IH Tractors on Montana Farm

[MT Matt]

Now come on Tom, a full year to trip the odometer to 1000 pages???  There is so much Blue Smoke around here about watermelons, polka dot vs. striped hats and gold coins flipped from the rich Montana soil that it could heat the steam in Gary’s Case or Reeves engines!!!  🤣🤣  

And don’t forget the continual education of the masses about IH tractors on Montana farms!  I would venture a Christmas miracle to be in order and that count be reached before the New Year 2023!!!  😎

[Old Binder Guy]

12 hours ago, MT Matt said:

Now come on Tom, a full year to trip the odometer to 1000 pages???  There is so much Blue Smoke around here about watermelons, polka dot vs. striped hats and gold coins flipped from the rich Montana soil that it could heat the steam in Gary’s Case or Reeves engines!!!  🤣🤣  

And don’t forget the continual education of the masses about IH tractors on Montana farms!  I would venture a Christmas miracle to be in order and that count be reached before the New Year 2023!!!  😎

Matt, I'm going to pick the broad area between your estimate of January 1, 2023 and Tom's estimate of November 5, 2023. That looks like a safe bet for me!  I'm not much of a "betting person!" I might win the Billion Dollar Jackpot though. Or do you have to buy a ticket?? Maybe that's the reason I've never won any kind of a jackpot? On second thought I think I won a piece of cherry cheese cake at a bingo fest once though. Other than that, I've proven here on this thread, that I never win anything. I can't even win an argument.  Gary😁

My first car I've owned for 59-1/3 years was put away for the winter. The 1926 Model T Coupe spends winters beside Mike's 1957 Chevy Belair.

We cleaned up the shop in lots of places yesterday. I had to take a selfie of the main bay in the shop, without the Model T there anymore. (Speaking of not being able to win an argument, notice my cap!)

[jeeper61]

Ran Across this one on FB never seen one before 

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad - Strong Maine Station c. 1930 -

A railbus and a traditional steam locomotive train 

 

[twostepn2001]

Since the talk a few days ago about different sized Cats, l found this earlier on FB. Cat is re-numbering the different sizes. Actually sounds kind of confusing compared to the old way of designating the sizes of the dozers.

https://ironpros.com/en-us/a/B635679D2A7B6A31F8FA5B4E9C5B7544/how-cat-restructured-its-dozer-lineup-with-new-names

1 hour ago, jeeper61 said:

A railbus and a traditional steam locomotive train

That railbus gives a whole new meaning to the term "crew cab"...  🙂

[Old Binder Guy]

7 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Ran Across this one on FB never seen one before 

Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes Railroad - Strong Maine Station c. 1930 -

A railbus and a traditional steam locomotive train 

 

I guess I'll show you how to build a clock, since you "asked what time it was," jeeper61!

I remember variations of these "rail bus" vehicles passing by our ranch on the the Milwaukee Railroad. That bus you posted it big. A loose nickname term for these rail vehicles is "Gallopin' Goose!" This is a shorter Rio Grande RR Gallopin' Goose photographed on a trestle. This one is similar to what we had in Montana.

This is the same railroad's Gallopin' Goose. It could be the same one too.

To show you how "loose" the term "Gallopin' Goose" is, that was the name of this train in the Flathead Valley in Montana. It ran from Whitefish to Columbia Falls, south to Kalispell and farther south to Somers, Montana.  

This was an earlier steam locomotive on that same route dubbed the "teakettle" Gallopin' Goose at Somers, Montana on the north end of Flathead Lake. It took touring guests from Whitefish, Columbia Falls, and Kalispell to Somers, Montana. Guests could then take a steamboat Rollins or Polson for noontime dinner, back to Somers and home on a Sunday. They used this dock rail system as part of their turn around Wye. I was told by old GNRY retirees that one time the engineer had left the Johnson bar in reverse after backing onto this rail dock. It may have been the fireman or someone else who wasn't supposed to be in the engineers seat, but they opened the throttle some on the engine. One car fell in, then another, then another and finally the locomotive went to somewhat shallow bottom too.

This is a Gallopin' Goose train wreck near LaSalle on the Columbia Falls to Kalispell tracks.
 

