twostepn2001 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 l've seen a lot of things in my life but never saw a steam powered pencil sharpener!! There has to be a joke in there somewhere about wearing a camouflaged hat instead of pokey dot or stripedy one but l'll let it rest...lolĀ Maybe that cavalry or IH hat could count. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, twostepn2001 said: l've seen a lot of things in my life but never saw a steam powered pencil sharpener!! There has to be a joke in there somewhere about wearing a camouflaged hat instead of pokey dot or stripedy one but l'll let it rest...lolĀ Maybe that cavalry or IH hat could count. twostepn2001, I sure wish I could post the video of him sharpening a pencil and tootin' the whistle. You surely heard of the US Air Force's $1,200 toilet seats they installed in the B-52 bombers? I don't know what would happen if every US Army office got a steam powered pencil sharpener, what they'd run the taxpayers? Maybe another trillion in debt? Garyš 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 On 3/13/2023 at 10:24 AM, Old Binder Guy said: First of all, I don't know anything. So I'm just throwing photos here from this month's download file. This is an 1896 Morrison electric automobile. Note the headlight. This is a Tesla??? A three wheel Knox Martin truck hauling a stick. If there are hills to descend, he should have a "headache rack" I'd think? An ice bridge across the Missouri River at Bismarck, Dakota Territory, pre-1883 when the Northern Pacific Railroad had their new bridge built. An IHC truck hauls coal with a unique coal delivery box. The truck was listed as a "Model 63." I had to save this photo. It is the interior of an International 1947-49 "K-5" truck like my dad had when I was a kid. His steering wheel still exists in part on Farmall Kid's 1944 Farmall M, "Toot." I did knock the horn cup off. They're identical to the Farmall wheels then! I had to keep this photo. I should have used Adobe to remove that cell tower though. This is what over the road trucks were like when I was a boy. Unloading a McLaughlin steam engine from a railroad flatcar. It doesn't look new, so I don't know what the story is. North Dakota homesteaders harvesting their corn crop. This looks like an IH literature photo. A Farmall Super H and a small IH combine. If it was a "real" picture someone would be chewing his bottom end for driving on the windrows. Son Mike performing some mechanical work with Grandpa Lynn's Thorsen 1/2" socket set, on a McCormick-Deering #5 rod weeder. That training plus growing up on a central Montana Ranch helped him in his former occupation as a CSMS (Maintenance Shop) supervisor for Uncle Sam. Here he's sharpening his pencil with his double cylinder steam powered pencil sharpener. It was quite a shop though. I never got to see an M1 tank hoisted in the air in the shop bay, but they did that. This is an Iowa family of 12 moving from there to the Malta, Montana area for their homestead, ca 1900. A "Blackfoot" Blackfeet Indian Camp in northwest Montana ca. 1910 This was Carl Eliason and listed on Facebook as the inventor of the "snowmobile." A John Deere GP is pulling one of their Combine Harvesters. John Deere bought this design from Holt, when Holt joined Best to form Caterpillar in 1925. A 1929 Model AA Ford truck is full of grain from the combine hopper. A John Deere GP is pulling one of their 6' cut 12A combines. A photo from Facebook showing a repainted John Deere "Track Loader." This was our family's John Deere Track Loader at harvest time. They were still using this old thing in the mid 1950s. Worn out, it finally ended up as a culvert in a hillside road. I was fascinated how they used a horsepower winch to raise and lower this "overshot" hay stacker. Last but not least is this Facebook photo of how to teach a Millennial how to drive a stick shift.Ā Garyš On Facebook there are often references like above about driving stick shifts and indicating that Millennials can't steal a vehicle with a stick shift. So I always show them these photos and ask how many of THEM can drive one of these planetary transmissions that Henry Ford used in nearly every vehicle he manufactured up until 1927 with the new Model A Ford. When he finally relented to his son Edsel, and his financial investors, he did drop this transmission.Ā The "stick" is for a Columbia three speed driveline transmission that functioned like an old "Brownie" or Browning inline box used in semi-trucks behind a clutch pedal and gear shift transmission. I found with Dad and uncles; they never lost their "touch" driving these pedal shift transmissions even 25 years later. This was Uncle Audie. This was Uncle Dwight.Ā Garyš 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard_P Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I've read that many old timers, perhaps like your Uncle Dwight, that mastered driving the Model T as their first car refused to trade to a Model A because they couldn't handle that new-fangled clutch and transmission just like the Mellennials.Ā History repeats itself. