelbase. always had a hot transmission between your legs, among other complaints. need less to say the 686 is still here and the 884 was only on the farm for a short time.
Eason Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 In late 1969 the 756 diesel was dropped and the 826 diesel took it's place. There was never a 826 gas gear drive made,only diesel and only a handful of 826 gas hydros. The 826 gear drive was replaced by the 766. Eason
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