This port is at Polson on Flathead Lake. The steamboat Klondike is shown here as one of the means of transportation from those three ports on the lake. I sure didn't know that there were "float planes" this early! I wouldn't have thought these early biplanes wouldn't have had the "snoose" to get to lift off speed? The Wright Brother's aircraft was the first "Hydroaeroplane" in Montana in 1913.

The Steamboat Klondike close up at Dayton. 

Another steamboat, the Montana had docks in Dayton, Rollins, Somers and surely Polson. There were fine eating establishments in Polson, Montana.

Pretty self explanatory, I guess.

A steam powered lumber mill at Polson on the Flathead Lake.

They obviously had an IHC tractor dealership somewhere in that vicinity, according to this Type C IHC Mogul. 

They even had "bus service" to other land based towns.

They obviously had a Ford dealership there in Polson. These are 1916 Model T's except for the stranger on the right. It may be a Hupmobile?

These are later boats at Somers, Montana for hauling tourists on the waters.

A more modern photograph of the Polson area looking at the Mission Mountain Range and Flathead Lake. Flathead is the largest body of fresh water west of the Mississippi River in the USA.

When we lived in the Flathead Valley and I was working for Whitefish Schools, I did some snooping of engines occasionally. I couldn't afford a new Dodge Diesel Pickup for the owner of this 25 hp Aultman-Taylor engine.

I did "kick the tires" on this 75 hp Case Montana Special (i.e. 36" width driver wheels. And it was tagged that way, Roger!) at Polson. A friend in Iowa had already pretty much made the deal on it. 

And if any of you out of state guys ever have reason to travel in the Flathead Valley of Montana and would be going past Polson, DON'T miss the Miracle Of America Museum there. A national magazine article termed the museum, "The Smithsonian Of The West!" My friend Gil Mangles shown on one of his many antique motorcycles, this one an Indian, built this stunning facility in his lifetime. Allow plenty of time, as it is quite large. If you are not a patriotic person, you may want to keep driving right on past his museum.

Gil ended up with one of the two "Fireless" steam locomotives that were used inside the creosote plant at the Somers GNRY "Railroad Tie Plant." 

Gil has this 20 hp M. Rumely double cylinder steam engine. I believe he operates this one at the museum with a large industrial air compressor?

Gil has these Aultman-Taylor and Frick steam engines too.

Gil has this Model TT "mailman's snowmobile" and I could have used it today!

This was my pickup this morning here in Tropical Helena, Montana.

This is my photo of the Yaeger Brother's Model TT Ford dump box truck, with Uncle Audie. Gil has one, but I can't find a photo of it. I thought I had one. But you get the idea.

Gil has his magnificent welding and machine shop nearby the museum, which has paid his bills. Consequently since he is the "mechanical type" he has a marvelous blacksmith shop area.

Gil obviously has much equipment for a Wheelwright too.

And finally, this photo of my dad's forge bellows that I donated to the Miracle Of America Museum years ago. "Donated In Memory Of Joe Yaeger" my blacksmith dad!  Gary😉

[jeeper61]

1 hour ago, Old Binder Guy said:

Gil ended up with one of the two "Fireless" steam locomotives that were used inside the creosote plant at the Somers GNRY "Railroad Tie Plant." 

Great Stuff thx for sharing the scenery of the Flathead Lake area is gorgeous 

Explain the "Fireless" steam locomotives please 

[Tubacase47]

Back to your first post on page 976, Gary.  That could be me in the tuba but it would make me at least  100 years old.  The horn is a dead  ringer for my King BBb that I bought for $50.00 in 1970.

[Old Binder Guy]

3 hours ago, jeeper61 said:

Great Stuff thx for sharing the scenery of the Flathead Lake area is gorgeous 

Explain the "Fireless" steam locomotives please 

jeeper61, I've climbed over both of the fireless locomotives they used inside the creosote area of the GNRY railroad tie plant at Somers, Montana. When GNRY shifted to concrete ties, the plant closed and equipment was sold off. The other smaller fireless locomotive is near Kalispell, Montana, or it was the last time I was through there. 

There was a "mother steam boiler" outside that made steam. These engines "boiler" (water tank that was built to take high pressure) was filled to some level (unknown to me) with water. It was transferred to these fireless locomotives in a "Siamese connection" that heated the water which somehow generated its own steam for a while, until it needed hooked up to the boiler again for a fresh charge of steam. The creosote area could be "explosive" with fire inside at times, so these engines were used for that purpose. It blew my mind hearing how long these fireless engines could operate on a charge of steam, and I can't remember the exact time, but it seems like it was nearly 6 hours. I was told that the hot water somehow helped the steam generate more. 