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Minded Farmer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said: Ā That there is why I don't like driving the T's. They're not built for someone that's 6' 2" with size 13W boots. My A was only a little better. Then.... to get in, I had to open the driver door, sit on the seat facing out, scooch my posterior over to the other door, pull my legs in & stuff them under the steering wheel, then re-situate myself behind the wheel. Felt like a fat kid in a pedal car! Mike 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike newman Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Howard_P said: I've read that many old timers, perhaps like your Uncle Dwight, that mastered driving the Model T as their first car refused to trade to a Model A because they couldn't handle that new-fangled clutch and transmission just like the Mellennials.Ā History repeats itself. ...certainly true of my MaternalĀ Ā Grandpop.....who passed in 1949.....His transition fromĀ his blackĀ (in colour )Ā Ā Model T to a more ''modern '' transmission was fraught with constant danger......His and his extended family'sĀ Ā saving grace was the roads were suchĀ that no real speed could be attained...but I can still recall going to his home from my parents home....a distance of about forty odd miles...with several hills to contend with......in a BritishĀ Ā Austin,Ā .I believe...He would coast down any hill ....''to save petrol ''Ā and I can still recall the old Grandpop, grapplingĀ with the steering wheel...muttering away....stones hitting underneathĀ Ā the wee car...wind whistlingĀ aroundĀ the windscreenĀ Ā etcĀ Ā ...whilst GrandmaĀ bellowing at him to slow down.........so occasionally ...what passed for brakes would squealĀ Ā , plantively.......and ineffectively....... Good old days ???Ā Ā Mike 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 13 hours ago, Howard_P said: I've read that many old timers, perhaps like your Uncle Dwight, that mastered driving the Model T as their first car refused to trade to a Model A because they couldn't handle that new-fangled clutch and transmission just like the Mellennials.Ā History repeats itself. Howard, you described Grandma Hamilton to a "T"! She was my only living grandparent when I was born. I used to often go to her little house in Lewistown and visit while I waited for someone to pick me up and take me back to the ranch. I asked her, "Why don't you drive, Gramma?" She said, "I quit driving when 'Dad' (Grandpa) got rid of the Model T."Ā Garyš 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 There is a story about my paternal grandparents. He was trying to teach her to drive. She backed right in the road ditch in front of the house and refused to ever attempt driving again is my understanding. She also refused to sell the last new car granddad bought after he passed. So a 40,000m Merc Montclaire? 4 door sat in the garage until her passing in the late 1980s. I found the car a few years ago still with 40 some thousand miles on it. Thought about buying it back but the guy hemmed and hawed on me so I let it go. I saw it on facebook for sale last spring and i think it sold. Not sure where it went. Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā ļæ¼ Ā ļæ¼ Ā ļæ¼ Ā ļæ¼ Ā ļæ¼ Ā Ā 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowaboy1965 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Oops it was a 66 merc. Not that it matters much. Ā Ā Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twostepn2001 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 l don't think l could've driven a Model T with all that complication!!Ā Most complicated set of gears l ever drove was a U Model Mack with a TriPlex transmission with a Brownlite 2 speed behind it. Wouldn't pull worth a damn but when l got unloaded and headed back for another load l could pass every other truck on the road when l put her in the high hole!!Ā š You probably won't believe this, but heard a story in a truck stop across the road from JD's Gun & Pawn, Auto Parts, Pharmaceutical, Adult Gift Shop, Bait And Tackle and Discount Cigarette Outlet and official dealer for Gut Splatter Malt Liquor. This driver was saying he had a ''49 Peterworth with a 20 speed trans with a 950 hp B-S engine. Guess he meant a hopped up Briggs & Stratton (?)Ā Said he could haul a load of strawberries from Los Angeles to Honolulu in just under 12 hours. Also said something about a load of watermelons from Mississippi to Guadalajara, Mexico in under 3 hours. Might be plausible but l just never believed that part about the 950 hp BS and 20 speed transmission until l saw this on FB.....so it has to be true. Ā 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike newman Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, twostepn2001 said: l don't think l could've driven a Model T with all that complication!!Ā Most complicated set of gears l ever drove was a U Model Mack with a TriPlex transmission with a Brownlite 2 speed behind it. Wouldn't pull worth a damn but when l got unloaded and headed back for another load l could pass every other truck on the road when l put her in the high hole!!Ā š You probably won't believe this, but heard a story in a truck stop across the road from JD's Gun & Pawn, Auto Parts, Pharmaceutical, Adult Gift Shop, Bait And Tackle and Discount Cigarette Outlet and official dealer for Gut Splatter Malt Liquor. This driver was saying he had a ''49 Peterworth with a 20 speed trans with a 950 hp B-S engine. Guess he meant a hopped up Briggs & Stratton (?)