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9 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Thanks for the history on the cabs!!

Did IH happen to buy Chicago Cab?

Looking at the Hendrickson truck photos there are what looks to be newer cabs than the ComfoVision cab

Pretty much seems to follow the progression of IH cabs through the S series 

IH did not buy Chicago Cab or Chicago Manufacturing which I think was their actual name.  I do not know what happened to them, although as the number of truck manufacturers declined through the 50s and 60s, I'd expect they either closed down or moved on to other products.  It does seem likely that IH may have been providing cabs to some of the others by the time its use ended.  IH built their last ComfoVision cab in July, 1974, having started in 1953.

Fleetstar A and S-series cabs were sold to others as noted.

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5 hours ago, Art From Coleman said:

I believe this is one of the White/IH cabs (Florence, CO)

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That is an IH VCO-190 to 220 series.  The White 3000 while similar in general appearance is a completely different cab.  Diamond T did have a model that was the same as the IH.  I believe Diamond T designed the cab and IH purchased the design for their own production.

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3 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

I remember these

Was there one after for White?

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White did follow with another low CO in the 70s, the Trend, which never was a big seller like the 3000.  It had a fiberglass cab as I recall and was promoted as having the ability to quickly swap bodies.

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10 minutes ago, Howard_P said:

White did follow with another low CO in the 70s, the Trend, which never was a big seller like the 3000.  It had a fiberglass cab as I recall and was promoted as having the ability to quickly swap bodies.

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I have seen these around too

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7 hours ago, Howard_P said:

White did follow with another low CO in the 70s, the Trend, which never was a big seller like the 3000.  It had a fiberglass cab as I recall and was promoted as having the ability to quickly swap bodies.

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"DOUBLE DUTY PROUD BEAUTY" - Wonder if that was that translated from braille?

Mike

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18 hours ago, Absent Minded Farmer said:

"DOUBLE DUTY PROUD BEAUTY" - Wonder if that was that translated from braille?

Mike

Kinda has a “face for radio” doesn’t it? It may be heavy duty but “beauty” isn’t what comes to mind first 😊 

I know where here is a wrecker truck with that cab sitting. Always thought it was ugly bu interesting. 

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Was this style of cab a IH or Chicago Cab build? Back in the 70's when putting cotton in modules first started, most of the module hauling trucks were this style of IH cabover. Don't know of any particular reason why, just was that way. And a majority of those had a IH gas V8 and a column shift 5 speed transmission.

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3 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

Don't know of any particular reason why, just was that way. And a majority of those had a IH gas V8 and a column shift 5 speed transmission.

They must hate the drivers 

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On 7/24/2022 at 6:22 PM, jeeper61 said:

Cletrac K20 on a seeder 

Driven by reigns

Old methods die hard 

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jeeper61, that's interesting to see. I've not seen a crawler with rein steering. I have these three Fordsons with rein steering in central Montana. They all appear to be different tractors according to the rear wheels. this first one is pulling a band in a Lewistown, Montana parade. The Power Mercantile building at right was the company Grandpa worked for from 1974 through 1880, steamboating and freighting. My mother worked in this store when Grandma Yaeger put a "help wanted-morning cook & baker" card on the Powers community bulletin board. It is a good thing Mom took that job, or I may not be here to make everybody's lives miserable!??!!!

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This was preparing the rodeo arena at the Fergus County Fairgrounds near Lewistown.

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This was a rancher hauling hay near Winnett, Montana.  Gary😉

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One of my best friends, since our wives were best friends from school at Moore, was Wayne Stevenson, Hobson, Montana. This was before a Christmas dance from 1958.

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He had one of these IH trucks with this tilt cab.

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He used to haul fancy black angus to fairs all over and to the Denver Livestock Show. Sadly, a hired man murdered him and buried his body in a manure pile back in the early 1990s. To show the lack of sense in the hired man, he called Marian and said Wayne was kidnapped and he wanted a million dollars. The phone was in Stevenson's name at that hired hand house. The FBI was contacted minutes later and they had no trouble tracing that call.

At the time of his death, Wayne owned the largest herd of registered black angus cattle in the USA. This was the four of us at our home near Whitefish, Montana in the early 1990s.

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8 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

Was this style of cab a IH or Chicago Cab build? Back in the 70's when putting cotton in modules first started, most of the module hauling trucks were this style of IH cabover. Don't know of any particular reason why, just was that way. And a majority of those had a IH gas V8 and a column shift 5 speed transmission.

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The one with the wide fenders is the CO-Loadstar which had the column shift 5-speed for only a few years in the early 60s, it proved to be too troublesome.  The Cargostar with the wider cab replaced the CO-Loadstar in 1970.  The cabs were built by IH as far as I know.  I think Chicago Cab disappeared from the business around this time.

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27 minutes ago, Howard_P said:

The Cargostar with the wider cab replaced the CO-Loadstar in 1970

I think they made the Cargostar through 1984

IRC I saw a 84 listed with a 6.9 in it. 

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16 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Sad he sounded like a successful person I hope his family recovered from that  

That, if you've seen the explosives go off for an implosion, was the "chink in the armor." Then later the chips started to fall. Marian just died about three months ago of breast cancer. Their youngest son had Wayne's tenacity and did get a ranch going and is very successful. Another son was not that successful and went into the private sector as his earlier education was as an attorney. Gary🤨

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Flying over the 'net and l saw this pickup, a custom built Seagrave. Pretty sharp looking 'ol truck l think. Apparently it belongs to "Sammy"....