I'm sorry I can't explain it anymore than that, jeeper61. If someone else here knows further information, I'd love to learn it here too! I'd not be offended at all if someone really expounded on this subject. Gary😉

[twostepn2001]

Here while back l posted some pics of different style trucks, like a twin V-8  engined Ford and some others. Just happened to be taking stroll through the internet and found this pic of a 1939 Oldsmobile truck. Article said it was a re-badged GMC but powered by a Olds 6 cylinder engine. GMC trucks of that time period were also powered by Olds engines. Article said the reason GM quit building Olds trucks after 1939 was because they already had two other truck divisions that were almost identical. (GMC, Chevrolet)

[Old Binder Guy]

3 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

Here while back l posted some pics of different style trucks, like a twin V-8  engined Ford and some others. Just happened to be taking stroll through the internet and found this pic of a 1939 Oldsmobile truck. Article said it was a re-badged GMC but powered by a Olds 6 cylinder engine. GMC trucks of that time period were also powered by Olds engines. Article said the reason GM quit building Olds trucks after 1939 was because they already had two other truck divisions that were almost identical. (GMC, Chevrolet)

 

twostepn2001, I knew Oldsmobile built trucks in the teens, but I sure never knew they built them up until 1939! Thank you for posting it.

This puts the steering on the correct side!

Here's a 1920 Oldsmobile truck in a museum.

I have several pieces of original literature about Oldsmobile trucks.

 

This is the most famous Oldsmobile "Truck" out there. But it's not really a truck. It's a "chopped touring car." They removed the rear seat and put a box back there. 

That was a very common practice in the olden days before commercial pickups were available. This is a Chevrolet chopped touring car. They must be driving to town to find another tire?

And this is a 1913 Model T Ford chopped touring car.

As a matter of fact, my brother and I had a 1913 Model T chopped touring car. When my brother was part owner and News Director of KXLO Radio station in Lewistown, he had me bring it to Lewistown for a fair parade. I parked at KXLO and he took this photo of it.

(Edit: I just noticed a house up on the hill underneath the Model T top... That house was Johnny Bourke's home at that time. (Bourke Motor & Implement Co. that I worked for years later. John later sold this house and bought a place up Spring Creek.)

(Edit II: this very night of the Fair parade, they had another parade of old cars that were in the parade. I finally got to light the carbide (PrestoLite) headlights and kerosene side and tail lamps to drive in that parade!) 

Henry Ford is given credit for building the first commercially available "pickup." In 1925, he offered this pickup box to be interchangeable with the "turtle deck" or "trunk" of a Model T Roadster.

The pickup could be converted back to a roadster car with about four bolts. (Maybe more?)

Now while Henry Ford was treated with all of the glamour of producing the first commercial "pickup," it's almost bordering on blasphemy! International Harvester Company produced their first commercial "truck" (more of a pickup?) in 1907.

Our very own Roger Byrne even has this 1912 IHC AutoWagon he's giving DeeAnn a ride in, and if that isn't a "pickup box" I'll eat my hat! (Not literally!)

And the beauty of Roger's AutoWagon is, it can be turned into a "touring car" by dropping in the seat that came with it. When Roger (actually, I'll be dealing with DeeAnn) finally wills me this AutoWagon, I want the seat with it. Even if it doesn't come with a load of watermelons.

And International Harvester was building automobiles at that time too. This is a ca. 1908 IHC AutoBuggy here in Helena, Montana a few years back.

I just recently found this "Hardtail" Harley Davidson tie clasp I bought back in 1957 or 58, when I had my Harley 74. I had to pose it and take a picture for our Hardtail!

My 1953 Harley Davidson 74 "hardtail" motorcycle.

And I couldn't resist putting this on here. I've had it on my Facebook page, after borrowing it from someone there. But I'll bet some of you guys can relate?  Gary🙃😉😁

 

 

[Owen Aaland]

The fireless locomotives worked by being filled with super heated water, above 212°.

At about 425°F the pressure will be about 300 psi. As long as the temperature is maintained the pressure will remain until all the water is boiled off to steam.