Ā Said he could haul a load of strawberries from Los Angeles to Honolulu in just under 12 hours. Also said something about a load of watermelons from Mississippi to Guadalajara, Mexico in under 3 hours. Might be plausible but l just never believed that part about the 950 hp BS and 20 speed transmission until l saw this on FB.....so it has to be true. Oh dear......so many of our ''older members" seemĀ Ā to be slipping seamlessly into senility....That is not a gear shift pattern...it is some sort ofĀ Ā Democratic mathmatical impossibility...... Mike 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 21 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said: That there is why I don't like driving the T's. They're not built for someone that's 6' 2" with size 13W boots. My A was only a little better. Then.... to get in, I had to open the driver door, sit on the seat facing out, scooch my posterior over to the other door, pull my legs in & stuff them under the steering wheel, then re-situate myself behind the wheel. Felt like a fat kid in a pedal car! Mike Mike, you are very correct about shifting Model T's The 1926 & 27 with the wide hi-lo and brake pedals are easier. But Reverse is still bad. When I prepare to back either the coupe or the truck into the shop or shed, I pull the parking brake lever back until it is tight on the parking brake. Then I move the lever ahead a couple of notches, which the parking brake lever cam is just holding the transmission in neutral. Then I only need one foot for the reverse pedal. But, like you say, those wide boots don't do this situation well when needing to back up. I did find an antique mirror for the Model TT Truck which helps me backing into the shed with it. I have two vertebras in my neck fused from birth. So it is hard for me to turn my head around. Plus the tiny little rear window in the cab is so small.Ā Garyš PS: If you look through the side window and windshield of the truck in the middle photo, there's an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augercreek Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 When my Dad bought his first car in the late 20s he tried to get his Dad to drive the T. All was going good until they got in town and he tried to stop and crashed into the front of the General store in Atkin Mn. Never again did he drive! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 4 hours ago, augercreek said: When my Dad bought his first car in the late 20s he tried to get his Dad to drive the T. All was going good until they got in town and he tried to stop and crashed into the front of the General store in Atkin Mn. Never again did he drive! The morning after I got my first Model T, at age 10, Dad was watching me crank it after telling me how to hold it with fingers and pull up, but the thumb alongside my index finger and not over the crank, he had another bit of instruction. "If you see you're going to hit something and have to stop, push ANY TWO PEDALS and it will stop!" Garyš 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacAR Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 3/15/2023 at 10:54 PM, mike newman said: He would coast down any hill ....''to save petrol ''Ā I've decided everyone's grandpa did that! Mine certainly did in his old Ford F150; it had manual steering and he'd go so far as to shut the motor off on long hills and then roll start it as he approached the bottom. Brakes are only needed if you have to stop, of course, and we had no intention of that! Mac 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 20 hours ago, MacAR said: I've decided everyone's grandpa did that! Mine certainly did in his old Ford F150; it had manual steering and he'd go so far as to shut the motor off on long hills and then roll start it as he approached the bottom. Brakes are only needed if you have to stop, of course, and we had no intention of that! Mac Dad did that with his K-5 International truck when we'd drive to Roundup, Montana for coal in the fall. And again when we got the second load. There were long, long rolling hills north of Roundup. He's put it into neutral and coast then when it started slowing going up the next hill, he'd slip it into 4th and drop the clutch starting the old Green Diamond flathead engine again. He said it saved gas.Ā Garyš Ā Ā 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 One of these days, Roger Byrne is going to show and tell us about his latest "Ford" project. The rest of the surprise is HIS. Roger even has an IHC Truck and an IH Tractor in a Minnesota City! So he's one of us. Garyš 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Minded Farmer Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2023 at 8:16 PM, Old Binder Guy said: Mike, you are very correct about shifting Model T's The 1926 & 27 with the wide hi-lo and brake pedals are easier. But Reverse is still bad. When I prepare to back either the coupe or the truck into the shop or shed, I pull the parking brake lever back until it is tight on the parking brake. Then I move the lever ahead a couple of notches, which the parking brake lever cam is just holding the transmission in neutral. Then I only need one foot for the reverse pedal. But, like you say, those wide boots don't do this situation well when needing to back up. I did find an antique mirror for the Model TT Truck which helps me backing into the shed with it. I have two vertebras in my neck fused from birth. So it is hard for me to turn my head around. Plus the tiny little rear window in the cab is so small.