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Happy New Year everyone!!

I hope the new year brings us all health and a wealth of old photos 

Run across this one on FB

1914 Mack Chain drive 

Now the question is what kind of tank and whose soldiers are those?

 

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22 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Happy New Year everyone!!

I hope the new year brings us all health and a wealth of old photos 

Run across this one on FB

1914 Mack Chain drive 

Now the question is what kind of tank and whose soldiers are those?

 

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Jeeper61, I could be comparing apples to oranges, but I'm betting that is some variation of an early Ford 3-ton tank like this one at Fort Knox, KY. My bunk buddy from Lewistown was posing with it for my camera. The later ones had a different turret and rail system. 

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This is a Ford 3 Ton tank back in the day of WWI.

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Henry Ford put two Model T Ford engines in them, apparently one for each track?  Gary🤔

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I was watching an auction at "Ederville" in North Carolina. This IH 4166 was at $1,650. 

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I think I got this on Facebook, and not HERE! An IH Farmall C planting cotton.

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An International Truck and a Ford Truck of the mid-1930s are hauling gravel from a steam shovel.

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A Fordson thought to be in Australia is demonstrating a rototiller of sorts.

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An 8-16 Avery gas tractor is pulling a hayrack with a hay loader behind.

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A later model of 40-70 Flour City gas tractor.

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A Model TT Ford dairy delivery van of ca 1923.

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A super photo of a Ford Dealer in Model T days.  Gary😉

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I sure don't know anything, so I'm going to post some photos from Facebook.

Advertisement and cut-away of a 2+2 IH tractor, or ant eater as I used to call them.

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The new IH 560 five plow tractor literature.

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1,000 pounds of Land-O-Lakes butter sculpture, "A Table For All!"

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Two men on their Indian motorcycle in North Dakota. They may not go anywhere this way though?

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A hard rubber tire truck that Roger can likely identify, set up to plow snow.

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A team of horses pulling a bobsled with a Baker Monitor upright gas engine on board.

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A Heisler "V-2" logging locomotive taking on make up water at a water hole along the route. This isn't always a great idea, but was done a bunch.

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This mud buildup in the bottom of the boiler is a situation created by taking muddy water into the boiler over the years. It should be cleaned out frequently, but that obviously didn't happen here.

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The threshing crew appears to be eating dinner while the 20 hp Reeves double simple engine simmers. I like the lady pouring coffee!

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A JI Case center crank return flue engine is hitched up to the (Agitator??) hand feed, slat stacker threshing machine at the farmstead.  The whole crew and owner's family are posing.

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A Frick engine is belted backwards to a rock crusher, I think?

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Two 110 hp Case engines and a 32 hp Case, plus a 40 or 33 hp Gaar Scott engine on the far end, up in Canada.

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A cute little Gaar Scott engine, likely a 13 hp, is headed for harvest of corn?? (I'm not from corn country.)

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Roger..... Is this an "Ideal Pull" Rumely on this flatcar?

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Last, but not least. A field full of John Deere Combines making fast work of someone's harvest. That must be fun trying to empty the hoppers of that many combines?  Gary🤔

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On 1/5/2024 at 9:05 PM, Old Binder Guy said:

I was watching an auction at "Ederville" in North Carolina. This IH 4166 was at $1,650. 

IH4166Ederville1650bidauction.thumb.jpeg.f9ac308f9531e8d492eb01bf7eb07f3d.jpeg

I think I got this on Facebook, and not HERE! An IH Farmall C planting cotton.

IHFarmallCtractorwithaforward-mountedcottonplantertoworkinafield.jpg.6896bb57509abbf6c29c3a7cb14a5582.jpg

An International Truck and a Ford Truck of the mid-1930s are hauling gravel from a steam shovel.

FordandInternationalTruckshaulinggravelfromsteamshovelDavidFullerIH.jpg.9fd7f8e5be625bb2420e0767b7216398.jpg

A Fordson thought to be in Australia is demonstrating a rototiller of sorts.