 

 

[TN Hillbilly]

4 hours ago, Old Binder Guy said:

 

twostepn2001, I knew Oldsmobile built trucks in the teens, but I sure never knew they built them up until 1939! Thank you for posting it.

This puts the steering on the correct side!

Here's a 1920 Oldsmobile truck in a museum.

I have several pieces of original literature about Oldsmobile trucks.

 

This is the most famous Oldsmobile "Truck" out there. But it's not really a truck. It's a "chopped touring car." They removed the rear seat and put a box back there. 

That was a very common practice in the olden days before commercial pickups were available. This is a Chevrolet chopped touring car. They must be driving to town to find another tire?

And this is a 1913 Model T Ford chopped touring car.

As a matter of fact, my brother and I had a 1913 Model T chopped touring car. When my brother was part owner and News Director of KXLO Radio station in Lewistown, he had me bring it to Lewistown for a fair parade. I parked at KXLO and he took this photo of it.

(Edit: I just noticed a house up on the hill underneath the Model T top... That house was Johnny Bourke's home at that time. (Bourke Motor & Implement Co. that I worked for years later. John later sold this house and bought a place up Spring Creek.)

(Edit II: this very night of the Fair parade, they had another parade of old cars that were in the parade. I finally got to light the carbide (PrestoLite) headlights and kerosene side and tail lamps to drive in that parade!) 

Henry Ford is given credit for building the first commercially available "pickup." In 1925, he offered this pickup box to be interchangeable with the "turtle deck" or "trunk" of a Model T Roadster.

The pickup could be converted back to a roadster car with about four bolts. (Maybe more?)

Now while Henry Ford was treated with all of the glamour of producing the first commercial "pickup," it's almost bordering on blasphemy! International Harvester Company produced their first commercial "truck" (more of a pickup?) in 1907.

Our very own Roger Byrne even has this 1912 IHC AutoWagon he's giving DeeAnn a ride in, and if that isn't a "pickup box" I'll eat my hat! (Not literally!)

And the beauty of Roger's AutoWagon is, it can be turned into a "touring car" by dropping in the seat that came with it. When Roger (actually, I'll be dealing with DeeAnn) finally wills me this AutoWagon, I want the seat with it. Even if it doesn't come with a load of watermelons.

And International Harvester was building automobiles at that time too. This is a ca. 1908 IHC AutoBuggy here in Helena, Montana a few years back.

I just recently found this "Hardtail" Harley Davidson tie clasp I bought back in 1957 or 58, when I had my Harley 74. I had to pose it and take a picture for our Hardtail!

My 1953 Harley Davidson 74 "hardtail" motorcycle.

And I couldn't resist putting this on here. I've had it on my Facebook page, after borrowing it from someone there. But I'll bet some of you guys can relate?  Gary🙃😉😁

 

 

Obvious - no compression!

[Old Binder Guy]

3 hours ago, Owen Aaland said:

The fireless locomotives worked by being filled with super heated water, above 212°.

At about 425°F the pressure will be about 300 psi. As long as the temperature is maintained the pressure will remain until all the water is boiled off to steam.

 

 

Thank you Owen. I've not been around those two engines for about 40 years. Since I can't remember what I had for breakfast or what I did yesterday, I'm having trouble remembering this info too. Thank you for priming my Brane! Gary🙃

[twostepn2001]

Boy, now l am confused!! pokey dot and stripedy... and now solid yeller!!  At what horsepower or size of engine do you graduate from the yeller hat to the pokey dot or stripedy hats???  Or is that a foreign thing?

 

[Howard_P]

A little history on the Autowagon/Autobuggy models.  IH introduced the Autobuggy in 1907.  It was distinctly different than an Autowagon which can be seen if you compare the pictures of them above.  The Autobuggy had no box or any sort or cargo space, only a rear seat for passengers with the sides open for easy entry.  The Autowagon was introduced in 1909 with a cargo box in the back and would be the first truck.  A second seat could be installed in the box, but that did make it an Autobuggy although it served a similar purpose.  Autobuggy production continued for a year or two after the Autowagon appeared.

All this is confused by the 40 Year display pictured above which has a 1909 Autowagon labeled as a 1907.  I'm sure that was put together by some marketing types who didn't know the difference and if they did, figured no one at that time would know the difference.

