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That’s great Gary!  Glad you got some oats in the ground.  I’m looking forward to August with my three tined bundle fork!

I’m down to my last field tomorrow, well it’s three fields on one farm for a total of 13 acres. I’m planting oats too but orchard grass also. I finished 16, 30 and 14 acre fields so far. Not a big time operator like on the other side of the state but get to feed myself farming. 

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I have a little newer JD/Van Brunt drill and pull a Dunham packer behind it. I’m short a few disks but that’s what I have. I go back and roll the side strips after I’m done planting. But I get half of it rolled behind the drill. 

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I messed with the W-4 a little and got it running. Sounded great and has good oil pressure. 

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The water pump needed to be repacked and the radiator had been bashed in at some point so in the shop it went and stripped down. 

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The shiny spot to the left of the neck needed to be soldered. I patched the hole and took “Willy” to the field pulling a 4 section harrow. Well that didn’t last long as it started to overheat. The cores are just too plugged to salvage.

Yesterday I picked up a radiator from the Charlo tractor salvage yard. I’ve yet to install it, I have the last farm to get seeded the next couple of days. I’m also going to pull the head. I think it needs a valve job, smoked a little after it warmed up but I have a head ready to swap in. A gasket set should be here tomorrow so maybe this weekend another IH tractor will be ready to go to work on a Montana farm. 

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MT Matt, I'm sure you'll be polishing the tines on that three tine bundle fork for August so those bundles will slip off a little easier!

My father in-law had a newer John Deere Van Brunt grain drill than ours, but likely older than yours. You can't see much of it, but it had steel caster wheels in front, as you can see with this photo of my wife of 60+ years sitting on her dad's WD-6 in 1948 or 1949. She never drove this tractor. But I remember her driving her dad's WD-9 in the field, summer fallowing that he traded for, when she was about an 8th grader. Of course these were IH Tractors on a Montana Farm!

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These were all very early photos on this thread of mine. So I guess it's not too soon to post them again! She sure loved "helping" her daddy. Gary😁

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@Fred B  l found this pic on FB the other day and though you might be interested in. Didn't you grow up near Taft, Texas? l remember you talking about Taft and thought you might like the pic of the pickers at the JD dealer. Think it was supposed to been taken in 1959...?  On the FB post, folks were more excited about the '56 Chevy taxi than the cotton pickers.  lol

 

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Matt, we had a drill like yours with one difference; ours had levers instead of the ground driven lifting mechanism.  Mom's brother-in-law ended up with it and Dad found a steel wheeled Van Brunt with the ground driven lift.  In between we had an Oliver Superior which with a wood bottom box.  It rotted out and Dad

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Darn, I bumped the built-in Mouse and sent an incomplete message.  I started to say that Dad built a new wooden bottom.  That drill still sits in a coulee on the farm along with a Galion pull grader and our 1949 Chevrolet truck.

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20 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

@Fred B  l found this pic on FB the other day and though you might be interested in. Didn't you grow up near Taft, Texas? l remember you talking about Taft and thought you might like the pic of the pickers at the JD dealer. Think it was supposed to been taken in 1959...?  On the FB post, folks were more excited about the '56 Chevy taxi than the cotton pickers.  lol

 

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Twostepn2001, A lineup of John Deere tractors ca 1948 at Huntsville, Texas I got off of FB yesterday on one of my sites. There was no 1955, 56, or 57 Chevys to distract anyone either.  Gary😁

PS: They probably ended up as John Deere Tractors on a Texas Farm.

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Good to hear from you Tom!  Hope you are getting around better after your fall.  I have a wooden boxed Van Brunt also but it’s only 6 feet wide.  I actually used it this spring to over-seed some grass. Still works! 

Rusty, I would love to have more packer wheels!  I think I need 4 additional wheels. I found some but the owner of the tractor parts yard wanted $75 EACH wheel!  I only paid $40 for the whole thing. I’ll run into some eventually or another gang possibly, at an auction. Going to an auction tomorrow actually, never know what might be there!

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Yesterday was a great day, I finished planting my last farm!  This place had three fields for a total of 12 acres.  It is so hilly that I rolled it separately with my A.  Hard to turn the train around on a side hill so the packer and drill got separated.

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Gary, I wasn’t as precise with hitting the end with very little oats or grass seed left in the boxes. You must have a few more years of experience at precision planting then me… 😂

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And Gary, even though the main topic of discussion is about red tractors on a Montana farm, is it ok to show a little green also?  This is as close as I can get, the oats is up in my first planted field!  Always a good feeling, maybe the crazy temps in the 80s had something to do with it. Fortunately it is raining now and expected to cool off to normal temps again.