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Son Mike sent me an email with these photos of a Farmall A a Montana National Guard friend restored. I believe he passed away, (EDIT: he was recently killed in a 4-wheeler accident.) because the email I got was sent to Mike from his son. It's always been in their family, apparently, because the original bill of sale said something like, "$200 and two horses" when his dad bought it for his mother!

The son is wanting to know its value. He's wanting to sell it. I'm sort of in the dark. (Knowing Joe, like I did, it is restored, not "fixed up" and painted.) But I do know this Farmall A has been a point of envy for a lot of people in and around Helena for some time now. 

I know nothing about it personally other than the time I saw it, it looked great. Gary😉

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On 7/26/2022 at 7:36 PM, jeeper61 said:

Another rein controlled machine

2 ton CAT  

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A 1918 Model D Samson Iron Horse 4X4 rein steered.

I think Anson would really enjoy a rein steered tractor, except it wouldn't have the same "exhaust" he likes. Gary😉

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I figured I'd better post some photos. I've been pretty laxed lately. And, I don't know anything. Just things from Facebook, etc.

I thought this was interesting of two Harley Davidson motorcyclists travelling with their bikes and camping out.

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I've always liked Harleys. I had a 1945 Army "45" and a 1953 "74." (Emphasis on past tense) I took this photo of Lewistown, Montana's onetime favorite machine shop owner operator, the late Bob Fabian. I took this photo of him when I was in Lewistown for one of their steam shows several years ago. I watched him gather pieces for building this over the years I lived there. It was so great to see the finished product.

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And a memory of my visit with Roger. Only we didn't ford any creeks or rivers. A 1914 Model T Ford Touring Car like Rogers.

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During WWI, this bus was used in Europe as a "homing pigeon" station. The pigeons carried messages, for the lack of two way radios then.

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I just got this off of Facebook a couple of days ago. A photo of a 22 hp undermounted Avery "Montana Special" steam engine on the belt.

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A 20 hp Reeves cross compound is moving this store.

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Header and Barge harvesting of loose ripe grain, taken to the threshing machine and pitched in loose. Less work than binding and shocking bundles, but there may have been some more "shatter" loss this way? I don't know?

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Another photo of the McCormick header (is that a woman running it?) loading loose grain into the barge.

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The same farm's threshing outfit. The cook car, (Northwest Thresher Co.??) threshing machine with wing feeders and their straw burner Northwest steam engine. There was likely a lot of pride in taking a photo like this?

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I've had a lot of Rumely items pop up on Facebook. I'm hoping Roger can tell what size of Rumely steam engine this is. Without seeing the front end, I can't hardly tell a 30 from a 36 horsepower? The 36 has a larger diameter boiler barrel. But camera angle can play a big part in their differences too.

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The same Rumely engine with the straw stack and the Rumely Ideal threshing machine in this photo.

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I think this is a later straw burner Rumely 25 hp single cylinder engine, I think but it could also be a 30 hp? I never thought much of this design's appearance, but I'd bet it was a good engine.

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This is a good size Rumely single cylinder engine too. It's an earlier engine. I'm thinking it may have been a 30 hp with the rectangular water tanks?

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I wouldn't bet the farm, but this has to be a 25 hp Rumely double cylinder engine pulling a Rumely Ideal threshing machine? The 25 used an oval shaped water tanks on the sides,

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I'm pretty sure this is a 12 hp M. Rumely engine. The 12 and 15 hp look a lot alike, but their rear wheels were narrower on the 12 hp.

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Mike's former classmate and my young steam friend, David Vanek Jr. is threshing at Lewistown with his 15 hp M. Rumely engine.

 

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A Rumely Oilpull tractor is posing with a McCormick WD9 Standard tractor.

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This is a late model Rumely Oilpull posing with this big Russell (25 hp??) steam engine.

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One of those "Oh, shucks!" days, likely in the Palouse country.

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I had to put this photo of our engines on. It's been in the 90° temps, but they're going to be even hotter tomorrow.

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This was Mike a couple of years ago when he was having problems mowing hay with the McCormick-Deering Farmall F-12, due to crud in the gas tank. There became a seep too, so he took the tank off and used that gas tank liquid liner that hardens hard. It cured the problem. He called this morning. He was changing oil in it and wanted to know if I had a stash of those gasket rubber rings that seal the outer filter case to the engine frame. I told him I didn't have any. All we have are NAPA filters and they didn't furnish a gasket like IH did. The F-12, Farmalls H and M of ours, all take the same gasket. The earlier M's took the fat filter. I think it was 376376R91 if I remember from my partsman days. I can't remember the IH number for our present filters though. But I'll be some former IH partsman out there will know? 

PS: this IS an IH Tractor on a Montana Farm!

Since Mike removed the filter AND the gasket, he had to run to town for one and some extras. Gary😉

 

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23 minutes ago, Art From Coleman said:

The man on the right looks, at least to my bi-focaled eyes, like Steve McQueen:

 

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On the set of "The Great Escape"?

Art, That same remark was made on Facebook, that the guy on the right looked like Steve McQueen. Gary😉

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