[Old Binder Guy]

10 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

Boy, now l am confused!! pokey dot and stripedy... and now solid yeller!!  At what horsepower or size of engine do you graduate from the yeller hat to the pokey dot or stripedy hats???  Or is that a foreign thing?

 

That is a European engine, so I'd bet they hadn't heard about the Kromer Kloth Kap with polka dots yet? I don't know about their steam locomotive engineers? Whether they wear the striped caps the American steam locomotive engineers used to wear or not? I doubt the European traction engines wear poky dots in yellow or not? Maybe they do, as I found this yellow polka dot cap on the internet.

But the real revealing thing was this history for red polka dot caps for steam locomotive engineers.

I guess those stripped ones don't belong anywhere. But those who run steam locomotives and wear them, that's okay. I'm sure Roger doesn't have a red polka dot cap to wear when operating steam locomotives? 

So we should give him a pass. Don't you think? Gary😉

 

 

 

[Old Binder Guy]

On 11/9/2022 at 8:14 PM, Howard_P said:

A little history on the Autowagon/Autobuggy models.  IH introduced the Autobuggy in 1907.  It was distinctly different than an Autowagon which can be seen if you compare the pictures of them above.  The Autobuggy had no box or any sort or cargo space, only a rear seat for passengers with the sides open for easy entry.  The Autowagon was introduced in 1909 with a cargo box in the back and would be the first truck.  A second seat could be installed in the box, but that did make it an Autobuggy although it served a similar purpose.  Autobuggy production continued for a year or two after the Autowagon appeared.

All this is confused by the 40 Year display pictured above which has a 1909 Autowagon labeled as a 1907.  I'm sure that was put together by some marketing types who didn't know the difference and if they did, figured no one at that time would know the difference.

Howard_P, This must be one of the last styles of AutoBuggy that IHC built? With that gas tank cover behind what might look like a radiator, but isn't. A friend took these photos of me in his AutoBuggy.  Gary😉

[Old Binder Guy]

Just a bunch of my photos I'm putting on for our remembrance of Veteran's Day. When I was younger, it was termed Armistice Day, for the end of WWI. It was later decided that it should be to honor EVERY American Veteran. So I thank each and every one of you Veterans for your service to America and the rest of the world we've gone to help liberate from tyranny. Most of this junk at first is WWI. 

This is a 25 hp Reeves cross compound Canadian Special engine pulling Bath and Laundry equipment for soldiers during WWI

This is a 25 hp Advance Rumely Universal offering the same services as above.

America's first tank. The Spirit Of America, a steam powered tank. It could burn crankcase draining's for the fire. I'd hate to be it's "water monkey" on the battlefield though.

Maybe motor pool soldiers with their 75 hp Holt Caterpillars.

A 75 holt is pulling a massive cannon in this broken glass plate negative photo in France.

A 75 Holt Caterpillar pulls a huge cannon in Europe during WWI

Another one pulling a huge cannon in Europe.

Pulling supply wagons with a 120 Holt crawler.

A 120 Holt in trouble in France. It seems to be abandoned. Just like with a modern tractor in America, they'll try to do something they shouldn't have, as it won't do it? Maybe it just ran out of gas?

I don't know if Henry Ford produced any of these for the US Army or whether this is as far as the test went?

A 5-Ton Holt in Europe. Neat (likely?) 1917 Model T Ford Town Car at right.

A 10-Ton Holt in Europe.

Five Ton Holts pulling troops to (or from?) the battle trenches.

A Model T Ford of European manufacture rail cars hauling cannon bullets in France.

WWI troops in a trench.

A WWI poster for in America.

A couple of "tree Stump" outlooks and snipers on the battlefield.

A Mack truck hauls a small tank in Europe.

Rifle training with the Browning Automatic Rifle. I used to pack one of them. They were fun to shoot, but with the bipod and a loaded magazine, they weighed 16 pounds. That got old. But they were one heck of a weapon.

A European steam engine is in a "Oopsie" spot too. Another engine is fixin' to pull him out.

A WWI Allis Chalmers "Half Track."

And even the 40-80 Avery farm tractors got in on the action in Europe.

A WWI Trench Dagger with a triangular shaped blade, that I used to own.

My uncle George Yaeger (right) is shown at Fort Lewis, Washington with two other trainees. I see they were issued Krag-Jorganson 30-40 caliber rifles.