Ā Garyš PS: If you look through the side window and windshield of the truck in the middle photo, there's an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm! Ford gave you a square opera window is what happened.Ā šĀ At least you can see out the back of your truck, all I could see was a green end gate in my AA. I see an H hiding in the one pic, what's the thresher in the other? I know better than to just guess by some red paint on a Hart feeder. I like the flax water bag hanging there & now wonder what happened to mine. Think they still make them. I've done lots of coasting in stick shift vehicles to save on gas & get me to the station for more, as the needle was very close to E. Though I wouldn't have done it with my AA. Going 35 - 40 on flat ground was enough of an adventure. Stopping was about the same. Those mechanical brakes might as well have been greased! The mirror you added to the TT looks good. I added one to my AA, only to find out all I can see is stake bed. It looked nice though.Ā šĀ Found a mirror through a Model A parts supplier in Milwaukee that could be adjusted in length. That worked good. I miss that supplier. It was Mail Truck Model A in Brookfield, WI (Fairly certain that his truck was featured on one of the issues of the Restorer). It wasn't 1000' down the road from where I worked at Milwaukee Electric Tool & I stopped in many times to browse through parts & rattle on about all things A. The prices were good as he was selling off a lot of older inventory that he accumulated through the years. A muffler for the AA was $38, NOS with some dents & other blemishes in them. A clean one was about $125 & the repro's weren't quite that. Provided I remembered that right. Mike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardporter1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/17/2023 at 4:03 PM, Old Binder Guy said: Dad did that with his K-5 International truck when we'd drive to Roundup, Montana for coal in the fall. And again when we got the second load. There were long, long rolling hills north of Roundup. He's put it into neutral and coast then when it started slowing going up the next hill, he'd slip it into 4th and drop the clutch starting the old Green Diamond flathead engine again. He said it saved gas.Ā Garyš Ā Ā Jewish overdrive 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said: I see an H hiding in the one pic, what's the thresher in the other? I know better than to just guess by some red paint on a Hart feeder. I like the flax water bag hanging there & now wonder what happened to mine. Think they still make them.Ā Ā Mike Mike, It's a 22 inch McCormick-Deering threshing machine in its shed berth. Fuzzy later photo with the drive belt exposed. Outside and belting up. McCormick-Deering on the elevator. Mike wetting the dry spot around the threshing area with the Farmall H. An IH Tractor on a Montana Farm. Andy Troutwine belting up the 15 hp Case to the threshing machine. The "field boss" examines the situation!š Started threshing, a Farmall MĀ IH Tractor on a Montana Farm pulls the Case water tank wagon. A little smoke. Yup! The straw is making it all the way through the machine and the grain is going into the Model TT. Randy Yaeger and Matt Eisenbacher pitching bundles into the feeder. The machine's owner, Mike Yaeger is the "Thresherman." They watch for slipping and plugs, etc. that can go wrong when threshing, just as in a combine. Randy pitching a bundle into the feeder. Finished with both wagon loads of bundles. Matt's photo. Matt Eisenbacher at the wheel of the 20 hp Reeves, disking the stubble. Desert water bag. Finished with a day's threshing in mid August.Ā Garyš 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT Matt Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Thanks for including me in your post Gary! Ā You would think a farmer wouldnāt show up at a threshing bee in shorts to pitch barley bundles! Ā Not my smartest day of farmingā¦ š. I hope you can get to have another harvest this summer, Iāll gladly feed the machine! I guess St Regis is the true Wild West. We had a hostage situation in the gift shop yesterday (he was shot but survived) and then the shooter was gunned down in the street in front of the store. He was well ventilated by the swat team. My step-brotherās wife was just feet away from what happened in the gift shop but is fine. I drove by on the street about 20 min before it happened. Crazy days we live inā¦ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/17/2023 at 4:03 PM, Old Binder Guy said: Dad did that with his K-5 International truck when we'd drive to Roundup, Montana for coal in the fall. And again when we got the second load. There were long, long rolling hills north of Roundup. He's put it into neutral and coast then when it started slowing going up the next hill, he'd slip it into 4th and drop the clutch starting the old Green Diamond flathead engine again. He said it saved gas.