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Matt cultipackers have went crazy around here. Enough weight in them that even scrap prices have driven them up. In fact the scrap guy around here was telling me one time he couldn't buy em any more as they were getting so high. 

I will see a single add on wing about 3 feet wide or what ever they were, for 300 to 500 it seems like. The mingle section by itself will be that or more. 

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I have a section like the green framed one above but it isn’t smooth wheeled. I’m not sure why I bought it but…. Think I gave $125 for that.

I use a smooth packer when planting grass seed. I bought a 3 foot double smooth gang section with thoughts to add onto mine but the bigger section isn’t the same size wheel. So it sits also.

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OBG since you have experience with moving houses, thought you might like this pic. Shows moving a 2 story hotel from Dimmitt, Texas to Plainview, Texas, in 1893. A distance of about 45 miles. Lots of real horsepower..lol

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9 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

OBG since you have experience with moving houses, thought you might like this pic. Shows moving a 2 story hotel from Dimmitt, Texas to Plainview, Texas, in 1893. A distance of about 45 miles. Lots of real horsepower..lol

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twostepn2001, that is one neat old photo. I can't imagine moving a building 45 miles, but apparently that was what someone wanted to do. I notice the several jerkline teamsters riding their rear horse. Thanks so much for posting it. OBG - Gary😁

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On 5/6/2023 at 9:02 PM, Old Binder Guy said:

twostepn2001, that is one neat old photo. I can't imagine moving a building 45 miles, but apparently that was what someone wanted to do.

There wasn't a reason why the hotel was moved that far. Most of the Llano Estacado region of Texas was settled starting in the 1880's so towns sprang up just about anywhere but because railroads and different ranches selling or giving away land, some towns boomed while others turned into ghost towns and eventually disappeared. So that was one reason for moving buildings. Another reason was that when the Texas legislature started laying out counties on the high plains, the county seats had to be within 15 miles of the geographical center of the county. One example of that was Old Emma, Texas was the original county seat of Crosby county. But when the county was laid out, Old Emma was outside the 15 mile limit so a new town was built named Crosbyton and the old courthouse was moved there, supposedly in the center of the county. But Plainview and Dimmitt still exist to day. l've seen pics of hotels and even courthouses being moved by huge teams of horses or mules but don't have any in my files.

Didn't mean to go into a full history lesson but l really enjoy learning about Texas history, especially in the areas where l've lived. Below is a map of the Llano Estacado. Translated it means "Staked Plains" because Spanish Trail from Santa Fe to San Antonio was marked by 'palos,' or stakes.    OK...class dismissed!!  🙂

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I don't know one darn thing. But I thought I'd better get back here before all of the old guys like me, who haven't come here due to inactivity maybe have kicked the bucket? I don't want that happening. First of all, in case a mother should happen to click onto this site, I want to wish ALL mothers a Happy Mother's Day. I stole most of my stuff from Facebook.

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Some mother's two little girls playing with a pedal airplane. 

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This was OBG (me) with my pedal airplane after WWII in December 1946. I was training to be a fighter pilot, but was no longer needed.

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My wife Sharon in the fall of 1950, her first day of school. With "The New Ford." I'd posted the black & white photo on "Old Family Photos" on Facebook and someone colored it for me.

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John Wayne with his little brother Robert.

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This woman was advertising items from their jewelry store in Valley City, North Dakota. I'd likely be trying to bid on her dress if it was up for auction?

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One of two Jeep prototypes being demonstrated in December 1940 on the steps of the U.S. Capitol.

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This must be a 1936 Ford "Semi" tractor with trailer?

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Put the Model T Ford to work for the day, back it off at night and drive into town. I'd not seen anything exactly like this one.

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I'll need Roger's help for this pea picker's motorhome. Is it a Model TT, as the brakes look larger with Rocky Mountain Brakes, but the wheels themselves are from a Model T. He's obviously kind of a handyman anyway.

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Horses pulling a hay mowing machine. I can't quite tell what that automobile is in the distance? Maybe Model T? Maybe not?

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An early Wooden spoke wheel (front and rear) Geiser Peerless model Q, freighting what might be cordwood.

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An old timer is cutting his grain crop with a very early McCormick binder. It has wooden wheels. My grandpa Yaeger had one of these also.