This old Doughboy has been claimed to have some of my family genes.

Montana's Jeanette Rankin is the only U.S. House of Representatives member to cast a dissenting vote on BOTH WWI AND WWII. She's considered a hero by some here in Montana. Especially women! (no comment)

A 3-Ton U.S. tank

An opened driver's hatch on a 3-Ton tank.

The driver's hatch closed on the 3-Ton Tank.

Two Model T Ford automobile engines were the power plants for the 3-Ton U.S. Tank.

I took this photo of my bunk mate David Plovanic (also a Lewistownite) on a Sunday afternoon at Fort Knox, Kentucky's Patton Museum of mostly armor. I understand this old wooden structure was replaced with a more modern museum. They also have the sedan that Patton was killed in, inside.

A WWI JNI "Jenny" biplane with its mounted gun and its OX-5 V-8 water cooled engine, getting fueled by a Model TT Ford fuel truck.

I took this at the Helena Airport of their WWI OX-5 V-8 water cooled aircraft engine used in many planes, but the WWI Jenny was their source, from WWI.

I have an antique photo somewhere I couldn't bring up, of one of these Model T Ford aircraft engine starting vehicles. But, you get the idea!

I had to edit and place this P-38 Lightening here. They helped even the field in the skies some, with the P-51 and others that could catch German aircraft and be devastating to them. My wife's uncle (Captain at that time) Wayne Simpson was given a commendation from his commander. The wing cameras picked up his strafing a German ammunition supply train from the rear and firing on it. He did a "U" and returned, firing the cannon and punching a hole in the boiler of the locomotive, steam spewing out. He also flew the Martin Marauder. He told me, "They were both 'hot rods' airplanes!"

1st LT (later Captain) Audie Murphy, the Greatest Generation's most decorated soldier, WWII. I loved his movie acting as well, after the war.

General Dwight D. Eisenhower eats lunch in Korea with US troops during the Korean War. I hope that guy at the right doesn't "barf" in front of Ike.

Vietnam still haunts me. Those guys (you guys) weren't appreciated for their service to America or Vietnam. My heart goes out to those Veterans and the poor welcome home they got. (I could say a lot more, but I don't want to get shut down on Red Power.)

President Lynden B. Johnson's wife, Lady Bird Johnson's family owned the Bell Helicopter Corporation, and built the Huey UH1 and other variants used in Vietnam. Those pilots had guts!

Son Mike, LTC in Afghanistan 2008.

Grandson Maverik at right at Basra, Iraq.

I think a lot of us know what this old girl is! Maw Deuce Browning M-2, .50 caliber machine gun. 

Again, my deepest heartfelt thanks to each one of you veterans whether you sat at a typewriter, drove a jeep, flew or crewed a helicopter, a jet aircraft or were on the front lines of battle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.  Old Binder Guy or Gary

[jeeper61]

I think this fits Veteran's Day some of our first Veterans hung here 

It's still standing and is Tavern Museum now pretty much unchanged for 250 years 

I drive by it all the time and have toured it a few times 

Burnham Tavern in Machias, Maine was built in 1770, and is seen here in 1937 and 2015. In 1775 local militiamen gathered here to plan one of the first naval battles of the American Revolution, which occurred nearby on June 11-12, 1775. The locals were victorious and they captured a British ship which became the first ship in the Massachusetts Navy. Historic image courtesy of the Library of Congress.

https://lostnewengland.com/2015/12/burnham-tavern-machias-maine-1/

[Howard_P]

On 11/10/2022 at 1:46 AM, Old Binder Guy said:

That is a European engine, so I'd bet they hadn't heard about the Kromer Kloth Kap with polka dots yet? I don't know about their steam locomotive engineers? Whether they wear the striped caps the American steam locomotive engineers used to wear or not? I doubt the European traction engines wear poky dots in yellow or not? Maybe they do, as I found this yellow polka dot cap on the internet.

 

 

 

I searched for "British Train Driver Hats" (they aren't called engineers in most other countries--and that really bothers US engineers on FB) and found numerous varities, many similar to uniform caps like this one

. 

 

I'm not sure if there was a "standard" hat there, although the striped denim wasn't the only one you see in old photos over here, just the most common.

[MT Matt]

Thank you Gary for the great timeline of American war history. 