Ā Garyš Ā Ā My Aunts Husband had a K5 and Dad had a K6 the way i remember it neither was very fast but the K6 was more truck. He traded the K5 off in the late 50's and dad still had the K6 when he died 10 years later. The K5 Nickname was leapin Lena and the K6 was Bazoo. Both good old trucks for their day 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, MT Matt said: Thanks for including me in your post Gary! Ā You would think a farmer wouldnāt show up at a threshing bee in shorts to pitch barley bundles! Ā Not my smartest day of farmingā¦ š. I hope you can get to have another harvest this summer, Iāll gladly feed the machine! I guess St Regis is the true Wild West. We had a hostage situation in the gift shop yesterday (he was shot but survived) and then the shooter was gunned down in the street in front of the store. He was well ventilated by the swat team. My step-brotherās wife was just feet away from what happened in the gift shop but is fine. I drove by on the street about 20 min before it happened. Crazy days we live inā¦ Holy cow, Matt. Crap no... Holy Bull Matt! A hostage situation in St. Regis, Montana???? I'd have never believed it if it hadn't come from you! That'd be like a hostage situation at Eddies Corner! I wonder if the perp tested for Fentanyl? He'd take quite a chance not finding a packing citizen in the store? Do I dare stop for an ice cream cone and some fudge my next time heading that way (If I ever make it that way?) I met you there the last time I drove that way! We've had some pretty fair (emphasis on "FAIR") moisture recently. I'm sure you'll be pitching oats bundles on August 12th? You and Andy Troutwine (the owner of that St. Regis 15 hp Case that was caged there for all of those years) are permanent crew here! Maybe Roger will drive here with the IHC AutoWagon to haul grain in. Then I'd buy him an airline flight back to Racine, Minnesota. I know that if he were to do that, it'd give him a warm fuzzy feeling (like wetting his pants in a dark suit!) he'd never forget! He could care less about the AutoWagon anymore, as he's onto greener pastures with a stunning Ford project nowadays! Anyway, we'll be looking forward to seeing you (with your three tine pitchfork) on August 12th, 2023, and I'll still be 79 years old!! Garyš 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT Matt Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Hereās a link to an article about the shooting yesterday. Just a random crazy couple of idiots doing stupid stuff! https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/mar/18/hostage-shot-in-st-regis-standoff-suspect-then-kil/ I wouldnāt be too worried about our crime rate here in St Regis. Might have a better chance of a lightning strike then this happening ever again.Ā Iāll be honored to bring my 3-tine bundle fork to the show! Ā Iāve been cleaning out some sheds and found a few binder parts you and the boys may want. I have a set of canvases for a McCormick binder hanging by a wire from the rafters. Ā Iām not sure if itās for an 8ā or 10ā but you are welcome to them. Also a McCormick stamped pitman arm and a sickle. The neighbors had a binder that Dad used a couple times but unfortunately the binder sat outside for the last 25 years so the rollers are shot. And his cows have been rubbing on it so most of the parts are bent now. So Iāll be glad to bring it all with so the parts have a good home if they are useful to you.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Binder Guy Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, MT Matt said: Hereās a link to an article about the shooting yesterday. Just a random crazy couple of idiots doing stupid stuff! https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2023/mar/18/hostage-shot-in-st-regis-standoff-suspect-then-kil/ I wouldnāt be too worried about our crime rate here in St Regis. Might have a better chance of a lightning strike then this happening ever again.Ā Iāll be honored to bring my 3-tine bundle fork to the show! Ā Iāve been cleaning out some sheds and found a few binder parts you and the boys may want. I have a set of canvases for a McCormick binder hanging by a wire from the rafters. Ā Iām not sure if itās for an 8ā or 10ā but you are welcome to them. Also a McCormick stamped pitman arm and a sickle. The neighbors had a binder that Dad used a couple times but unfortunately the binder sat outside for the last 25 years so the rollers are shot. And his cows have been rubbing on it so most of the parts are bent now. So Iāll be glad to bring it all with so the parts have a good home if they are useful to you.Ā Wow, Matt, how could this "interior decorator" turn down binder aprons or a pitman? If you'd ever find someone else who would need them, I'd sure give them up. With these antique parts, helping others in need is an honorable thing to do. If they'd fit, there is a chance they'd be in better shape than the ones we're running? That is quite a story about the hostage situation at St. Regis. It stands to reason with the store being just off of the freeway. It's sure too bad his hostage got shot. Hopefully, the hostage's health is improving in Missoula. Garyš¢ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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