FordsondemonstratingaHowardRotovatortypeoftillerlikelyinAustraliaDavidFullerIH.jpg.b569c1f22077450d06dde43093bc02ed.jpg

An 8-16 Avery gas tractor is pulling a hayrack with a hay loader behind.

8-16AverygastractorpullinghayrackDavidFullerIH.jpg.6379714afa91e004bfb3f6fc47d32605.jpg

A later model of 40-70 Flour City gas tractor.

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A Model TT Ford dairy delivery van of ca 1923.

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A super photo of a Ford Dealer in Model T days.  Gary😉

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Konrad von Meyenburg a German born but raised and educated in Switzerland invented the Rototiller in Basel Switzerland, his company which he founded in 1911 build prototypes SP's and also licenced other companies with his invention, one company was Allis Chalmers. One of his friends and partners bought a licence to build smaller units for gardens which was August Grunder a Swiss. And Grunder sublicenced Simar which where sold in the States and the Rototiller inc imported them first then build the simar machines similar and etc. 

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Simar or at the time still known as La Precision it had a 25 hp 4 cylinder engine with a 3 speed forward and a single reverse

Simar made mainly Rototillers but with attachements for there larger models like mower, plows and etc and they did try to get into the tractor market making many prototypes from the 30s well into the early 50s with the idea that the lifting system was done with dipping the engine, in the end only 160 tractors would be manufactured and sold

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Production model in video

 

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The Most manufactured Simar the 56A

over 5900 where made

old Demo movie for Simar

 

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I saw this photo on FB today and thought about you, Gary. 

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I've heard you talk about the Helena here before, and the fact that she's "iced up" gave me pause. According to the blurb accompanying the photo, this was taken near Yankton, SD. No year was given, unfortunately. Could this possibly have been when your Grandpa Jager was working for Power Brothers? 

Mac

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5 hours ago, MacAR said:

I saw this photo on FB today and thought about you, Gary. 

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I've heard you talk about the Helena here before, and the fact that she's "iced up" gave me pause. According to the blurb accompanying the photo, this was taken near Yankton, SD. No year was given, unfortunately. Could this possibly have been when your Grandpa Jager was working for Power Brothers? 

Mac

Mac, I found the same photo above from the Overholzer Museum in Fort Benton, Montana (The world's innermost port) on the South Dakota site. It listed the years of the TC Power Block P, Helena as 1878 through 1891.

Naturally when I found the Helena on their site I had to bloviate about Grandpa Jäger and his affiliation with TC Power's steamboat Benton. This is what I posted:

My Grandpa Frank Jäger worked on TC Power's Benton steamboat packet from 1874 through 1876 from St. Louis to Fort Benton. He was a "jäger" or hunter and baker on the Benton. The Helena would have made about 6 trips to Fort Benton from 1878 through 1880 while Grandpa lived in Benton and freighted for TC Power to the Montana Territory Gold camps with freight from Fort Benton, the world's innermost port. This is a photo from aboard the Helena at a "woodhawk's" landing, loading firewood.          Gary😉

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1 hour ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Mac, I found the same photo above from the Overholzer Museum in Fort Benton, Montana (The world's innermost port) on the South Dakota site. It listed the years of the TC Power Block P, Helena as 1878 through 1891.

Naturally when I found the Helena on their site I had to bloviate about Grandpa Jäger and his affiliation with TC Power's steamboat Benton. This is what I posted:

My Grandpa Frank Jäger worked on TC Power's Benton steamboat packet from 1874 through 1876 from St. Louis to Fort Benton. He was a "jäger" or hunter and baker on the Benton. The Helena would have made about 6 trips to Fort Benton from 1878 through 1880 while Grandpa lived in Benton and freighted for TC Power to the Montana Territory Gold camps with freight from Fort Benton, the world's innermost port. This is a photo from aboard the Helena at a "woodhawk's" landing, loading firewood.          Gary😉

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I guess I was close, but no cigar! Your grandpa Jager sounds like a fascinating individual, and I need to go back through your pages of wisdom and read up on him some. Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed the photo and I certainly hope it isn't as cold where you are as it is in that photograph of the Helena!