My great grandfather fought in WWI

My grandfather was captured and wounded in WWII

Had uncles in Korea and Vietnam. 

My father served 29 years in the military, retiring from the Montana National Guard. I’m sure he met your brother in the Montana National Guard. 

I followed my father and enlisted in the Montana NG as an engineer, ultimately moved to Missouri and spent 22 years in, going to Iraq and Afghanistan.

My most memorable moment was walking into the Bangor, Maine airport and being greeted by civilians after returning from Iraq.  This was a very proud moment to be welcomed home and appreciated. It will never be forgotten. 

To all those Veterans who were never welcomed home, Thank You!  Your service was just as important as any other service member’s.

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[Old Binder Guy]

On 11/11/2022 at 8:31 PM, MT Matt said:

Thank you Gary for the great timeline of American war history. 

My great grandfather fought in WWI

My grandfather was captured and wounded in WWII

Had uncles in Korea and Vietnam. 

My father served 29 years in the military, retiring from the Montana National Guard. I’m sure he met your brother in the Montana National Guard. 

I followed my father and enlisted in the Montana NG as an engineer, ultimately moved to Missouri and spent 22 years in, going to Iraq and Afghanistan.

My most memorable moment was walking into the Bangor, Maine airport and being greeted by civilians after returning from Iraq.  This was a very proud moment to be welcomed home and appreciated. It will never be forgotten. 

To all those Veterans who were never welcomed home, Thank You!  Your service was just as important as any other service member’s.

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

MT Matt, Your family has a rich history of military service too. Thank YOU for your service.

I'm quite sure your dad met my brother? Bill was in 37 years and ended up and Assistant Adjutant General of Montana. And, I'd bet he crossed paths with Mike too? After Mike's three years in the US Army as a Huey and OH58 helicopter crew chief, he joined the Montana Army National Guard, came home to Missoula for four years, for his degree and attend ROTC, earning his Lieutenant bars. He was was a platoon leader in the Missoula NG unit and had the top tank unit in Montana while in that outfit. Then he wanted full time and applied for a position at Fort Harrison near Helena. Mike finished out his 39 years there, just retiring this past spring. 

This was Colonel Bill who swore Mike in under oath, and Randy helped Sharon Pin on his bars.  

Afterward, Bill, Randy, and Kirby Underdahl pose for the camera. SFC, Kirby gave Mike his first salute. Mike gave Kirby a silver dollar; as per tradition. PS: In haste Kirby had to borrow the shirt from one of his people.

Randy as a Montana Highway Patrol officer, Mike, Mike's wife Pam and brother Bill. I forget the special occasion it was at Mike's warehouse he operated early in his Fort Harrison career, before going to the CSMS shop. I'm sure those flower petals at his feet have a distinct meaning! Gary😉

  

[twostepn2001]

A little late for Halloween but just in time for those late night snacks at Thanksgiving and Christmas.  You could be in the mood for some Kosher dill candy corn.

Or maybe a Reese's peanut butter cup with dill pickle flavor. Yum!! Yum!!

Or how about some plain 'ol avocado ice cream?? 

Maybe if avocado isn't quite your thing, you might try some Lemon and Anchovy ice cream. Just all kinds of goodies to brighten your holidays with!!

 

[Old Binder Guy]

21 hours ago, twostepn2001 said:

A little late for Halloween but just in time for those late night snacks at Thanksgiving and Christmas.  You could be in the mood for some Kosher dill candy corn.

Or maybe a Reese's peanut butter cup with dill pickle flavor. Yum!! Yum!!

Or how about some plain 'ol avocado ice cream?? 

Maybe if avocado isn't quite your thing, you might try some Lemon and Anchovy ice cream. Just all kinds of goodies to brighten your holidays with!!

 

I eat avocado and anchovies, but someone else can have my dill pickles. I'll eat them, but I sure don't crave dill pickles like my wife does. Would anyone eat any of the foods above, or are they reserved for pregnant women?  Gary🙃

[twostepn2001]

1 hour ago, Old Binder Guy said:

I eat avocado and anchovies

l like avocados sometimes sliced in a salad but really like guacamole. And l like anchovy pizza, but the anchovy and lemon ice cream sounds like something l wouldn't eat at all. l love dill pickle slices on a hamburger or a BBQ brisket sandwich but pickle flavored candies does not appeal to me.   lol