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Speaking of moving, I don't know if I'd have wanted to be driving the truck pulling this grain elevator over this concrete railroad viaduct in North Dakota or not?

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A Bell & Howell helicopter at a MASH base in Korea. My late, big brother Bill let me fly one of these with him years ago, ca. 1965. Montana National Guard had these for many years. They weren't much at our elevation here. Bill had me put on a flight suit and helmet. They were so touchy on the stick. One of these crashed one year at National Guard Camp at Townsend, Montana. A huge overweight officer got in with the pilot. The pilot pulled "collective" (the lever that makes a helicopter go straight up or drop straight down) and took off on the side of a mountain. It barely got airborne, but the officer's weight made it lose altitude until it crashed and burned. They burned easily when a forward crash causes the two piece (seam in the middle) gas tank break loose and hit the engine. I also had a good friend in central Montana crash a civilian model spraying tall weeds in a field that burned. It happened less than a mile from our farmland.

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A M-41 Walker Bulldog Tank like I used to drive, load and shoot in the Montana Army National Guard.

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A travelling grocery store on a 1-ton Ford truck in 1936.

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A colorized photo of a 21B Massey Harris combine emptying its grain tank.

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I just got access to this photo two days ago. It is a Milwaukee Railroad steam locomotive in Beaver Creek Valley, 2 miles west of Glengarry entering Buttermilk Curve's "horseshoe" through uncle Charley Yaeger's place.

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This is a Milwaukee Railroad double header about a mile east of Lewistown, Montana, the Judith Mountains in the distance. The photo was taken from the "highway 87 overpass." The part that fascinated me was that little spur track at right. I wish it had shown the five huge fuel tanks at that spur which was guarded during WWII with a soldier with an M1 Garrand at a little tar shack, with a yard light. Gasoline for the B-17 training air base at Lewistown used the fuel. I loved watching those B-17s exit the runway 25 flight pattern over our ranch. My brother and I always ran outside to watch and drool, as they headed for the bombing target 12 miles north of Winnett, Montana.

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The B-17 ramp at the Lewistown base during WWII, taken from the tower.

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A British "fireless" steam locomotive. They were used in hazardous situations. There were two fireless locomotives at the GNRY tie plant in northwest Montana. The creosote in the building created the explosive hazard. They used water in the boiler then fed it steam from a "mother" boiler. They would operate several hours on one charge, as the steam superheated the water in the "boiler" or water body.

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A Caterpillar D-7 is busy dozing rocks.

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This Ford Versatile Tractor was at auction in North Dakota last week.

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I can't remember if I've already posted this photo of an IH Farmall Super C, or not? I sure wanted one when I was a boy, so I could be in the field with the Farmall H and M, mowing hay like the big guys were doing. But Dad never "took" the hint.  Gary😁

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I like this.😁

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I'd forgotten to title this photo. When Dad bought the 24' John Deere chisel plow I pulled with our TD-18A, dad had the dealer throw one of these John Deere pedal tractors in for his grandkids. I wasn't married yet and he only had two boys from brother Bill's family. Randy and Ralph each put their wear and tear on the little tractor. It was "fence cornered" in Dad's shop when son Mike came along. When he was old enough to pedal it by himself, he was old enough to grab a can of red spray paint and paint it like an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm!

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Gary,l sure enjoy the variety and diversity of your "photo essays." l'm sure a lot of us have interesting stories about our lives but you are fortunate to have pictures to go along with your stories. And also like you, if it goes 3 or 4 days and nobody posts anything here, l start thinking "l hope nothing bad has happened to somebody and l haven't heard about it."

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1 hour ago, twostepn2001 said:

Gary,l sure enjoy the variety and diversity of your "photo essays." l'm sure a lot of us have interesting stories about our lives but you are fortunate to have pictures to go along with your stories. And also like you, if it goes 3 or 4 days and nobody posts anything here, l start thinking "l hope nothing bad has happened to somebody and l haven't heard about it."

twostepn2001, I've been accused of lots of things in my lifetime. Being "normal" isn't one of them!😉 Gary😁

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On 5/13/2023 at 9:35 AM, Old Binder Guy said:

twostepn2001, I've been accused of lots of things in my lifetime. Being "normal" isn't one of them!😉 Gary😁

And, if I kick my bucket list bucket somewhere along the way, I have a warning. DON'T let ROGER come here and try to let you guys think HE is normal either. He's ME on steroids! (Even if he is the quiet one.)😁😉!!