Mac

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On 1/8/2024 at 7:10 PM, MacAR said:

I guess I was close, but no cigar! Your grandpa Jager sounds like a fascinating individual, and I need to go back through your pages of wisdom and read up on him some. Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed the photo and I certainly hope it isn't as cold where you are as it is in that photograph of the Helena!

Mac

I still appreciate you posting that photo of the Helena here, Mac. I probably would have neglected posting it and it is worth viewing. You can see from the promenade deck how the ice has affected the steamboat and how resilient wood construction can be!

Isn't that cold yet, Mac, but we're predicted to have -20° this weekend.  Gary

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On 12/31/2023 at 8:46 PM, jeeper61 said:

Happy New Year everyone!!

I hope the new year brings us all health and a wealth of old photos 

Run across this one on FB

1914 Mack Chain drive 

Now the question is what kind of tank and whose soldiers are those?

 

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The tank appears to be a 6 Ton or M 1917. These were French Renaults but called M 1917 in US service. I would guess US Army for the soldiers. The guy on top with the campaign hat and the tall boots and riding pants are probably cavalry gear. 

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On 1/9/2024 at 10:49 PM, Old Binder Guy said:

Isn't that cold yet, Mac, but we're predicted to have -20° this weekend.  Gary

We're predicted to be down to zero or a bit below Sunday and Monday, for the low temperature that is. Highs in the 20's, and anywhere from 1 to 12 inches of snow (weather guessers don't really know yet).  I'll be really glad when it's over, too cold to outside other than to carry more wood in. I picked up a little tiny belt-driven hammer mill last Friday and I'd really like to grind up some corn for the chickens, but you can bet if it's 8 degrees and snowing, I won't be!

Take care,

Mac

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Snowing and blowing here. I got the truck started and headed down the road. Was kind of regretting it a time or 2. Turned around a half mile away and came home. Wind blowing snow around pretty good Storm first part of the week filled the road ditches so the wind and new snow are really drifting.  Don't think it has snowed a lot yet but the wind is making it bad. I had some vacation yet so I'm sitting at home today. Mondays predicted high is 2 below.  Temps gonna drop tonight sounds like. Be safe everybody.

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Happy New Year to everyone!

Hope it's going to be a good one, anyway.

Have a couple pics to post of the Milwaukee Road's Tunnel 16, which is a mile or two west of Sixteen & both of which are along Sixteenmile Creek in Sixteenmile Canyon.... in the Crazy Mountains. Always had a daydream of moving to the Crazy... er, um.... Sixteen, until I learned it was still inhabited. Also, they have or at least had an annual rattlesnake roundup there too. So I said forget it. Far too overpopulated for my liking. ;v)

West end....

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East end....

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Yes, the tunnel is also known as Eagle's Nest Tunnel, due to the eastern portal's location in the side of a mountain.

I'll be back with more when I get a minute. Had to add exercise to my to-do list, as there seem to be a few too many Christmas cookies hanging over my belt.

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Just about how I feel about it....

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Mike

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Apologize for the belated new years gift from Alberta, we are sending weather into MT this morning where metric and Imperial meet at -39

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13 hours ago, hardtail said:

Apologize for the belated new years gift from Alberta, we are sending weather into MT this morning where metric and Imperial meet at -39

Thanks Hardtail. I don't know how much snow we got as the wind deposited it in piles. But we're only -24° here in Tropical Helena, Montana. I noticed Lewistown is -33° though.

I went to Silver Creek yesterday and when I got home, it's about 80 feet to our mail box from where I park our car. I thought I'd frozen my skull and brain getting there in the wind chill. I'm not sure, but I think the weatherman said -65° wind chill? Darn cold no matter how you look at it.

Please don't send any more of those gifts to us from Vladimir Putin's Siberia.  Gary😁

 

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