PS: But he does own a trainload of neat equipment!

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Watch it Gary . . . I check this thread every day to see what's going on and see how many "errors" there are in your postings.  I let most of them go unless you really screw something up.  smily_ROTFL.gif.e4e98585a45cbca4be55529adbe5dbbb.gif  By the way, that "Pea Pickers motor home"  you posted above is on a Model T car chassis.  The wheel base is wrong for a TT and you can tell by the rear springs plus the rear wheel hub.

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5 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

Was sneakin' around the internet earlier and saw this ad for a winch set up. Guess it would work on a Model TT...?

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Weaver MFG made all sorts of early automobile repair shop equipment. I have a 28ton Weaver mechanical shop press. Also have a cast iron stand made to hold a drill press or other early shop equipment with Weaver embossed in it. Most items they made were a dark hunter green color. Could be because Springfield IL is about 2.5hrs from here also that I have seen their items. 

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19 hours ago, Roger Byrne said:

Watch it Gary . . . I check this thread every day to see what's going on and see how many "errors" there are in your postings.  I let most of them go unless you really screw something up.  smily_ROTFL.gif.e4e98585a45cbca4be55529adbe5dbbb.gif  By the way, that "Pea Pickers motor home"  you posted above is on a Model T car chassis.  The wheel base is wrong for a TT and you can tell by the rear springs plus the rear wheel hub.

Roger! So I make "errors?" That's better than making "mistakes?" I'd sure think so. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.🙃

So did that Model T automobile have some kind of external "Rocky Mountain" brake system? (I'm trying to correct anything that may be wrong [in error] [mistaken] in my mind.)

I can tell this thread may fall into pieces, if I end up kicking my bucket list bucket. Just remember fellas, I warned you about Roger.  Gary, or OLD Binder Guy😁

 

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On 5/18/2023 at 1:57 PM, twostepn2001 said:

Was sneakin' around the internet earlier and saw this ad for a winch set up. Guess it would work on a Model TT...?

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twostepn2001, I don't know how many of these wreckers on Model TT Ford Trucks and a couple of other) are Weaver? Maybe some of them? This first one is special to me. It was the Messier Brother's Model TT Ford wrecker. Their business was about 2/3 of a block from my Grandma Hamilton's house in Lewistown, Montana.

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And keeping a tiny bit International Harvester, they also owned an IHC Six Speed Special, here trying to lift he remnants of an airplane near Lewistown.

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Not Model TT, but picking up a late 1925 Model T Fordor.

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A 1926 Model T Ford Coupe in the ditch, but not mine!

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This guy was typewriting and driving. A Model TT with a Weaver Wrecker would still do okay.

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This is too much for a Model TT. Maybe a half dozen could move it?

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I doubt a dead engineer would need a wrecker (or Handi-Wipes?) and this one would take a whole herd of Model TT's. This was in England. The engineer was backing up on the bridge to draw water for the engine. My advice when doing "hairy things" with an engine is to have one hand on the throttle and the other on the reverse lever. Then ENGAGE your "Brane!" These things only take a couple of seconds to happen. (correct, Roger?!!)   Gary☺️

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Gary, I'm glad you noticed I used the term "error" . . . I know you never make mistakes.  And yes, those are aftermarket Rocky Mountain Brakes (or possible ACs) on that Model T motorhome.  I've got a set of them on the shelf that I'll be making use of soon.

By my count, seven of the tow trucks you posted above, have Weaver Cranes.

I sure agree with you about the engine handling comment.  As an engineer, control of the machine is your job from boiler condition to the the total operation of the engine.  To me, the term ENGINEER and RESPONSIBILITY must go together . . . and yes, I'm considered to be a hard ass when it comes to steam engine operation.  

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8 hours ago, Roger Byrne said:

Gary, I'm glad you noticed I used the term "error" . . . I know you never make mistakes. 

Roger, Could you please convince my wife of that statement in italics, please?

But she doesn't read our stuff, so I should admit that I've made tons of mistakes in life. I'm no fisherman, but I can tell stories for an hour or more about "the big ones that got away."

Those outer brake linings you have... Do they use a special pedal like the "Rocky Mountain Brakes" use? Our TT doesn't have a brake band inside the tranny. It pulls rods that actuate the Rocky Mountain bands on the wheel's brake drums. I guess they are "Bennett" brakes? But they operate here at the Rocky Mountains. Gary😢

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